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picky747 20th November 2009 17:47

75/ZT double din arrived and installed
 
UPDATE:STILL WAITING FOR TMC RDS CONFIRMATION.


The unit finally arrived at 10.30 this morning so I've done a few shots before and after the install.Just a few points to mention,I pods are only supported via the front mounted usb connector,radio is not RDS enabled,SD cards used are micro SD(the kind that are used in mobile phones.The bluetooth works fine and also streaming music off your phone via A2DP which is very good quality.It does not come with a tv arial so I've not tried that function out yet,just waiting to buy a DVB-T box off ebay.Sat-nav works fine(it does come with an arial which I placed on the dash)and you can listen to other sources whilst it is working.The install was basically plug and play with the connectors that came with it.Steering wheel control works without any adaptors and you can map each control to different functions but I've stuck with the default(vol+ vol-,skip+ skip-, mode).
Sound wise,,very good lots of bass if you want it and can be boosted with the loudness control.I'll let you lot look at the pics now and if you have any questions I'll try my best...........Oh and it looks ****** luvly.:)
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Purchased mine from HERE.

Kandyman 20th November 2009 18:09

Now that looks very nice.

Lucky75owner 20th November 2009 18:16

Wow Picky it looks great:drool4::drool4::drool4::drool4:

So it was no hard job to get it in your car?

picky747 20th November 2009 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky75owner (Post 419969)

So it was no hard job to get it in your car?

Plug and play.Eyebrow off and two screws.Got to redo it tomorrow ,I just threw it in for the pictures.

Thomas 20th November 2009 19:01

And if you dont mind me asking........how much ?

Lucky75owner 20th November 2009 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 419983)
Plug and play.Eyebrow off and two screws.Got to redo it tomorrow ,I just threw it in for the pictures.



I want one:drool4:

David Lawrence 20th November 2009 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kandyman (Post 419963)
Now that looks very nice.


It looks a perfect match to the car

Where does the SD Card go? And is the USB only on the front or is there one on the back so you can hide away a USB memory stick somewhere?

picky747 20th November 2009 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lawrence (Post 420009)
It looks a perfect match to the car

Where does the SD Card go? And is the USB only on the front or is there one on the back so you can hide away a USB memory stick somewhere?

The SD card goes in the front under the mute and loud buttons(they are covers that hinge open)No usb on the back.SD cards are MicroSD like the ones used in mobile phones.
Total cost up to now is £279 ,but I could get a letter from customs in a couple of weeks ,it just depends if they pulled it or not.

Rover418275 20th November 2009 20:21

I like the way the illumination matches the OEM dash. Looks very good.:)

trebor 20th November 2009 20:31

very impressive and not only does it look good but an easy install with no cage to make, just fits straight in

AURORA MG 20th November 2009 20:34

That looks really smart probably better than the B*W unit to be honest & touch screen too - love it.

Alex30013k 20th November 2009 20:35

What about connecting an ipod? can you buy an lead?

sworks 20th November 2009 20:36

love the look of that

phenonix 20th November 2009 20:44

So how did you get it for that price?
In contact with Suav and they quote a high price $588 US = 356 GBP
How could i pursue that deal?

MN190 20th November 2009 20:49

looks very good
Hows the sat nav?
Can you get TMC warnings and Postcode entry

picky747 20th November 2009 21:25

This was not bought from SUAV that is why it is cheaper ,link to manufacturer is in first post under the last picture.Ipod.....doesn't look like there is a way to connect it on the back,just the usb socket on the front.No TMC as the hardware is not there and you can use any nav software mine came with igo8 and it works fine.

phenonix 20th November 2009 21:38

have they had any luck changing it to the Rover opening screen?
instead of the MG?

picky747 20th November 2009 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenonix (Post 420087)
have they had any luck changing it to the Rover opening screen?
instead of the MG?

No,they never sent the file,but you don't get the MG splash screen on startup,just when it's loading a disc.

phenonix 20th November 2009 21:50

did it come with UK maps?
How do you load maps i.e Australia?
do i request it from them?

picky747 20th November 2009 21:52

I got maps for all Europe,just tell them which ones you want.

T C G 1 20th November 2009 22:19

hi,picky 747, great product. could you tell me how i can buy this item,thanks.TCG1.

Robson Rover Repair 20th November 2009 23:11

Thats sold me.

Just will wait until they are selling them on ebay uk now and I will buy one. :lol:

wuzerk 21st November 2009 12:24

Double din
 
PICKY, nice job, do you know if it would also be a simple plug and play replacement for the Hi-line inbuilt TV and sat nav please?

Paul H 21st November 2009 12:34

Looks great picky.

picky747 21st November 2009 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by T C G 1 (Post 420115)
hi,picky 747, great product. could you tell me how i can buy this item,thanks.TCG1.


Click on the link under the last picture in first post and send them an email.

Wuzerk,it uses standard ISO connectors so if thats what's on yours' then its plug and play.

Rover418275 21st November 2009 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 420150)
Click on the link under the last picture in first post and send them an email.

Wuzerk,it uses standard ISO connectors so if thats what's on yours' then its plug and play.

Does it retain the steering wheel controls? :)

Teflon 21st November 2009 13:22

He mentions steering wheel control in his first post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 419950)
.Steering wheel control works without any adaptors and you can map each control to different functions but I've stuck with the default(vol+ vol-,skip+ skip-, mode).

It really does look like a cracking bit of kit that ticks most of the boxes. The only "deal breaker" for me is only having a front input for an iPod. Having recently completed a nice discrete iPod install with my Symphony (using a Grom interface) I would not wish to go back to having wires trailing from the dashboard. :-(

Does it support a CD changer by any chance (I'm guessing not)? If it does, I may be able to use my Grom interface with it.

Cliff

picky747 21st November 2009 15:07

No CD changer support,but you can fit about 40 CDs' in mp3 format on a blank DVD.I'm going to take the unit back out tomorrow and open it up and see what can be done regarding rear usb .It might be possible to solder a lead onto the pads and run it out the back.Just been out and bought a 2gig micro SD to put some tunes on and I'm going to load my tom tom files on the supplied card and see which is best.

Teflon 21st November 2009 15:31

Sounds interesting. If it is possible to add a rear USB port then one is definitley on my shopping list. :D

Cliff

Alex30013k 21st November 2009 16:35

Same here, does the ipod track names come up using the usb lead?

stocktake 21st November 2009 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuzerk (Post 420143)
PICKY, nice job, do you know if it would also be a simple plug and play replacement for the Hi-line inbuilt TV and sat nav please?

What a superb looking unit.

Don't think it will be a straight swap for the hiline, The tuner is in the boot, so the screen is just a dumb unit. would be nice if it does though. :)

Lucky75owner 21st November 2009 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktake (Post 420305)
What a superb looking unit.

Don't think it will be a straight swap for the hiline, The tuner is in the boot, so the screen is just a dumb unit. would be nice if it does though. :)


Does that mean, when you replace the hiline with this unit you have no tv (no problem) but also no radio?

stocktake 21st November 2009 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky75owner (Post 420315)
Does that mean, when you replace the hiline with this unit you have no tv (no problem) but also no radio?

I would imagine that the tuner outputs would have to be linked into the existing speaker harness and eliminate the radio tuner.

Got to say I have no knowlage of doing this but it seems to make sense as the original tv and radio tuners are in the boot. Anybody help out here?

uk_dave&gill 21st November 2009 17:21

Looking good, and I like the fact that the steering wheel controls would work with no extra expense (current Sony unit doesn't allow this)

On the other hand, I too wouldn't want a front USB (and I'd need to know that the unit could read from my current 40GB hard drive, residing in the glove box)

Lucky75owner 21st November 2009 17:22

Got to say I have no knowlage of doing this but it seems to make sense as the original tv and radio tuners are in the boot. Anybody help out here?[/quote]


Think you have a point there.

wuzerk 21st November 2009 19:24

Hi LINE
 
ERIC, it doesn't matter where the Hi line TV tuner and Sat nav units are since this unit will make them obsolete. It is my understanding that you just have to give it a power supply and hook up the speakers and aerials and it should be fine. I just don't know if it will be a simple plug in job? My Freeview TV
tuner will just plug in to it too. Could one of the experts please clarify please as I am sure I am overlooking something!

stocktake 21st November 2009 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuzerk (Post 420429)
ERIC, it doesn't matter where the Hi line TV tuner and Sat nav units are since this unit will make them obsolete. It is my understanding that you just have to give it a power supply and hook up the speakers and aerials and it should be fine. I just don't know if it will be a simple plug in job? My Freeview TV
tuner will just plug in to it too. Could one of the experts please clarify please as I am sure I am overlooking something!


I think Eric and i understand that the old tuners in the boot are made obsolete. The question that prevails is where do the speakers join in to the system on the HiLine? If they are run direct from the tuners in the boot as opposed to the head unit, then it may be the speaker outputs from the new unit will have to be taken to the speakers them selves or the boot.

On the other hand it could be there is a standard harness in place already that is just taped up somewhere behind the head unit :)

STUBIE 21st November 2009 19:39

I would think that you would have to get a BMW to ISO lead and plug it into the BMW connector on the main loom at the bottom of the central console. When I retrofitted hiline I had to do the reverse as the later cars did not have the BMW plug.

Stubs

StevenWilliams 21st November 2009 19:45

I have to say that this looks amazing and exactly what I've been waiting for..

After Christmas is over I'll be contacting the company to get one but I'm hoping they can give me a Rover logo.

I'll also be putting my TOM TOM install on it.

Lucky75owner 21st November 2009 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktake (Post 420448)
I think Eric and i understand that the old tuners in the boot are made obsolete. The question that prevails is where do the speakers join in to the system on the HiLine? If they are run direct from the tuners in the boot as opposed to the head unit, then it may be the speaker outputs from the new unit will have to be taken to the speakers them selves or the boot.

On the other hand it could be there is a standard harness in place already that is just taped up somewhere behind the head unit :)


I think the answer will be the option mentioned by stubs (I hope :o)

stocktake 21st November 2009 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky75owner (Post 420475)
I think the answer will be the option mentioned by stubs (I hope :o)

I think stubs may be right as well, still disconnect the old tuners as a matter of course.

MN190 21st November 2009 20:31

You will also need to extend the ariel lead to the front as this finishes in the boot on the Hi line system

picky747 21st November 2009 20:43

Tried it with TomTom today and it works fine.

J1MBO 21st November 2009 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 420518)
Tried it with TomTom today and it works fine.

That's good to know as I'm not sure about IGO8.

Do you also know if you can somehow hook up the TT TMC, or would you have to use Traffic via mobile phone and bluetooth.

Think it's a great looking unit overall at the price, but just would like DAB or at least RDS. Maybe I just have to see it in the flesh and play with it.

Regards

David Lawrence 21st November 2009 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by J1MBO (Post 420526)
That's good to know as I'm not sure about IGO8.

Do you also know if you can somehow hook up the TT TMC, or would you have to use Traffic via mobile phone and bluetooth.

Think it's a great looking unit overall at the price, but just would like DAB or at least RDS. Maybe I just have to see it in the flesh and play with it.

Regards


Check this link, it says RDS included.
http://dvd.china-direct-buy.com/v/4/..._iPod_RDS.html

bluenose66 22nd November 2009 11:13

Spot on that Picky, looks a cracking piece of kit that. Get's my attention with the 'simples' plug and play install. Keep them photo's coming with dvb-t install, does the firm in China do a dvb-t option ?

Ajd1 22nd November 2009 15:02

Very impressed with the looks.

Do you know if it supports dual zone? i.e nav in the front and a dvd on the rear screens at the same time?

Looking forward to them appearing on ebay, hope it's not too long.

Thanks

Andy

picky747 22nd November 2009 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenose66 (Post 420705)
does the firm in China do a dvb-t option ?

I've just had the unit to pieces and the tv tuner is a plug in card so I will email them tomorrow to see if they will sell the DVB-T module.As for dual zone I'm not sure as I don't have rear screens but I know you can play the radio/cd/SD card while the satnav is running.It does,however ,have two video outputs for extra screens.

J1MBO 22nd November 2009 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lawrence (Post 420575)
Check this link, it says RDS included.
http://dvd.china-direct-buy.com/v/4/..._iPod_RDS.html

I stand corrected - mind you I've seen other units from the same part of the world that state RDS which don't seem to work in this country.

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 420814)
I've just had the unit to pieces and the tv tuner is a plug in card so I will email them tomorrow to see if they will sell the DVB-T module.As for dual zone I'm not sure as I don't have rear screens but I know you can play the radio/cd/SD card while the satnav is running.It does,however ,have two video outputs for extra screens.

Seem's to getting more interesting all the time. Intend changing my car in about 2/3 months so this unit will probably have to wait till then.

Regards

Teflon 22nd November 2009 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 420814)
I've just had the unit to pieces .....

Does it look like it's possible to solder in a rear USB connector?

Cliff

picky747 22nd November 2009 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teflon (Post 420905)
Does it look like it's possible to solder in a rear USB connector?

Cliff

Unfortunately I don't think so.The whole of the front is in one piece and attaches to the main unit by a row of pins into a connector.You would have to dismantle the whole front part to access the usb connector as I can't see any pads on the main board that relate to usb.If you were determined enough I suppose it might be possible.

Teflon 22nd November 2009 17:39

OK. Thanks for the prompt response.

Right now, it seems you must be the most popular person on these forums. :D:D

Cliff

picky747 22nd November 2009 17:42

Gonna charge 50p a question.It'll soon pay for the unit:D

trebor 22nd November 2009 19:45

have you not considered turning yourself red ?

Robson Rover Repair 22nd November 2009 22:27

I think the I pod goes into the rear buy the looks of it.

picky747 23rd November 2009 07:12


Update On First Post

75ConSE 23rd November 2009 07:56

I am looking for one of these chinese units that has TMC and as a lot of them have RDS (so they say), I thought it must be quite an easy fix to add a TMC module inside and if not, plugged externally into the AUX/USB socket on the front. So, I put this point to the manufacturer of this unit, pointing out that they could make a lot of money from developing a universal external module. This was their reply today:

Thanks for your message. I am Kevin Wang.
Sorry this unit can not be with TMC built in or external module. Yes this unit support RDS.
For more details please visit our website: www.keenlu.com
Any questions feel free to let me know.
Best Regards
Kevin Wang

I live in hope! :sad3:

picky747 23rd November 2009 08:07

75ConSE.I am not dealing with Keenlu. The company I got mine from is Hualingan.

75ConSE 23rd November 2009 08:08

I believe Keenlu are the manufacturers though, which is why I emailed them. The unit is on their website.

From their homepage:


Keenlu Industrial Co., Limited is located in Shenzhen, the special economic zone of China and only half an hour drive to Hongkong. We are a leading manufactuer & wholesaler of car dvd gps players as in-dash 1 din and 2 din car dvd gps, all-in-one special car dvd gps, and other car dvd gps accessories, etc.


With technological innovation, advanced quality, punctual delivery, and sincere service, our business has been rapidly and widely expanded to many countries throughout the world.....

e668ecp 23rd November 2009 08:31

Reading this with increased interest!!

Am I correct in thinking the following:

Its touch screen?
Its got bluetooth? And if so does the sound come through the speakers?
New version will have digital TV tuner built in?
It plays DVD's (what region)?
Its plays CD's?
Can be linked straight into MG ZT / Rover 75 through ISO ports?

Where can I buy one from?

picky747 23rd November 2009 08:32

There's at least 3 companies up to now claiming to be the manufacturer.I think they just buy generic parts in and then assemble them in their plant.I went with Hualingan because they offered the best price at $340.Suav want $588 for the same model!

phenonix 23rd November 2009 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75ConSE (Post 421150)
I am looking for one of these chinese units that has TMC and as a lot of them have RDS (so they say), I thought it must be quite an easy fix to add a TMC module inside and if not, plugged externally into the AUX/USB socket on the front. So, I put this point to the manufacturer of this unit, pointing out that they could make a lot of money from developing a universal external module. This was their reply today:

Thanks for your message. I am Kevin Wang.
Sorry this unit can not be with TMC built in or external module. Yes this unit support RDS.
For more details please visit our website: www.keenlu.com
Any questions feel free to let me know.
Best Regards
Kevin Wang

I live in hope! :sad3:

I have just been told by Cathy the NEW model have RDS and Ipod,ready in December, this model does not
anyone know about this?

phenonix 23rd November 2009 09:07

10th of December, maybe before that, extra $3.00

phenonix 23rd November 2009 09:23

I understand they only accept TT and Western Union, Pinky i know you received yours all ok but i've heard warnings about buying using TT and Western Union, does anyone have any advice?

picky747 23rd November 2009 09:55

I have updated the first post with the new information Cathy sent me,just waiting to hear if they can do blue backlighting for the MG guys.I paid using Western Union and had no problem the only downside is there is a charge to do this of £25,however, T/T also incurs similar charges so it's up to the buyer which they prefer to use.The lack of RDS does not bother me as I only have one station on in the car and as for iPod,never had one ,never will own one,a 20p DVD with 40 mp3 albums on does me plus I got a 2gig microSD card to throw any other stuff onto that I may want to listen to.If you own a bluetooth phone that plays mp3 off it's memory card this unit will also play the tracks on your phone wirelessly and the quality is spot on.My daughters jaw nearly hit the floor when I started playing the tunes off her phone through the car speakers!
Figured out how to change the logo to whatever you want so I've got a watercolour of my car as the background when playing CDs.This is not documented in the manual(not much else is either)

http://i49.tinypic.com/293ka45.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/fmkwvr.jpg

Ajd1 23rd November 2009 15:56

Thanks for answering my earlier question, looks like it will do what I want it to do.

If you don't mind I have another question though.

Have you had chance to use the satnav yet, if so how does the unit cope? I have heard that some of the chinese double dins struggle at times.

Thanks

Andy

picky747 23rd November 2009 16:02

Tried it with the supplied Igo8 and also TomTom and it works just fine with both.

Ajd1 23rd November 2009 16:16

Thanks once again, think I've made my mind up.

The quality of the unit looks a lot better than the generic one I bought a couple of weeks ago.

Just waiting to hear back from them now.

Andy

picky747 23rd November 2009 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by e668ecp (Post 421163)
Reading this with increased interest!!

Am I correct in thinking the following:

Its touch screen? YES
Its got bluetooth? And if so does the sound come through the speakers? YES AND WILL PLAY MUSIC OFF YOUR PHONE
New version will have digital TV tuner built in?YES EXTRA $45
It plays DVD's (what region)?YES ,MULTIREGION
Its plays CD's?YES
Can be linked straight into MG ZT / Rover 75 through ISO ports?YES ,STANDARD ISO FIT

Where can I buy one from?

LINK UNDER LAST PICTURE IN FIRST POST.

tony_fry 24th November 2009 07:18

Great looking unit, it's just a shame about the lack of TMC on the SAT NAV.

Well done :lol:

moonstoneboy 24th November 2009 07:22

Certainly looks good - well done for going for it.

Looking at the pics the knobs and buttons seem to fit with the ATC controls.

Noticed the picture on their website - RHD car.

The ones in December sound even better.

phenonix 24th November 2009 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 421389)
LINK UNDER LAST PICTURE IN FIRST POST.

:sad3:

does not bluetooth with an Iphone

75ConSE 24th November 2009 10:40

Right! Having said earlier that I have been looking for one of these Chinese units with TMC, I have been in touch with Cathy at Hualingan. She has discussed it with the engineers and they say THEY CAN ALSO FIT THIS WITH TMC :D :D :D :D!!!

As Picky said in his updated post, the updated version with DVB-T will be ready by 10th December. I have now asked if it is possible to add a TMC internal module for this date and they said they can do it by then, if not before :D :D :D :D!

The new price, which includes the original unit ($345) upgraded to DVB-T ($45), TMC ($40) and p+p (DHL $86) is US$516. Then, you have to add the £25 money transfer fee and of course, there is also the risk of customs adding their cut!!

I have been promised an email as soon as it is ready. Can't wait!

Dear Santa........! (Cc Mr. Visa!!)

Bam 24th November 2009 10:54

:drool4: Ja ja ja hebben hebben hebben :drool4:

:drool4:yes yes yes wana wanna wanna :drool4:

uk_dave&gill 24th November 2009 11:20

Interesting how different folks want different things out of these units!

For me, the most important would be HDD compatibility, touch screen, interfacing with the steering wheel controls "out of the box", and bluetooth. Middling would be ability to play DVD and TV (nice if it had it, wouldn't be an issue if it didn't). Bottom of the pile is radio reception and RDS (I never listen to the radio and find road traffic info an irritation - guess this depends on where you live/are driving to a degree!)

I don't even know what TMC is! :D

tony_fry 24th November 2009 11:24

TMC = Traffic Message Channel used in conjecture with SAT NAV it advisee's you on the traffic

Quote:

Originally Posted by uk_dave&gill (Post 421712)
Interesting how different folks want different things out of these units!

For me, the most important would be HDD compatibility, touch screen, interfacing with the steering wheel controls "out of the box", and bluetooth. Middling would be ability to play DVD and TV (nice if it had it, wouldn't be an issue if it didn't). Bottom of the pile is radio reception and RDS (I never listen to the radio and find road traffic info an irritation - guess this depends on where you live/are driving to a degree!)

I don't even know what TMC is! :D


75ConSE 24th November 2009 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by uk_dave&gill (Post 421712)
I don't even know what TMC is! :D

Dave, please don't be offended if I say LITERALLY, you need to get out more!!!! :getmecoat:

uk_dave&gill 24th November 2009 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75ConSE (Post 421754)
Dave, please don't be offended if I say LITERALLY, you need to get out more!!!! :getmecoat:

:D No, you're right!

(although in my defence M'lud, even though I am a SatNav convert, I don't do TLA's aka Three Letter Acronyms!!)

uk_dave&gill 24th November 2009 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_fry (Post 421716)
TMC = Traffic Message Channel used in conjecture with SAT NAV it advisee's you on the traffic

Thanks Tony

(bet you have to subscribe for this?!)

tony_fry 24th November 2009 14:17

Hello Dave,

No the TMC is free it uses the traffic information from the radio stations, which I have found to be very good, it constantly is updated.

If you look at the 4th picture on this tread it will show you the TMC working with traffic probelms.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=47225

Beerhunter39 24th November 2009 15:22

Double din
 
As I see it, the problem now is that unless the manufacturers are prepared to make a unit especially to order to satisfy a customers specific requirements then the unit price which includes everything that anyone could want will rise to a point where I for one would be priced out of the market.
I don't want to pay for things I would not want nor use.
Picky's original unit with RDS which is how it was advertised even if it didn't work would have done for me and I may have bought one at that price.

tony_fry 24th November 2009 15:27

Hello Keith

How did the operation go? I hope you are well and trying to get about.

I think the unit is worth what you are willing to pay for it and what you want it to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerhunter39 (Post 421821)
As I see it, the problem now is that unless the manufacturers are prepared to make a unit especially to order to satisfy a customers specific requirements then the unit price which includes everything that anyone could want will rise to a point where I for one would be priced out of the market.
I don't want to pay for things I would not want nor use.
Picky's original unit with RDS which is how it was advertised even if it didn't work would have done for me and I may have bought one at that price.


Lucky75owner 24th November 2009 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75ConSE (Post 421703)
Right! Having said earlier that I have been looking for one of these Chinese units with TMC, I have been in touch with Cathy at Hualingan. She has discussed it with the engineers and they say THEY CAN ALSO FIT THIS WITH TMC :D :D :D :D!!!

As Picky said in his updated post, the updated version with DVB-T will be ready by 10th December. I have now asked if it is possible to add a TMC internal module for this date and they said they can do it by then, if not before :D :D :D :D!

The new price, which includes the original unit ($345) upgraded to DVB-T ($45), TMC ($40) and p+p (DHL $86) is US$516. Then, you have to add the £25 money transfer fee and of course, there is also the risk of customs adding their cut!!

I have been promised an email as soon as it is ready. Can't wait!


Dear Santa........! (Cc Mr. Visa!!)


Think Cathy is very pleased with the 75andzt club
I wonder how many of us will buy one.:D

uk_dave&gill 24th November 2009 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_fry (Post 421788)
Hello Dave,

No the TMC is free it uses the traffic information from the radio stations, which I have found to be very good, it constantly is updated.

If you look at the 4th picture on this tread it will show you the TMC working with traffic probelms.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=47225

Interesting

Cheers for the follow up info!

75ConSE 24th November 2009 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerhunter39 (Post 421821)
As I see it, the problem now is that unless the manufacturers are prepared to make a unit especially to order to satisfy a customers specific requirements then the unit price which includes everything that anyone could want will rise to a point where I for one would be priced out of the market.
I don't want to pay for things I would not want nor use.
Picky's original unit with RDS which is how it was advertised even if it didn't work would have done for me and I may have bought one at that price.

Unless I have got the wrong end of the stick, that IS what they are prepared to do, just like they were prepared to put a Rover logo on it for Picky (for free) instead of the MG one. If you want the extras, then you pay for them. At least that is the way I have been lead to believe. I will ask the specific question tomorrow. Fair point though.

picky747 24th November 2009 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75ConSE (Post 421835)
just like they were prepared to put a Rover logo on it for Picky (for free) instead of the MG one.

I was waiting for nearly three weeks while they changed the logo so in the end I said just send it unchanged so I could at least get one to try out.Since then I have sussed out how to do it myself and let Cathy know.A bit later Cathy emailed back and said "could you teach me how to do it?" So I believe I am now on the staff as an unpaid technical advisor.:shrug:

tony_fry 24th November 2009 17:16

Graham, am I right in saying the MG logo was only loaded with the SAT NAV? if that is the case it is quite easy to change via the Skin on IGO.



Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 421890)
I was waiting for nearly three weeks while they changed the logo so in the end I said just send it unchanged so I could at least get one to try out.Since then I have sussed out how to do it myself and let Cathy know.A bit later Cathy emailed back and said "could you teach me how to do it?" So I believe I am now on the staff as an unpaid technical advisor.:shrug:


picky747 24th November 2009 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_fry (Post 421898)
Graham, am I right in saying the MG logo was only loaded with the SAT NAV? if that is the case it is quite easy to change via the Skin on IGO.

The logo does not apply to the satnav/winCE side of things it's held in flash memory controlled by the Sunplus chip which drives the main interface and functions other than the satnav.The logo does not show on start up I think it just defaults to the last mode that was used when you switch it on,however, if you play a cd or when a dvd is loading then that's when the logo rears its ugly head.You don't even have to have a logo ,you could have just a blank screen or any picture you like,even one of the wife..................no forget that last part!!!

tony_fry 24th November 2009 17:52

MMM how did you change it? I have had a look at my unit and can not get into the setup to change the logo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 421925)
The logo does not apply to the satnav/winCE side of things it's held in flash memory controlled by the Sunplus chip which drives the main interface and functions other than the satnav.The logo does not show on start up I think it just defaults to the last mode that was used when you switch it on,however, if you play a cd or when a dvd is loadinng then that's when the logo rears its ugly head.You don't even have to have a logo ,you could have just a blank screen or any picture you like,even one of the wife..................no forget that last part!!!


picky747 24th November 2009 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_fry (Post 421928)
MMM how did you change it? I have had a look at my unit and can not get into the setup to change the logo.

You can't access it from the unit,it's done off the remote control and the picture you want to use has to be on the SD card or a usb thumbdrive.I had to improvise the instructions from another chinese unit and tried random buttons till I hit the right one.

David Lawrence 24th November 2009 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 421890)
I was waiting for nearly three weeks while they changed the logo so in the end I said just send it unchanged so I could at least get one to try out.Since then I have sussed out how to do it myself and let Cathy know.A bit later Cathy emailed back and said "could you teach me how to do it?" So I believe I am now on the staff as an unpaid technical advisor.:shrug:


Not only technical advisor but also photographer & marketing advisor, because unless I'm very much mistaken, Hualigan website now sports a photo of your install.

picky747 24th November 2009 18:13

You're right,I sent that pic to Cathy last week.I'll have to get the copyright police onto them.LOL.

ml.williams 24th November 2009 22:58

will the dec updated vertion have DAB or is it just digital telly?

Robson Rover Repair 25th November 2009 02:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75ConSE (Post 421703)
Right! Having said earlier that I have been looking for one of these Chinese units with TMC, I have been in touch with Cathy at Hualingan. She has discussed it with the engineers and they say THEY CAN ALSO FIT THIS WITH TMC :D :D :D :D!!!

As Picky said in his updated post, the updated version with DVB-T will be ready by 10th December. I have now asked if it is possible to add a TMC internal module for this date and they said they can do it by then, if not before :D :D :D :D!

The new price, which includes the original unit ($345) upgraded to DVB-T ($45), TMC ($40) and p+p (DHL $86) is US$516. Then, you have to add the £25 money transfer fee and of course, there is also the risk of customs adding their cut!!

I have been promised an email as soon as it is ready. Can't wait!

Dear Santa........! (Cc Mr. Visa!!)

All in all, a 100% unit for 320 British Pounds (minus customs lol). Thats flipping good value for money.

moonstoneboy 25th November 2009 06:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacGyver (Post 422145)
All in all, a 100% unit for 320 British Pounds (minus customs lol). Thats flipping good value for money.

That's some exchange rate you are getting - in reality think it will be just under £350

moonstoneboy 25th November 2009 07:17

Graham

You should be ashamed of yourself - what have you done to the price obtainable for the original fit highline set up where you have 6 boxes in the back and a mile of wiring to run to the front :D

I suppose the answer to 'what is the best thing to come out of MG Rovers collapse' is this - I doubt if these would have been produced if the 75/ZT was not being made in China

Paul

solaise 25th November 2009 07:27

Its £340.12 inc transfer fee - priced up from the Western Union website

75ConSE 25th November 2009 07:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerhunter39 (Post 421821)
As I see it, the problem now is that unless the manufacturers are prepared to make a unit especially to order to satisfy a customers specific requirements then the unit price which includes everything that anyone could want will rise to a point where I for one would be priced out of the market.
I don't want to pay for things I would not want nor use.
Picky's original unit with RDS which is how it was advertised even if it didn't work would have done for me and I may have bought one at that price.

I have put the question to Cathy (via Windows Messenger) at Hualingan about making the unit to the customers spec. This is exactly what was said:
Paul says:
Hi Cathy. A question about the 8733 (from the Rover 75/MG ZT members forum). The new model will be available with DVB-T and TMC at extra cost. Will these be OPTIONAL extras or will people be able to buy just the basic unit at $345 and TMC if they wish, or the basic unit and DVB-T with no TMC, or will they be able to buy the basic unit only still (after 10th December)?
Paul says:
What I am trying to say is, can the customer order it to their own specification, with or without the options? I hope I have explained myself OK.
cathy--6.2inch7.0inch car dvd -V-6 disc changer memory,PICTURE IN PICTURE FUNCTION says:
yes, well noted, yes, the member can only have this model as $345 , dont choose any other functions, and also can choose the TMC, DVB-T by themselves, if choose , add money, if dont, so don't need pay the extra money.


So, this is another result. However, I have been asked by Cathy to find out approximate numbers of people that would be interested in this, with or without the options. I will start another thread.



woolleysox 25th November 2009 08:00

Hi Paul im up for one with the when you start your thread best wishes woolleysox:D

billcoleman 25th November 2009 12:10

A question about the bluetooth - is it possible to dial out with voice commands or some other handsfree?

The square shaped version that I had previously purchased (not yet fitted to car) will only allow you to dial a number by pressing the correct numbers on the touchscreen keypad.

Bill C

ml.williams 25th November 2009 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75ConSE (Post 422183)

So, this is another result. However, I have been asked by Cathy to find out approximate numbers of people that would be interested in this, with or without the options. I will start another thread.

this is an almost perfict unit but could you ask if they plan on adding DAB as that is a must for what ever i replace my old alpine with

CDTi 25th November 2009 13:19

Now on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTO-Car-Gps-Nav...124017007r4770

David Lawrence 25th November 2009 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 421943)
You're right,I sent that pic to Cathy last week.I'll have to get the copyright police onto them.LOL.



I reckon they owe you a nice commission fee for bringing this product to our attention, if they pay you £1 for every sale they make from your lead, the unit will be paid for by Christmas

picky747 25th November 2009 21:30

couple more pics to show match with the dash lights and the new logo I did.

http://i48.tinypic.com/vfzj43.jpg


http://i50.tinypic.com/657uhl.jpg


http://i50.tinypic.com/eas702.jpg

Robson Rover Repair 25th November 2009 21:33

Rather excellent.

Now to get someone making stickers to cover them to match the interior triming!

75ConSE 25th November 2009 21:35

WOW!! That is the muts ****! Guess you had better get a 'how-to' ready for how to change the logo! Well done for all your leg work on the unit by the way.

picky747 25th November 2009 21:37

The logo secret will be sold at 50p a time I've got to pay for it somehow.:D

Christopher 25th November 2009 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 422564)
The logo secret will be sold at 50p a time I've got to pay for it somehow.:D

Good idea! - We should adopt this view for the running of this forum ;)

moonstoneboy 26th November 2009 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDTi (Post 422322)

But this is quite a bit more expensive than from the company that Picky found.

Also your unit now looks excellent now you have got rid of that rubbish MG logo :D

picky747 26th November 2009 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by moonstoneboy (Post 422641)

Also your unit now looks excellent now you have got rid of that rubbish MG logo :D

Good god, you'll start a war talking like that.:D

moonstoneboy 26th November 2009 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_fry (Post 421788)
Hello Dave,

No the TMC is free it uses the traffic information from the radio stations, which I have found to be very good, it constantly is updated.

If you look at the 4th picture on this tread it will show you the TMC working with traffic probelms.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=47225

Tony

Looking on Wikipedia it says that in the UK it is a subscribed service - is this the case or is it free?

Paul

Hans-Peter 26th November 2009 19:46

Have you tried to connect the System to a Notebook ? This would make it easier to update or configure the system i think. Maybe it should work via the USB connection ?

picky747 26th November 2009 20:34

No USB computer connection but I have had the unit to pieces and there is a serial port connection on the main board.

grossebaby 26th November 2009 20:39

I keep asking and I know aesthetics matter and functionality, BUT how does it sound?

Keleko 26th November 2009 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by grossebaby (Post 422947)
I keep asking and I know aesthetics matter and functionality, BUT how does it sound?

It sounds awesome, i was sat in the car when Graham turned it up running off the micro sd card and its loverly and crisp with nice bass too, just as you'd expect from the standard unit :D

David Lawrence 27th November 2009 05:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keleko (Post 422959)
It sounds awesome, i was sat in the car when Graham turned it up running off the micro sd card and its loverly and crisp with nice bass too, just as you'd expect from the standard unit :D



So it solves the puny bass problem on the standard symphony models as well? This unit just gets better and better

tony_fry 27th November 2009 06:08

Hi Paul,

There is no subscription charge in the UK if you want the premium TMC then it is chargeable, but you do not need it, it is free from the local radio stations, I have the TMC on my head unit and on my PDA (just in case I use another car) and it works very well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by moonstoneboy (Post 422674)
Tony

Looking on Wikipedia it says that in the UK it is a subscribed service - is this the case or is it free?

Paul


moonstoneboy 27th November 2009 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_fry (Post 423056)
Hi Paul,

There is no subscription charge in the UK if you want the premium TMC then it is chargeable, but youo do not need it, it is free from the local radio stations, I have the TMC on my head unit and on my PDA (just in case I use another car) and it works very well.

Thanks Tony

woolleysox 27th November 2009 20:19

i have been reading the thread on tother side and it would appear aprice hike is in the offering. You can now pay by Pay pal but it carries an 40usd charge!.


http://hnmqjtimlu.diytrade.com/sdp/7...GPS_BT_TV.html

chrissyboy 27th November 2009 20:49

wow looks really kool ,i want one ,dear santa i have been a good boy this year :D

phenonix 27th November 2009 22:12

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ht_2687wt_1006

This seller will be putting up the MG DVD next week for GBP320.00, still not as cheap as from Cathy but postage will be free and it will be through Paypal.

Nick999 27th November 2009 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenonix (Post 423436)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ht_2687wt_1006

This seller will be putting up the MG DVD next week for GBP320.00, still not as cheap as from Cathy but postage will be free and it will be through Paypal.

Thats a different unit for a Suzuki Swift.. I paid £291 today by PayPal including delivery from Cathy. But she did say price would rise from tomorrow!! But the new unit will get ipod connection at rear.

phenonix 27th November 2009 22:46

not the unit, just the seller, he has not put the unit up yet.

scottambrose 28th November 2009 08:06

if customs get hold of it what would the likely charge extra be??

JohnDotCom 28th November 2009 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottambrose (Post 423502)
if customs get hold of it what would the likely charge extra be??

At least the VAT and other duties. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...cons/icon9.gif

Ajd1 28th November 2009 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottambrose (Post 423502)
if customs get hold of it what would the likely charge extra be??

They don't seem to be consistant in what they charge in my limited experience.

A couple of weeks ago I got charged £26 on a £200 double din £11 of that was the courier surcharge so the actual customs charge didn't even cover the vat.

The next week a £70 package came through with no charges at all.

Last year though I got charged over £80 on a £450 camera lens, still cheaper than buying it here though.

It does seem to be a bit hit and miss.

Andy

Nick999 28th November 2009 10:37

Does any one know if the steering wheel controls only work with infra red because I have a jack plug to the back of my Kenwood stereo. I know most owners have the infra red set-up.
Bit late now I know as it's ordered and paid for, but I wonder if the infra red sensors can be bought at X Part etc?

Nick.

wutang 28th November 2009 11:12

Nick, I belive the steering wheel controls are via a plug at the back as with the symphoney / iso set up.

richard

Nick999 28th November 2009 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutang (Post 423559)
Nick, I belive the steering wheel controls are via a plug at the back as with the symphoney / iso set up.

richard

I hope so Richard. I didn't realise the Symphoney system was plug in at the back. Thought most were IR.. You have given me hope .lol. Couldnt live with out the steering wheel controls!

Nick.

Hans-Peter 28th November 2009 12:23

What about warranty or contact in case of technical issues / problems ? Do you have to send it back to China....:shrug:

bluenose66 28th November 2009 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick999 (Post 423563)
I hope so Richard. I didn't realise the Symphoney system was plug in at the back. Thought most were IR.. You have given me hope .lol. Couldnt live with out the steering wheel controls!

Nick.


Picky says on the 'other side' that he does'nt have IR sensor and has no issues, so should be OK Nick.

John

Nick999 28th November 2009 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenose66 (Post 423660)
Picky says on the 'other side' that he does'nt have IR sensor and has no issues, so should be OK Nick.

John

Excellent. I didn't give it a thought when ordering. Looking forward to receiving it :)

moonstoneboy 29th November 2009 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluenose66 (Post 423660)
Picky says on the 'other side' that he does'nt have IR sensor and has no issues, so should be OK Nick.

John

The Symphony unit did not have IR, it was the later Kenwood units that did

Paul

Nick999 29th November 2009 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by moonstoneboy (Post 423935)
The Symphony unit did not have IR, it was the later Kenwood units that did

Paul

Thanks Paul. I didn't know that. I've even had a couple of MK1 ZT's with Symphony!!
Wierd though as the Kenwood system on my facelift 190 doesnt have IR.

CDTi 30th November 2009 18:02

Has anyone tried Mio Pocket on this unit?

picky747 30th November 2009 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDTi (Post 424455)
Has anyone tried Mio Pocket on this unit?

As I am the only one with this unit I would think not,however,I did have the files on my SD card this morning but in the end I bottled it.Don't want to brick it before I fit the freeview box.I have seen a vid on youtube where a guy has it on his Mazda unit and the WinCE front end is identical to this unit so maybe it can be done.I'll let someone else try first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4rqqWTXaA

Also tried Miomap on this today and does not work because of the resolution of the screen,had to tweak a few files but then the touch screen went a bit haywire so it's back to TomTom for now.

carcass 2nd December 2009 00:00

One for a LHD please :)
 
Hi all,

I'm watching this thread with mighty interest, and probably wait until after xmas to order a unit too.

I've got a 75 saloon high line sat/tv and premium sound HK factory fitted, and as I understand it, it will not be a plug & play to the harman kardon amp as it works with speaker level line in's?

Can it be used/hacked to receive RCA's instead? or would it work with a RCA to speaker loom "adapter" ?

Any info will be much appreciated.

Kind regards from Portugal

Terryf 2nd December 2009 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcass (Post 425215)
Hi all,

I'm watching this thread with mighty interest, and probably wait until after xmas to order a unit too.

I've got a 75 saloon high line sat/tv and premium sound HK factory fitted, and as I understand it, it will not be a plug & play to the harman kardon amp as it works with speaker level line in's?

Can it be used/hacked to receive RCA's instead? or would it work with a RCA to speaker loom "adapter" ?

Any info will be much appreciated.

Kind regards from Portugal

I have lo-line with HK. Surely if the HK takes speaker level inputs we connect to speaker outs on the unit. There is no volume control on HK amp volume control is done by the head unit. Or have I got it totally wrong.

picky747 2nd December 2009 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terryf (Post 425246)
I have lo-line with HK. Surely if the HK takes speaker level inputs we connect to speaker outs on the unit. There is no volume control on HK amp volume control is done by the head unit. Or have I got it totally wrong.

Was just going to suggest that myself.If the amp is fed from the speaker connections on the ISO block then you should be able to run the amp as you do now,all you are doing is swapping one head unit for another.According to RAVE the ISO connections are behind the dash in all variants.

Terryf 2nd December 2009 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 425319)
Was just going to suggest that myself.If the amp is fed from the speaker connections on the ISO block then you should be able to run the amp as you do now,all you are doing is swapping one head unit for another.According to RAVE the ISO connections are behind the dash in all variants.

Thanks, if that is correct, that is one problem out of the way.

Stallion 2nd December 2009 17:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXi47XePwb0

carcass 2nd December 2009 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 425319)
Was just going to suggest that myself.If the amp is fed from the speaker connections on the ISO block then you should be able to run the amp as you do now,all you are doing is swapping one head unit for another.According to RAVE the ISO connections are behind the dash in all variants.

Thank you Terry and Picky,
well then, it seems that I will lighten my car by several kg (4:3 module, tv module, gps module...)

anything to cover the hole in the boot when I remove the gps?

regards.

Basso 3rd December 2009 13:42

All sounds very interesting.....

Just a few questions.

Does the system come with DAB as well, for the ultimate in future proofing?

What is the Sat Nav software it comes with like, and how upgradeable is it? Someone mentioned Tom Tom - is this an extra you can add?

Will the unit control an external cd changer?

I guess the trip computer on the current Hi Line system I have will be lost.

I notice from one of the youtube clips (the Mazda one) that the system had a lot of chinese text on it - presumably this is easy to change!

Can't wait to get one.....

StevenWilliams 3rd December 2009 18:20

The guy selling them on eBay has stated that if you provide the logo they will put the Rover one on.

They also stated that they can provide the firmware so you can flash your own.

picky747 3rd December 2009 18:47

You can put any logo on yourself.Here's one I did earlier,however, a copy of the firmware would come in very handy.

http://i50.tinypic.com/eas702.jpg

Terryf 3rd December 2009 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 425912)
You can put any logo on yourself.Here's one I did earlier,however, a copy of the firmware would come in very handy.

http://i50.tinypic.com/eas702.jpg

When the new edition of these units are available, sometime in new year, would you please be willing to post what you have found and a "how to" to help others do the same.
Terry

Lucky75owner 3rd December 2009 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terryf (Post 425943)
When the new edition of these units are available, sometime in new year, would you please be willing to post what you have found and a "how to" to help others do the same.
Terry

Would be a great idea. I want to replace my hi-line with this unit and hope that someone can give an "how to" to do it. Would be the first thing I do myself (I hope):shrug:

iswoolley 3rd December 2009 20:48

Antennae
 
@picky747 - What additional antenna did you have to install? I presume the existing FM/AM antenna in the rear window is retained. But what about for GPS and TV?

picky747 3rd December 2009 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by iswoolley (Post 425991)
@picky747 - What additional antenna did you have to install? I presume the existing FM/AM antenna in the rear window is retained. But what about for GPS and TV?

The GPS aerial is just sat on the dash,radio uses the factory fit window aerial and for the TV I've just got a freeview box and I'm going to get one of those stick on the window jobbies like this.

Keleko 3rd December 2009 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 426035)
The GPS aerial is just sat on the dash,radio uses the factory fit window aerial and for the TV I've just got a freeview box and I'm going to get one of those stick on the window jobbies like this.

Dude, seriously gonna need your help when i finally get hold of a double din unit ;)


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