75/ZT double din arrived and installed
UPDATE:STILL WAITING FOR TMC RDS CONFIRMATION.
The unit finally arrived at 10.30 this morning so I've done a few shots before and after the install.Just a few points to mention,I pods are only supported via the front mounted usb connector,radio is not RDS enabled,SD cards used are micro SD(the kind that are used in mobile phones.The bluetooth works fine and also streaming music off your phone via A2DP which is very good quality.It does not come with a tv arial so I've not tried that function out yet,just waiting to buy a DVB-T box off ebay.Sat-nav works fine(it does come with an arial which I placed on the dash)and you can listen to other sources whilst it is working.The install was basically plug and play with the connectors that came with it.Steering wheel control works without any adaptors and you can map each control to different functions but I've stuck with the default(vol+ vol-,skip+ skip-, mode). Sound wise,,very good lots of bass if you want it and can be boosted with the loudness control.I'll let you lot look at the pics now and if you have any questions I'll try my best...........Oh and it looks ****** luvly.:) http://i49.tinypic.com/i20lye.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/29cl05t.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/23mn9ts.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/2yuyo2p.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/i2opsg.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/160ssh2.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/epho4h.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/120rsqc.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/zswcpt.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2qbrbjo.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/qox8jt.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/206bimd.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/21kdkll.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/64m339.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/10dv81k.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/24erof7.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/264s8zq.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2rpa9h5.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/qygzo7.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/sfui4o.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/124f1uc.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/23uueu0.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/293ka45.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/fmkwvr.jpg Purchased mine from HERE. |
Now that looks very nice.
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Wow Picky it looks great:drool4::drool4::drool4::drool4:
So it was no hard job to get it in your car? |
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And if you dont mind me asking........how much ?
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I want one:drool4: |
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It looks a perfect match to the car Where does the SD Card go? And is the USB only on the front or is there one on the back so you can hide away a USB memory stick somewhere? |
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Total cost up to now is £279 ,but I could get a letter from customs in a couple of weeks ,it just depends if they pulled it or not. |
I like the way the illumination matches the OEM dash. Looks very good.:)
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very impressive and not only does it look good but an easy install with no cage to make, just fits straight in
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That looks really smart probably better than the B*W unit to be honest & touch screen too - love it.
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What about connecting an ipod? can you buy an lead?
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love the look of that
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So how did you get it for that price?
In contact with Suav and they quote a high price $588 US = 356 GBP How could i pursue that deal? |
looks very good
Hows the sat nav? Can you get TMC warnings and Postcode entry |
This was not bought from SUAV that is why it is cheaper ,link to manufacturer is in first post under the last picture.Ipod.....doesn't look like there is a way to connect it on the back,just the usb socket on the front.No TMC as the hardware is not there and you can use any nav software mine came with igo8 and it works fine.
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have they had any luck changing it to the Rover opening screen?
instead of the MG? |
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did it come with UK maps?
How do you load maps i.e Australia? do i request it from them? |
I got maps for all Europe,just tell them which ones you want.
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hi,picky 747, great product. could you tell me how i can buy this item,thanks.TCG1.
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Thats sold me.
Just will wait until they are selling them on ebay uk now and I will buy one. :lol: |
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PICKY, nice job, do you know if it would also be a simple plug and play replacement for the Hi-line inbuilt TV and sat nav please?
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Looks great picky.
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Click on the link under the last picture in first post and send them an email. Wuzerk,it uses standard ISO connectors so if thats what's on yours' then its plug and play. |
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He mentions steering wheel control in his first post:
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Does it support a CD changer by any chance (I'm guessing not)? If it does, I may be able to use my Grom interface with it. Cliff |
No CD changer support,but you can fit about 40 CDs' in mp3 format on a blank DVD.I'm going to take the unit back out tomorrow and open it up and see what can be done regarding rear usb .It might be possible to solder a lead onto the pads and run it out the back.Just been out and bought a 2gig micro SD to put some tunes on and I'm going to load my tom tom files on the supplied card and see which is best.
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Sounds interesting. If it is possible to add a rear USB port then one is definitley on my shopping list. :D
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Same here, does the ipod track names come up using the usb lead?
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Don't think it will be a straight swap for the hiline, The tuner is in the boot, so the screen is just a dumb unit. would be nice if it does though. :) |
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Does that mean, when you replace the hiline with this unit you have no tv (no problem) but also no radio? |
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Got to say I have no knowlage of doing this but it seems to make sense as the original tv and radio tuners are in the boot. Anybody help out here? |
Looking good, and I like the fact that the steering wheel controls would work with no extra expense (current Sony unit doesn't allow this)
On the other hand, I too wouldn't want a front USB (and I'd need to know that the unit could read from my current 40GB hard drive, residing in the glove box) |
Got to say I have no knowlage of doing this but it seems to make sense as the original tv and radio tuners are in the boot. Anybody help out here?[/quote]
Think you have a point there. |
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ERIC, it doesn't matter where the Hi line TV tuner and Sat nav units are since this unit will make them obsolete. It is my understanding that you just have to give it a power supply and hook up the speakers and aerials and it should be fine. I just don't know if it will be a simple plug in job? My Freeview TV
tuner will just plug in to it too. Could one of the experts please clarify please as I am sure I am overlooking something! |
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I think Eric and i understand that the old tuners in the boot are made obsolete. The question that prevails is where do the speakers join in to the system on the HiLine? If they are run direct from the tuners in the boot as opposed to the head unit, then it may be the speaker outputs from the new unit will have to be taken to the speakers them selves or the boot. On the other hand it could be there is a standard harness in place already that is just taped up somewhere behind the head unit :) |
I would think that you would have to get a BMW to ISO lead and plug it into the BMW connector on the main loom at the bottom of the central console. When I retrofitted hiline I had to do the reverse as the later cars did not have the BMW plug.
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I have to say that this looks amazing and exactly what I've been waiting for..
After Christmas is over I'll be contacting the company to get one but I'm hoping they can give me a Rover logo. I'll also be putting my TOM TOM install on it. |
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I think the answer will be the option mentioned by stubs (I hope :o) |
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You will also need to extend the ariel lead to the front as this finishes in the boot on the Hi line system
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Tried it with TomTom today and it works fine.
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Do you also know if you can somehow hook up the TT TMC, or would you have to use Traffic via mobile phone and bluetooth. Think it's a great looking unit overall at the price, but just would like DAB or at least RDS. Maybe I just have to see it in the flesh and play with it. Regards |
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Check this link, it says RDS included. http://dvd.china-direct-buy.com/v/4/..._iPod_RDS.html |
Spot on that Picky, looks a cracking piece of kit that. Get's my attention with the 'simples' plug and play install. Keep them photo's coming with dvb-t install, does the firm in China do a dvb-t option ?
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Very impressed with the looks.
Do you know if it supports dual zone? i.e nav in the front and a dvd on the rear screens at the same time? Looking forward to them appearing on ebay, hope it's not too long. Thanks Andy |
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OK. Thanks for the prompt response.
Right now, it seems you must be the most popular person on these forums. :D:D Cliff |
Gonna charge 50p a question.It'll soon pay for the unit:D
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have you not considered turning yourself red ?
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I think the I pod goes into the rear buy the looks of it.
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Update On First Post |
I am looking for one of these chinese units that has TMC and as a lot of them have RDS (so they say), I thought it must be quite an easy fix to add a TMC module inside and if not, plugged externally into the AUX/USB socket on the front. So, I put this point to the manufacturer of this unit, pointing out that they could make a lot of money from developing a universal external module. This was their reply today:
Thanks for your message. I am Kevin Wang. Sorry this unit can not be with TMC built in or external module. Yes this unit support RDS. For more details please visit our website: www.keenlu.com Any questions feel free to let me know. Best Regards Kevin Wang I live in hope! :sad3: |
75ConSE.I am not dealing with Keenlu. The company I got mine from is Hualingan.
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I believe Keenlu are the manufacturers though, which is why I emailed them. The unit is on their website.
From their homepage: Keenlu Industrial Co., Limited is located in Shenzhen, the special economic zone of China and only half an hour drive to Hongkong. We are a leading manufactuer & wholesaler of car dvd gps players as in-dash 1 din and 2 din car dvd gps, all-in-one special car dvd gps, and other car dvd gps accessories, etc. With technological innovation, advanced quality, punctual delivery, and sincere service, our business has been rapidly and widely expanded to many countries throughout the world..... |
Reading this with increased interest!!
Am I correct in thinking the following: Its touch screen? Its got bluetooth? And if so does the sound come through the speakers? New version will have digital TV tuner built in? It plays DVD's (what region)? Its plays CD's? Can be linked straight into MG ZT / Rover 75 through ISO ports? Where can I buy one from? |
There's at least 3 companies up to now claiming to be the manufacturer.I think they just buy generic parts in and then assemble them in their plant.I went with Hualingan because they offered the best price at $340.Suav want $588 for the same model!
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anyone know about this? |
10th of December, maybe before that, extra $3.00
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I understand they only accept TT and Western Union, Pinky i know you received yours all ok but i've heard warnings about buying using TT and Western Union, does anyone have any advice?
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I have updated the first post with the new information Cathy sent me,just waiting to hear if they can do blue backlighting for the MG guys.I paid using Western Union and had no problem the only downside is there is a charge to do this of £25,however, T/T also incurs similar charges so it's up to the buyer which they prefer to use.The lack of RDS does not bother me as I only have one station on in the car and as for iPod,never had one ,never will own one,a 20p DVD with 40 mp3 albums on does me plus I got a 2gig microSD card to throw any other stuff onto that I may want to listen to.If you own a bluetooth phone that plays mp3 off it's memory card this unit will also play the tracks on your phone wirelessly and the quality is spot on.My daughters jaw nearly hit the floor when I started playing the tunes off her phone through the car speakers!
Figured out how to change the logo to whatever you want so I've got a watercolour of my car as the background when playing CDs.This is not documented in the manual(not much else is either) http://i49.tinypic.com/293ka45.jpg http://i46.tinypic.com/fmkwvr.jpg |
Thanks for answering my earlier question, looks like it will do what I want it to do.
If you don't mind I have another question though. Have you had chance to use the satnav yet, if so how does the unit cope? I have heard that some of the chinese double dins struggle at times. Thanks Andy |
Tried it with the supplied Igo8 and also TomTom and it works just fine with both.
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Thanks once again, think I've made my mind up.
The quality of the unit looks a lot better than the generic one I bought a couple of weeks ago. Just waiting to hear back from them now. Andy |
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Great looking unit, it's just a shame about the lack of TMC on the SAT NAV.
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Certainly looks good - well done for going for it.
Looking at the pics the knobs and buttons seem to fit with the ATC controls. Noticed the picture on their website - RHD car. The ones in December sound even better. |
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Right! Having said earlier that I have been looking for one of these Chinese units with TMC, I have been in touch with Cathy at Hualingan. She has discussed it with the engineers and they say THEY CAN ALSO FIT THIS WITH TMC :D :D :D :D!!!
As Picky said in his updated post, the updated version with DVB-T will be ready by 10th December. I have now asked if it is possible to add a TMC internal module for this date and they said they can do it by then, if not before :D :D :D :D! The new price, which includes the original unit ($345) upgraded to DVB-T ($45), TMC ($40) and p+p (DHL $86) is US$516. Then, you have to add the £25 money transfer fee and of course, there is also the risk of customs adding their cut!! I have been promised an email as soon as it is ready. Can't wait! Dear Santa........! (Cc Mr. Visa!!) |
:drool4: Ja ja ja hebben hebben hebben :drool4:
:drool4:yes yes yes wana wanna wanna :drool4: |
Interesting how different folks want different things out of these units!
For me, the most important would be HDD compatibility, touch screen, interfacing with the steering wheel controls "out of the box", and bluetooth. Middling would be ability to play DVD and TV (nice if it had it, wouldn't be an issue if it didn't). Bottom of the pile is radio reception and RDS (I never listen to the radio and find road traffic info an irritation - guess this depends on where you live/are driving to a degree!) I don't even know what TMC is! :D |
TMC = Traffic Message Channel used in conjecture with SAT NAV it advisee's you on the traffic
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(although in my defence M'lud, even though I am a SatNav convert, I don't do TLA's aka Three Letter Acronyms!!) |
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(bet you have to subscribe for this?!) |
Hello Dave,
No the TMC is free it uses the traffic information from the radio stations, which I have found to be very good, it constantly is updated. If you look at the 4th picture on this tread it will show you the TMC working with traffic probelms. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=47225 |
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As I see it, the problem now is that unless the manufacturers are prepared to make a unit especially to order to satisfy a customers specific requirements then the unit price which includes everything that anyone could want will rise to a point where I for one would be priced out of the market.
I don't want to pay for things I would not want nor use. Picky's original unit with RDS which is how it was advertised even if it didn't work would have done for me and I may have bought one at that price. |
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Think Cathy is very pleased with the 75andzt club I wonder how many of us will buy one.:D |
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Cheers for the follow up info! |
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Graham, am I right in saying the MG logo was only loaded with the SAT NAV? if that is the case it is quite easy to change via the Skin on IGO.
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MMM how did you change it? I have had a look at my unit and can not get into the setup to change the logo.
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Not only technical advisor but also photographer & marketing advisor, because unless I'm very much mistaken, Hualigan website now sports a photo of your install. |
You're right,I sent that pic to Cathy last week.I'll have to get the copyright police onto them.LOL.
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will the dec updated vertion have DAB or is it just digital telly?
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You should be ashamed of yourself - what have you done to the price obtainable for the original fit highline set up where you have 6 boxes in the back and a mile of wiring to run to the front :D I suppose the answer to 'what is the best thing to come out of MG Rovers collapse' is this - I doubt if these would have been produced if the 75/ZT was not being made in China Paul |
Its £340.12 inc transfer fee - priced up from the Western Union website
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Paul says: Hi Cathy. A question about the 8733 (from the Rover 75/MG ZT members forum). The new model will be available with DVB-T and TMC at extra cost. Will these be OPTIONAL extras or will people be able to buy just the basic unit at $345 and TMC if they wish, or the basic unit and DVB-T with no TMC, or will they be able to buy the basic unit only still (after 10th December)? Paul says: What I am trying to say is, can the customer order it to their own specification, with or without the options? I hope I have explained myself OK. cathy--6.2inch7.0inch car dvd -V-6 disc changer memory,PICTURE IN PICTURE FUNCTION says: yes, well noted, yes, the member can only have this model as $345 , dont choose any other functions, and also can choose the TMC, DVB-T by themselves, if choose , add money, if dont, so don't need pay the extra money. So, this is another result. However, I have been asked by Cathy to find out approximate numbers of people that would be interested in this, with or without the options. I will start another thread. |
Hi Paul im up for one with the when you start your thread best wishes woolleysox:D
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A question about the bluetooth - is it possible to dial out with voice commands or some other handsfree?
The square shaped version that I had previously purchased (not yet fitted to car) will only allow you to dial a number by pressing the correct numbers on the touchscreen keypad. Bill C |
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I reckon they owe you a nice commission fee for bringing this product to our attention, if they pay you £1 for every sale they make from your lead, the unit will be paid for by Christmas |
couple more pics to show match with the dash lights and the new logo I did.
http://i48.tinypic.com/vfzj43.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/657uhl.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/eas702.jpg |
Rather excellent.
Now to get someone making stickers to cover them to match the interior triming! |
WOW!! That is the muts ****! Guess you had better get a 'how-to' ready for how to change the logo! Well done for all your leg work on the unit by the way.
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The logo secret will be sold at 50p a time I've got to pay for it somehow.:D
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Also your unit now looks excellent now you have got rid of that rubbish MG logo :D |
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Looking on Wikipedia it says that in the UK it is a subscribed service - is this the case or is it free? Paul |
Have you tried to connect the System to a Notebook ? This would make it easier to update or configure the system i think. Maybe it should work via the USB connection ?
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No USB computer connection but I have had the unit to pieces and there is a serial port connection on the main board.
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I keep asking and I know aesthetics matter and functionality, BUT how does it sound?
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So it solves the puny bass problem on the standard symphony models as well? This unit just gets better and better |
Hi Paul,
There is no subscription charge in the UK if you want the premium TMC then it is chargeable, but you do not need it, it is free from the local radio stations, I have the TMC on my head unit and on my PDA (just in case I use another car) and it works very well. Quote:
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i have been reading the thread on tother side and it would appear aprice hike is in the offering. You can now pay by Pay pal but it carries an 40usd charge!.
http://hnmqjtimlu.diytrade.com/sdp/7...GPS_BT_TV.html |
wow looks really kool ,i want one ,dear santa i have been a good boy this year :D
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ht_2687wt_1006
This seller will be putting up the MG DVD next week for GBP320.00, still not as cheap as from Cathy but postage will be free and it will be through Paypal. |
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not the unit, just the seller, he has not put the unit up yet.
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if customs get hold of it what would the likely charge extra be??
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A couple of weeks ago I got charged £26 on a £200 double din £11 of that was the courier surcharge so the actual customs charge didn't even cover the vat. The next week a £70 package came through with no charges at all. Last year though I got charged over £80 on a £450 camera lens, still cheaper than buying it here though. It does seem to be a bit hit and miss. Andy |
Does any one know if the steering wheel controls only work with infra red because I have a jack plug to the back of my Kenwood stereo. I know most owners have the infra red set-up.
Bit late now I know as it's ordered and paid for, but I wonder if the infra red sensors can be bought at X Part etc? Nick. |
Nick, I belive the steering wheel controls are via a plug at the back as with the symphoney / iso set up.
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What about warranty or contact in case of technical issues / problems ? Do you have to send it back to China....:shrug:
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Picky says on the 'other side' that he does'nt have IR sensor and has no issues, so should be OK Nick. John |
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Wierd though as the Kenwood system on my facelift 190 doesnt have IR. |
Has anyone tried Mio Pocket on this unit?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4rqqWTXaA Also tried Miomap on this today and does not work because of the resolution of the screen,had to tweak a few files but then the touch screen went a bit haywire so it's back to TomTom for now. |
One for a LHD please :)
Hi all,
I'm watching this thread with mighty interest, and probably wait until after xmas to order a unit too. I've got a 75 saloon high line sat/tv and premium sound HK factory fitted, and as I understand it, it will not be a plug & play to the harman kardon amp as it works with speaker level line in's? Can it be used/hacked to receive RCA's instead? or would it work with a RCA to speaker loom "adapter" ? Any info will be much appreciated. Kind regards from Portugal |
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well then, it seems that I will lighten my car by several kg (4:3 module, tv module, gps module...) anything to cover the hole in the boot when I remove the gps? regards. |
All sounds very interesting.....
Just a few questions. Does the system come with DAB as well, for the ultimate in future proofing? What is the Sat Nav software it comes with like, and how upgradeable is it? Someone mentioned Tom Tom - is this an extra you can add? Will the unit control an external cd changer? I guess the trip computer on the current Hi Line system I have will be lost. I notice from one of the youtube clips (the Mazda one) that the system had a lot of chinese text on it - presumably this is easy to change! Can't wait to get one..... |
The guy selling them on eBay has stated that if you provide the logo they will put the Rover one on.
They also stated that they can provide the firmware so you can flash your own. |
You can put any logo on yourself.Here's one I did earlier,however, a copy of the firmware would come in very handy.
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@picky747 - What additional antenna did you have to install? I presume the existing FM/AM antenna in the rear window is retained. But what about for GPS and TV?
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