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markypicks 7th October 2020 07:47

kkb101923
 
can anyone help i am looking for a top engine mount for a 2 litre rover 75 diesel engine i have been told by steve ( artic) that i need this part kkb101923 but i cannot find a brand new one only at rimmers at 119 quid (ain't happening). on e bay there is a listing for this part but it is kkb101914 for the 2 litre petrol and 2.5 v6 i've also tried to been sold a kkb101903 which is the 1.8 petrol can any one advise me as the people i speak to says that the original diesel one is no longer available there are some used one but i'm cautious any suggestions rgds mark

tantallon 7th October 2020 08:11

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-75-DI...anner=1&_rdt=1

Arctic 7th October 2020 09:42

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Originally Posted by tantallon (Post 2840953)


Hi Would question ECP with regards to this mount having KKB101914 on in their words ( Please note there is a part number KKB101914 stamped into the rubber which the petrol part number

there is only 1 set of tooling used for petrol & diesel mounts.)

Because if that is the case then we may as well fit these they are cheaper than ECP. :shrug:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-75-...-/272730760988




ECP also say the same for the lower engine mount, Stating it now as a letter M on it instead of the letter T. saying one mould etc ? what happened did they throw away all the diesel mount moulds :eek:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-R....c100008.m2219

Its open to abuse in my opinion, extra cost but same mounts as petrol which are cheaper by nature.

Devils in the detail so the saying goes, so whenever buying anything read the listing then read it again.

FrattonEnder 7th October 2020 14:14

Have you tried DMGRS? I'm sure I had an email recently saying they got engine mounts in, or due in soon.

steve-45 7th October 2020 15:18

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Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2840976)



ECP also say the same for the lower engine mount, Stating it now as a letter M on it instead of the letter T. saying one mould etc ? what happened did they throw away all the diesel mount moulds :eek:

What sometimes happens with mould tools where the part is the same physical size just different grades of materials, is they have removable inserts for part numbers etc. It could just be as simple as they have lost the inserts when / if they relocated the tooling to an alternative moulded.

genpk 8th October 2020 09:57

just get a poly bush and be done with it, last for a long time.

DMGRS 8th October 2020 17:26

I had the same part DMGRS sell now for 50,000 miles on my own ZT-T - was absolutely fine, and stopped my annoying cabin rattle. :)

Arctic 30th March 2022 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2840976)
Hi Would question ECP with regards to this mount having KKB101914 on in their words ( Please note there is a part number KKB101914 stamped into the rubber which the petrol part number

there is only 1 set of tooling used for petrol & diesel mounts.)

Quote:

Because if that is the case then we may as well fit these they are cheaper than ECP. :shrug:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-75-...-/272730760988



ECP also say the same for the lower engine mount, Stating it now as a letter M on it instead of the letter T. saying one mould etc ? what happened did they throw away all the diesel mount moulds :eek:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-R....c100008.m2219

Its open to abuse in my opinion, extra cost but same mounts as petrol which are cheaper by nature.

Quote:

Devils in the detail so the saying goes, so whenever buying anything read the listing then read it again.

Just to bring this into focus the mounts i have highlighted above will not fit the diesel as they are 15mm to high once in the holding cage on the front arm.

I found this out recently when i went to fit one to my tourer, unless someone knows different.

Original to the left.

https://i.imgur.com/dpMzlqEl.jpg1

https://i.imgur.com/jofaum8l.jpg2

The mount fits into the alloy cage on the diesel.
https://i.imgur.com/Br7jTIKl.jpg3

https://i.imgur.com/9SsYdJ6l.jpg4

The height difference would throw the engine higher on that side by 15mm in my opinion as anyone fitted one of these to a diesel without any problem ?

Rimmers mount but then state below.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-KKB101923

This part has been supersededUse KKB101914
Which is a petrol mount for 2.0 and 2.5 which is why its higher as it does not sit in a cage, it sits on the front chassis arm

Petrol mount fitting.
https://i.imgur.com/113TBqfl.jpg5

As opposed to the diesel mount.
https://i.imgur.com/ZgLE0T5l.jpg6

macafee2 30th March 2022 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2926224)
Just to bring this into focus the mounts i have highlighted above will not fit the diesel as they are 15mm to high once in the holding cage on the front arm.

I found this out recently when i went to fit one to my tourer, unless someone knows different.

Original to the left.

https://i.imgur.com/dpMzlqEl.jpg1

https://i.imgur.com/jofaum8l.jpg2

The mount fits into the alloy cage on the diesel.
https://i.imgur.com/Br7jTIKl.jpg3

https://i.imgur.com/9SsYdJ6l.jpg4

The height difference would throw the engine higher on that side by 15mm in my opinion as anyone fitted one of these to a diesel without any problem ?

Rimmers mount but then state below.
https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-KKB101923

This part has been supersededUse KKB101914
Which is a petrol mount for 2.0 and 2.5 which is why its higher as it does not sit in a cage, it sits on the front chassis arm

Petrol mount fitting.
https://i.imgur.com/113TBqfl.jpg5

As opposed to the diesel mount.
https://i.imgur.com/ZgLE0T5l.jpg6

If using KKB101914 on a diesel, does one do away with the metal housing so it is the right height? Do I assume the original mount that fits into the housing is KKB101923?

macafee2

macafee2 30th March 2022 12:05

Artic, in your post 8 top picture, please could you tell me/us the distance from from the bottom of the mount to the top of the rubber?
That way we will not if what we get is correct or not

thank you

macafee2


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