Rover 75 diagnostic softs and tools

iviksna · 25th November 2006, 17:53

Personally I think that Rover 75 is one of the most beautiful cars ever build, but many people think that its not so. The result of all this is that in my country we dont have professionals that can do diagnostic of Rover 75. In this case we decided to offer to our Rover clients diagnostic service and repair. In this case we are looking for information: what softs can/must be used in Rover 75 diagnostic, what sockets are used? From the first look it seems that Rover uses BMW system. Is it so? Or Rover uses its own?

Mike · 25th November 2006, 18:01

Hi and welcome to the club

The short answer to your question is that the best kit to get hold of is the original Dealer diagnostic hardware and software, called Testbook (not a BMW system though the car does use a lotr of BMW electronics)

Either that or there is aftermarket diagnostic equipment that will do all that Testbook did. However it is not cheap!

I am moving this thread to tech help where Keith, our resident diagnostics guru, will be able to tell you all about the things you can buy

Hew will be around soon -he's never far away

Again welcome - feel free to ask any questions you have.

Mike

Phil · 25th November 2006, 18:01

Rover's own diagnostic computer is called testbook, similar to landrovers I believe, I don't think its anything similar to BMW. I think they use a 16 pin connector above the pedals, (on a right hand drive car, maybe same for left hand drive) Where in the world are you?

Ken · 25th November 2006, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Phil

Where in the world are you?

Its Latvia Phil

iviksna · 25th November 2006, 18:13

Exactly:lol: :lol: :lol:

GreyGhost · 25th November 2006, 18:17

Hello iviksna

And a very warm welcome to you, glad to see you took my advice and came to visit. You will get all the information you need here, we have a lot of experts not all here right now but they will be along

DeeCee · 25th November 2006, 18:27

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Originally Posted by iviksna

Personally I think that Rover 75 is one of the most beautiful cars ever build, but many people think that its not so. The result of all this is that in my country we dont have professionals that can do diagnostic of Rover 75. In this case we decided to offer to our Rover clients diagnostic service and repair. In this case we are looking for information: what softs can/must be used in Rover 75 diagnostic, what sockets are used? From the first look it seems that Rover uses BMW system. Is it so? Or Rover uses its own?

Check out Rover Ron pages.....
http://45zs.info/Eobd/eobd.htm

Look at last paragraph

Keith · 25th November 2006, 18:34

Actually I have been climbing Castles all day and tomorrow I am going to look at an Artillery Gun and Tank Transporter in a local farm yard

whilst looking at a CDT needing some repairs!

right Iviksna
diag tools depends on how much you want to spend there is nothing cheap that I know of on the market that can read all the cars ECUs to enable proper fault finding.

I fixed an early Testbook (a T1) which can be used 95% of the time but it can not do full car coding and does not work on my V8

Testbook, T4 can be bought in a Lite format for £3495 from Omitec but they insist on selling you an all in one package including laptop and support contract, you should buy this if you intend to maintain many cars as it will do everything from one data CD plus with other CDs you can do the ZS, ZR, 25, 45, MGF etc and with a different version of the Tesbook application software you can do Landrovers as well e.g the Freelander

The next best thing is Rovacom lite this will cost you around £750 to get the hardware and engine ECU software but if you want to check other ECU's Airbags, ABS, Cruise Control, BCU, instrument Cluster etc you have to buy additional software modules which can make it expensive.
http://www.rovacomlite.com/

two other systems worth considering although I have never seen either are
DEC superscan II
http://www.mavericktechnology.co.uk/....co.uk/dec.htm

and the Launch X-431
http://www.rwmotortec.com/launchx431/

None are cheap though, one day (soon) I hope we will have a realistic DIY alternative. If not I may end up building one myself which is not completely out of the question

Kandyman · 25th November 2006, 19:04

Welcome to the forum and club iviksna

Good luck with your efforts to help/look after peoples ROVER 75's

Roverron · 26th November 2006, 15:05

Sykes Pickavant (Facom) ACR4 with a Rover V4 pod will enable you to do basic diagnostics of all the Rover engines, abs and srs (on some models).

It can display fault codes, reset the MIL and service counters, and test some components such as a/c fan speeds, egr actuator, glow plug relay etc.

Its the cheapest one that's compatible with the diesels.

Any OBD2 code reader will work on the petrol engined models from 2000.

Ron

25th November 2006, 17:53	#1
iviksna Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rover 75 diagnostic softs and tools Personally I think that Rover 75 is one of the most beautiful cars ever build, but many people think that its not so. The result of all this is that in my country we dont have professionals that can do diagnostic of Rover 75. In this case we decided to offer to our Rover clients diagnostic service and repair. In this case we are looking for information: what softs can/must be used in Rover 75 diagnostic, what sockets are used? From the first look it seems that Rover uses BMW system. Is it so? Or Rover uses its own?

25th November 2006, 18:01	#2
Mike This is my second home Rover 75 V8 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,448 Thanks: 0 Thanked 206 Times in 32 Posts	Hi and welcome to the club The short answer to your question is that the best kit to get hold of is the original Dealer diagnostic hardware and software, called Testbook (not a BMW system though the car does use a lotr of BMW electronics) Either that or there is aftermarket diagnostic equipment that will do all that Testbook did. However it is not cheap! I am moving this thread to tech help where Keith, our resident diagnostics guru, will be able to tell you all about the things you can buy Hew will be around soon -he's never far away Again welcome - feel free to ask any questions you have. Mike __________________ Mike [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

25th November 2006, 18:01	#3
Phil This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Connoisseur SE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 12,227 Thanks: 469 Thanked 523 Times in 241 Posts	Rover's own diagnostic computer is called testbook, similar to landrovers I believe, I don't think its anything similar to BMW. I think they use a 16 pin connector above the pedals, (on a right hand drive car, maybe same for left hand drive) Where in the world are you? __________________

25th November 2006, 18:34	#8
Keith This is my second home ZT400 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellesmere Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts	Actually I have been climbing Castles all day and tomorrow I am going to look at an Artillery Gun and Tank Transporter in a local farm yard whilst looking at a CDT needing some repairs! right Iviksna diag tools depends on how much you want to spend there is nothing cheap that I know of on the market that can read all the cars ECUs to enable proper fault finding. I fixed an early Testbook (a T1) which can be used 95% of the time but it can not do full car coding and does not work on my V8 Testbook, T4 can be bought in a Lite format for £3495 from Omitec but they insist on selling you an all in one package including laptop and support contract, you should buy this if you intend to maintain many cars as it will do everything from one data CD plus with other CDs you can do the ZS, ZR, 25, 45, MGF etc and with a different version of the Tesbook application software you can do Landrovers as well e.g the Freelander The next best thing is Rovacom lite this will cost you around £750 to get the hardware and engine ECU software but if you want to check other ECU's Airbags, ABS, Cruise Control, BCU, instrument Cluster etc you have to buy additional software modules which can make it expensive. http://www.rovacomlite.com/ two other systems worth considering although I have never seen either are DEC superscan II http://www.mavericktechnology.co.uk/....co.uk/dec.htm and the Launch X-431 http://www.rwmotortec.com/launchx431/ None are cheap though, one day (soon) I hope we will have a realistic DIY alternative. If not I may end up building one myself which is not completely out of the question Last edited by Keith; 25th November 2006 at 19:11..

26th November 2006, 15:05	#10
Roverron Gets stuck in Rover Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tarbert Posts: 980 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 9 Posts	Sykes Pickavant (Facom) ACR4 with a Rover V4 pod will enable you to do basic diagnostics of all the Rover engines, abs and srs (on some models). It can display fault codes, reset the MIL and service counters, and test some components such as a/c fan speeds, egr actuator, glow plug relay etc. Its the cheapest one that's compatible with the diesels. Any OBD2 code reader will work on the petrol engined models from 2000. Ron __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Click to visit my website Ron on Twitter MyFacebook page

25th November 2006, 18:13	#5
iviksna Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Exactly:lol: :lol: :lol:

25th November 2006, 18:17	#6
GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	Hello iviksna And a very warm welcome to you, glad to see you took my advice and came to visit. You will get all the information you need here, we have a lot of experts not all here right now but they will be along

25th November 2006, 19:04	#9
Kandyman Banned ROVER 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE Limousine 2004 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Welling Posts: 10,995 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Welcome to the forum and club iviksna Good luck with your efforts to help/look after peoples ROVER 75's