Changing Alpine Low-Line in High-Line SATNAV

[damydyo1]

Originally Posted by Keith

CO982 here
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...79&postcount=7

It will be floating around in your exiting loom somewhere and depeding how old you car is it may have several wires in it

my V8 and K bus reversing switch ABS signal and the steering wheel control wires iirc

Keith,

I succeeded in all the connections exept these ones. Do you have experience how to fix this. I made an attachment of the electrical circuit diagram in wich they occur.

Interface K-bus (V106):
C0395-10 to C1245-2 speed dependant volume signal
C0395-17 to C1245-5 not used?

C1245-3 to A211 ?
C1245-6 to A165 earth I believe

CD auto changer (F102):
C0941-6 to C0830-1 CD audio left +
C0941-1 to C0830-2 CD audio right +
C0941-7 to C0830-6 CD audio left
C0941-2 to C0830-7 CD audio left

C0941-8 to A165 earth
C0941-5 to C0295-16 header (K106)
C0941-10 to C0295-4 header (K106)

Monitor-bord (D185):
C0816 to A172 ?

What I have now tested and working is:

- radio
- televison
- navigation

The High Line is fully operational exept for the steering wheel controls and the CD changer.

BTW Keith, my english is rather poor and I don't know what you mean by "iirc"
I must thank you for the little leads you gave me. It helped me a lot thinking about what I did wrong. So I checked almost every diagram from Low LIne to High Line. But this amateur is very happy now that the High Line is alive after three days hard work. The Low Line has become more and more history

Hope you can help me out with this.

Regards Ralph

[Keith]

The CD changer has seven wires four are audio L & R + & - but I don't know which so that needs trial an error the other three are +12V Ground and K bus

For the steering wheel controls have you got the Interface box

[JohnDotCom]

Originally Posted by damydyo1

BTW Keith, my english is rather poor and I don't know what you mean by "iirc"

iirc = If I remember Corectly
or If I Recall Correctly
or Image and Identity Research Collective (not usually this in our Context)

[damydyo1]

Originally Posted by Keith

The CD changer has seven wires four are audio L & R + & - but I don't know which so that needs trial an error the other three are +12V Ground and K bus

For the steering wheel controls have you got the Interface box

Keith,

Yes I do have it, partnumber YWQ100031 brandnew from Xparts. But I don't have the bracket for it yet (minor detail)
The problem is that my CD changer is in the glove box with indeed seven wires wich all end in my old connector C0983 of the low line. Not compatible with connector C0830 from the the radio wich is in the boot and there is only one possibility to connect the CD changer on it by C0830 wich I don't have.

The four wires left and right + & - I can understand and solve the problem maybe by lengthen it to the boot. But the other three on the diagram are connected to the header (2x) and monitor bord (1x) wich I can't follow.
Both connectors from the header (C0295) and CD changer (C0941) are not in included within the manual.

BTW I left my old loom of the low line in the car. It was to much work to get rid of it because of all its sideway connections. Shame on me but no one will notice that. I might want to use some existing wires from it wich leads all to the boot for the C0830 connection but I don't dare to do it, because I will damage a part of it.

Any suggestion?

Here are some pictures of the current status:

Back to school


The Interface K-bus with cable


TV module didn't fit on its place because of my LPG tank in the spare wheel room so I had to mount it here


Bracket for the radio module in place


Peeling off my existing GPS antenna cable from the old Low Line loom


Leading the loom from the boot sideways to the dash




At last I reached the front


Later on I will post some piccys when it's finished. That's all for now fooks! :lol:

[damydyo1]

It has been worth all effort, but I had some major problems in the beginning.

At first nothing worked at all when I connected my new high loom to the iso adapted loom wich on their turn were connected to the iso connectors in my dash. If you have not all the functions provided in your iso then you should do the same as I did. I connected my new loom with the C0395 directly on the C0981. After that my high line started to breath with:

- radio
- TV
- navigation

The next thing I had to work out was connecting my CD changer wich is in the glove box. The kufatec connectors they gave me, weren't right. So I had to make a rather unprofessional solution.

This is the CD changer plug beneath my glove box


They end all up to C0983 (blue) in my dash. There are 7 wires. I put 7 pins into it and 4 of them I had to lead to C0830 at the back of my radio unit.


Having the electrical diagram at hand I used a 4 wire colored cable for 2x audio left (+/-) and 2x audio right (+/-) The other three I put one on 12 V permanent feed, one on earth and one was for the K-bus connection


Having done that I had audio from my CD changer. Not at first trial because I put one pin wrong, but that was solved after I checked everything.

Now I had to mount the interface K-bus behind the head unit, but some of you know I didnt had the specific bracket for it so I fixed it with tie rips.


The connector for the K-bus I got from Kufatec of which they said was for my CD changer. Anyway, I connected the four wires as the electrical diagram showed to C0082 under the steering column


The other ends I connected to earth from the monitor-bord and as leading K-bus wire foor all components and header. Here is where I went wrong I think, because I put it on a WRY colored wire from C0981


I was ready to organize all the cables in the dash and at first it looked rather chaotic but all went well with tie rips and tape.


Closing my dash I worried about the functionality of the K-bus. would it work? And what about the rotary coupler, switch reverse and ECU-ABS? But as you all can see these were the results as I finished the dash.

Radio functions OK


Tape functions OK


CD functions OK


Navigation OK


TV no signal because of the missing analog signal in Holland, but seems to work I hope in foreign countries


Later on I finished everything with the covers in front and in the boot


My Low Line (Symphony with SatNav and MKII GPS) set is now history and are for sale. The loom is still in the car and I have to figure out how to get rid of it. It is a lot work to get it out of the car and sell it completely with the Low Line set.


After the first test drive everything was in fine order, only for the K-bus where I was afraid for. The speed dependant volume signal did not respond and the remote controls also. Maybe someone has a suggestion?

Also the connection for the switch-reverse and ECU-ABS are important ones. You will find them on the six pins connector C0982 wich you realy have to look for in the dash as shown at the picture below.


I would like to end with: Don't try this at home. Miracles take more time. But I'm glad the system works for 95% and maybe this thread has been a little help for the one who didn't dare to do this but might consider it over. I think some of you would give it a try regarding the 1580 views on this thread.......

It has been a pleasure to inform all of you. Special credit goes to Johndotcom and Keith who made it possible for me to do this! Till the following project.

Cheers Ralph

[damydyo1]

Hello guys,

It's been a while but I could still need some help or any reply on what I did wrong with the connection on my K-bus. Everything works exept:

- remote controle audio steering wheel
- speed volume

Regards Ralph

[Greeners]

Well done Ralph.

I'm about to embark on a similar project, except I've got the original loom............

[damydyo1]

Hello David,

Did you get the loom new or from a breaker. I would like to see the original loom. Do you have some piccy's for me and did you had any progress until now?

Regards Ralph

[Greeners]

Originally Posted by damydyo1

Hello David,

Did you get the loom new or from a breaker. I would like to see the original loom. Do you have some piccy's for me and did you had any progress until now?

Regards Ralph

I've managed to get a complete set up from a 2000 car. Let me know what pictures you want and I'll take them and post them up.

[damydyo1]

Originally Posted by Greeners

I've managed to get a complete set up from a 2000 car. Let me know what pictures you want and I'll take them and post them up.

Hello David,

Please some visuals of:

- the whole loom
- separate connectors to:
* Head unit
* Interface K-bus
* CD changer
* Radio module
* TV-module
* antenna"s
* GPS module
* the two separate wires to C0982 for "ECU-ABS" and "Switch Reverse"

Was this thread usefull for you David, or do you have some questions or suggestions, because I noticed a lot of members have read it but you are the first who is actualy starting it all up?

cheers Ralph