Go Back   The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums > The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums > Technical Help Forum
Register FAQ Image Gallery Members List Calendar
Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 16th November 2017, 11:51   #11
Greeners
Moderator
 
Greeners's Avatar
 
MG-ZTT

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ware, Herts
Posts: 19,798
Thanks: 161
Thanked 1,249 Times in 1,036 Posts
Default

try an injector leakback test then.....
Greeners is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th November 2017, 11:53   #12
Ravinder
This is my second home
 
Ravinder's Avatar
 
Rover 75 saloon x2, Rover 75 Tourer x2, Rover 220 Coupe Turbo

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife
Posts: 9,038
Thanks: 2,278
Thanked 2,852 Times in 1,718 Posts
Default

Possible MAF sensor?
__________________
Wanted - Indian bride. Cash waiting. (All sorted - bargain)





First name and forum name: Ravinder

Rover 75 2.0 CDT Connoisseur SE 116 (160 remap)
Royal Blue (JFM)

This vehicle was the 50,481st 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381
This vehicle was the 2,238th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE to be made out of 3,775
This vehicle was the 5,002nd 75 in Royal Blue (code: JFM) to be made out of 14,420 Royal Blue 75s
Ravinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th November 2017, 16:30   #13
COLVERT
This is my second home
 
R75 Saloon.

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: France/or Devon.
Posts: 14,003
Thanks: 3,851
Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts
Default

Cam or crank sensor.--
COLVERT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th November 2017, 17:18   #14
oscarsaudio
Regular poster
 
rover 75 tourer 2.0 cdt

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: essex
Posts: 98
Thanks: 34
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by COLVERT View Post
Cam or crank sensor.--
I reckon the same , not sure why your not being listened to
oscarsaudio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th November 2017, 17:31   #15
Mike Noc
This is my second home
 
Mike Noc's Avatar
 
Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4.

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 11,578
Thanks: 3,470
Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts
Default

A failing crank sensor can cause both running and starting problems as the ECM uses the crank sensor signal to time the fuel injection.

A failing cam sensor can cause starting problems but can't have any effect once the engine has started as the ECM ignores the signal after the initial start reference until the engine starts again.

I'd agree with Greeners though - worth carrying out an injector leak back test to rule out any failing injectors.











.

Last edited by Mike Noc; 16th November 2017 at 17:40..
Mike Noc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th November 2017, 19:02   #16
jeremy
Avid contributor
 
Rover 75 Tourer

Join Date: May 2013
Location: Limerick
Posts: 106
Thanks: 71
Thanked 24 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Listening to everyone and thanks. Tomorrow will attend to crank sensor and maf suggestions as far as I can. Jeremy
jeremy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th November 2017, 19:26   #17
Ennine
Posted a thing or two
 
Ford

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Portmahomack
Posts: 1,330
Thanks: 545
Thanked 317 Times in 193 Posts
Default

Have you checked that the UBP is running when it won't start. The fact that it runs otherwise does not rule it out as the problem.

Nige
__________________
Ni9e

How to: Replace touch screen Navall II



[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Ennine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th February 2018, 11:35   #18
jeremy
Avid contributor
 
Rover 75 Tourer

Join Date: May 2013
Location: Limerick
Posts: 106
Thanks: 71
Thanked 24 Times in 16 Posts
Default

I just want to thank everybody who made valuable suggestions and to close off the thread.

Based on advice, I purchased a new in-tank pump and had it fitted by my local mechanic (who is excellent). However it did not solve the problem and the car struggled on until the new year, making a number of family trips to Dublin and frequently going into what seemed like limp-home mode. A few weeks ago I found a guy in Limerick with sufficient diagnostic equipment to rule out an electrical/electronic problem and to identify the fault as connected to fuel pressure. I then took it across to Portlaoise, about 100km away, to a very good family outfit called Portlaoise Diesel Injection who were strongly recommended by my mechanic. They connected their diagnostic equipment which identified a pre-injection fault, thus ruling out the injectors themselves. Bernard fiddled around under the bonnet for a few minutes before his unerring fingers lighted on the under bonnet pump, which he wiggled and which stopped pumping properly. A few more repeats of this 'test' confirmed the source as this pump which nobody had suspected to be the culprit as they apparently don't often go wrong.

A quick delivery from E car parts Ltd in Bedforshire to the garage saw the car fixed and beautifully driveable once more (especially as I had also had a new thermostat fitted during this period and the car was as warm as toast again).

In all the labour at various places set me back only 135 Euro and the parts were regular advertised UK prices plus postage. So I am pretty pleased as I love the Rover and glad not to be totally dependent on my little MGF during this cold weather.

One accidental consequence is that I have a spare working in-tank pump which looks pretty good to me. If anybody is looking for one and is prepared to pay the postage, I would be prepared to make it available.

Thanks again to everyone and if there is a lesson to be learned, check the under bonnet pump first by wiggling it about while starting the engine as that is the easiest and cheapest test to do.

Regards Jeremy
jeremy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 9th February 2018, 12:40   #19
Avulon
This is my second home
 
1.8t Tourer

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tanelorn
Posts: 4,830
Thanks: 956
Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts
Default

And the remote diagnostic of quarter award goes to.....


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennine View Post
Have you checked that the UBP is running when it won't start. The fact that it runs otherwise does not rule it out as the problem.

Nige

Glad to see you've finally got a happy resolution.
__________________
Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk)

Where?:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn
Mods/Retrofits:

PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors
To do:
puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button
Avulon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th February 2018, 00:22   #20
Arctic
Give to Learn
 
Arctic's Avatar
 
Freelander 2

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 18,807
Thanks: 1,155
Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts
Default Under Bonnet Fuel Pump

I change an UBFP for the same reasons on a local owners car today, once these under bonnet fuel pumps start to fail replace asap other wise you could get stranded in the middle of nowhere.

Use and replace with only the pierburg in my opinion and also change the fuel filter at the same time Arctic.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg SDC13784.jpg (122.4 KB, 28 views)
File Type: jpg SDC13787.jpg (123.1 KB, 24 views)
__________________
Arctic
Givology Learn to Give
Everything is Achievable

ad altiora tendo.

Check out our Nano meet dates
http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto

" You do the work , we supply the expertise "
Arctic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:46.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2006-2023, The Rover 75 & MG ZT Owners Club Ltd