Coding a second hand ABS Pump with TOAF

bearhouse · 27th April 2024, 12:00

Hi All again,

I have bought a second hand ABS pump for my 2.5 V6 with traction control. I've had mixed opinions as to whether it needs to be coded to my car? I'm told this can be done using the VIN section of TOAF. The VIN section gives the option to copy from EWS, BCU, IPK, SMAC, JATCO, LCM SRS and EMS. What option do I want? I presume I connect the new pump and then copy from what to what?

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Terry.

StewartIngram · 27th April 2024, 12:31

I've changed cars twice since (identical models), but when I had problems with my ABS pump years ago, I just swapped it, no calibration was necessary. I assume you are talking about the one under thebattery on a KV6?; or did I miss something?

bearhouse · 27th April 2024, 13:11

Yes, the ABS pump under the battery.

vitesse · 27th April 2024, 13:20

You're on the right track, VIN tools, copy from any module which has the original VIN, my choice would be the IPK as that is copy proof, to the ABS module.

Check first by looking at the VIN information in the ABS section, if the original is still fitted. Fit the new one, then copy and see that the "new" ABS has the same VIN as the old one, and indeed other modules.

Regards

bearhouse · 27th April 2024, 13:41

Many thanks for that. So effectively, all you’re doing is programming the VIN number to the replacement ABS? And you can copy the VIN from any module to the ABS? Is ABS shown as a copy to destination or is it one of these EWS, BCO, IPK, SMAC, JATCO, LCM, SRS, EMS?

vitesse · 27th April 2024, 14:34

If the existing ABS module has a VIN number shown by Toaf, then I'd be surprised if the ABS module is not listed in the VIN tools menu. (It's none of the modules you have listed).

Yes you're just copying the VIN to the replacement ABS module, and while you can copy from any of the menu modules, you should be sure that the module you select is original and as the IPK is tamperproof, I'd use that.

Good luck

bearhouse · 27th April 2024, 14:47

The original ABS doesn’t have a VIN number stored so that implies no programming is required?

SD1too · 27th April 2024, 17:06

Terry,

I've looked in RAVE's technical description and repair manual and can find no mention that the ABS modulator needs to be configured to the car.

Simon

vitesse · 27th April 2024, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearhouse

The original ABS doesn’t have a VIN number stored so that implies no programming is required?

Sure does. I've got to check a fan tomorrow with Toaf, I'll have a look at the ABS while I'm there and if it has a VIN I'll get back to you.

Regards

StewartIngram · 28th April 2024, 07:46

Like I said earlier, I changed the ABS module on my mk1 for a 2nd hand one, no programming (I never even thought about that being needed). Cleared my original fault (cable contacts if I remember correctly?) straight away and lasted a few years until I stripped the car. The module remains stored in my shed.

27th April 2024, 12:00	#1
bearhouse Regular poster Rover 75 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Herts Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Coding a second hand ABS Pump with TOAF Hi All again, I have bought a second hand ABS pump for my 2.5 V6 with traction control. I've had mixed opinions as to whether it needs to be coded to my car? I'm told this can be done using the VIN section of TOAF. The VIN section gives the option to copy from EWS, BCU, IPK, SMAC, JATCO, LCM SRS and EMS. What option do I want? I presume I connect the new pump and then copy from what to what? Any advice greatly appreciated. Regards, Terry. Last edited by bearhouse; 27th April 2024 at 12:04..

27th April 2024, 17:06	#8
SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,430 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	Terry, I've looked in RAVE's technical description and repair manual and can find no mention that the ABS modulator needs to be configured to the car. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.

27th April 2024, 12:31	#2
StewartIngram Gets stuck in Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.5 V6 auto Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire Posts: 910 Thanks: 320 Thanked 159 Times in 127 Posts	I've changed cars twice since (identical models), but when I had problems with my ABS pump years ago, I just swapped it, no calibration was necessary. I assume you are talking about the one under thebattery on a KV6?; or did I miss something?

27th April 2024, 13:11	#3
bearhouse Regular poster Rover 75 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Herts Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, the ABS pump under the battery.

27th April 2024, 13:20	#4
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,538 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	You're on the right track, VIN tools, copy from any module which has the original VIN, my choice would be the IPK as that is copy proof, to the ABS module. Check first by looking at the VIN information in the ABS section, if the original is still fitted. Fit the new one, then copy and see that the "new" ABS has the same VIN as the old one, and indeed other modules. Regards

27th April 2024, 13:41	#5
bearhouse Regular poster Rover 75 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Herts Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many thanks for that. So effectively, all you’re doing is programming the VIN number to the replacement ABS? And you can copy the VIN from any module to the ABS? Is ABS shown as a copy to destination or is it one of these EWS, BCO, IPK, SMAC, JATCO, LCM, SRS, EMS?

27th April 2024, 14:34	#6
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,538 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	If the existing ABS module has a VIN number shown by Toaf, then I'd be surprised if the ABS module is not listed in the VIN tools menu. (It's none of the modules you have listed). Yes you're just copying the VIN to the replacement ABS module, and while you can copy from any of the menu modules, you should be sure that the module you select is original and as the IPK is tamperproof, I'd use that. Good luck

27th April 2024, 14:47	#7
bearhouse Regular poster Rover 75 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Herts Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The original ABS doesn’t have a VIN number stored so that implies no programming is required?

28th April 2024, 07:46	#10
StewartIngram Gets stuck in Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.5 V6 auto Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire Posts: 910 Thanks: 320 Thanked 159 Times in 127 Posts	Like I said earlier, I changed the ABS module on my mk1 for a 2nd hand one, no programming (I never even thought about that being needed). Cleared my original fault (cable contacts if I remember correctly?) straight away and lasted a few years until I stripped the car. The module remains stored in my shed.