Diesel non starter

Mark Heappey · 20th September 2017, 18:08

Hi guys need some help. Parked my diesel conny up at my mums 2 weeks ago and my brother has tried to move it a couple of days ago but engine will not turn over. Bought new battery and now fitted but still no joy in starting. Engine is still not turning over but everything else is working fine. Pumps running normally, plenty of fuel etc. Not had any previous symptoms of non starting and unfortunately I am away on holiday and relying on my brother to attempt to fix the problem. Anyone got any ideas

He has arranged for RAC to come tomorrow but hoped someone might be able to point him in the right direction.

Many thanks
Mark

steve-45 · 20th September 2017, 18:17

Sound like it may possibly be a starter motor problem - the contacts are a known failure point.

Mark Heappey · 20th September 2017, 19:47

Thanks for the info, will let my brother know and he can tell the RAC tomorrow.

Davy · 20th September 2017, 20:42

If everything is working as normal e.g. pumps running etc but won`t turn over is the car an automatic and is not in park or neutral as this would stop the engine turning and starting.

Davy

ZedTeeT · 20th September 2017, 20:51

I believe our cars can suffer a problem with the immobiliser code if they're repeatedly tried to start with a flat battery. I think they can loose the code and you have to use your spare key instead. I'm no expert but you never know.

COLVERT · 20th September 2017, 21:53

Starter motor solenoid dead.----

Mark Heappey · 20th September 2017, 23:47

Car is manual

Arctic · 21st September 2017, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Heappey

Car is manual

HI Mark if it turns out to be the starter then this thread will help you or your brother whom ever takes on the job, unless the RAC fit a new starter for you.

Ask your brother to unplug the spade end on the starter give it a clean and see if the car starts, Fig 3 in the link below, also pic below

https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...d.php?t=227316

Mark Heappey · 21st September 2017, 20:59

OK guys a quick update on the non starting diesel. RAC came out tonight and managed to get car started by connecting a lead from the spade connector on the starter directly to the battery. Once started lead is removed and car runs no problem. When ignition is turned off car will not start on key. My brother only has the spare key so I cannot try mine until I return from holiday. RAC seems to think it is an immobiliser fault and will need a T4 session to fix. My question is whether it is a problem with the spare key or something else. If anyone has any suggestions as to anything else to check before I have to resort to hot wiring to get it started it would be gratefuly appreciated.

I have never had any problems with starting before and this could potentially be a pain in the backside to find.

Greeners · 21st September 2017, 23:52

Bigrus is your man to sort it out

20th September 2017, 18:08	#1
Mark Heappey Avid contributor Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE Tourer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pontefract Posts: 186 Thanks: 46 Thanked 36 Times in 23 Posts	Diesel non starter Hi guys need some help. Parked my diesel conny up at my mums 2 weeks ago and my brother has tried to move it a couple of days ago but engine will not turn over. Bought new battery and now fitted but still no joy in starting. Engine is still not turning over but everything else is working fine. Pumps running normally, plenty of fuel etc. Not had any previous symptoms of non starting and unfortunately I am away on holiday and relying on my brother to attempt to fix the problem. Anyone got any ideas He has arranged for RAC to come tomorrow but hoped someone might be able to point him in the right direction. Many thanks Mark

20th September 2017, 20:42	#4
Davy Avid contributor suzuki vitara Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 229 Thanks: 498 Thanked 47 Times in 42 Posts	If everything is working as normal e.g. pumps running etc but won`t turn over is the car an automatic and is not in park or neutral as this would stop the engine turning and starting. Davy __________________ I am not a number i am a free man.

20th September 2017, 20:51	#5
ZedTeeT Gets stuck in MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Horsham Posts: 874 Thanks: 197 Thanked 239 Times in 207 Posts	I believe our cars can suffer a problem with the immobiliser code if they're repeatedly tried to start with a flat battery. I think they can loose the code and you have to use your spare key instead. I'm no expert but you never know. __________________ My garage. 03/53 MG ZT-T+ CDTi auto in XPG. 232k and much to do! 21/21 MG ZS ev. Daily. 85/C Capri 2.8i Special. Mine 30+ years. 82/X Talbot Tagora SX V6. Restoration project. 11/11 Hyundai I Load CRDi. Van....... nuff said.

21st September 2017, 20:59	#9
Mark Heappey Avid contributor Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE Tourer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pontefract Posts: 186 Thanks: 46 Thanked 36 Times in 23 Posts	Update on non starter OK guys a quick update on the non starting diesel. RAC came out tonight and managed to get car started by connecting a lead from the spade connector on the starter directly to the battery. Once started lead is removed and car runs no problem. When ignition is turned off car will not start on key. My brother only has the spare key so I cannot try mine until I return from holiday. RAC seems to think it is an immobiliser fault and will need a T4 session to fix. My question is whether it is a problem with the spare key or something else. If anyone has any suggestions as to anything else to check before I have to resort to hot wiring to get it started it would be gratefuly appreciated. I have never had any problems with starting before and this could potentially be a pain in the backside to find.

21st September 2017, 23:52	#10
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20th September 2017, 18:17	#2
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	Sound like it may possibly be a starter motor problem - the contacts are a known failure point.

20th September 2017, 19:47	#3
Mark Heappey Avid contributor Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE Tourer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pontefract Posts: 186 Thanks: 46 Thanked 36 Times in 23 Posts	Thanks for the info, will let my brother know and he can tell the RAC tomorrow.

20th September 2017, 21:53	#6
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	Starter motor solenoid dead.----

20th September 2017, 23:47	#7
Mark Heappey Avid contributor Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE Tourer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pontefract Posts: 186 Thanks: 46 Thanked 36 Times in 23 Posts	Car is manual