Texaco N402 for JATCO unit - Page 5

crofts · 3rd March 2007, 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by salop75

Well i managed to get my 'ATF 402'

from Shukers in Shrewsbury, they were a helpfull lot and knew of the lubricant, asking immediately, was it for a Jatco?

Cost me 41ukp inlcuding VAT. I took a clean 5litre container and they filled it up from there drum out the back, nice runny red oil, looks a lot like Vimto.

I'll be glad to have 2/3rds of the Gul oil out of the autobox. I plan more frequent autobox oil changes.

Note: ATF 402 is Red, if the garage you go to has oil which is a different colour then it is NOT ATF 402.

John

Hi salop. The price at Xpart is £20.70 / 5 litre+VAT. I wonder if £41 is the wholesale price for the 20 litre TO Xpart ? ? Something funny there !

Most, if not all ATF's for auto boxes that I have bought in the past (my XJ6, BMW 7series, Vectra etc.) and most power steering fluids, many of which are dual purpose) are all red in colour so not a fail safe indication of N402.

direstraits · 3rd March 2007, 07:01

Re all the posts about correct fluid for the Jatco autoboxes. In another world and another the place the question about correct fluid reared its ugly head.
It transpired that the seals being used were the governing factor for the oil.
Dextron and nil Dextron was the answer.
If the wrong fluid is used then the seals (o-rings) would be degraded, resulting in slight leakage from the units inside the box.
The reason for the fluid being retained in the box is I believe because the convertor holds back the fluid when the box is drained but when in use there is an interchange between the fluid in the box and the convertor.
The correct grade of fluid for hydraulics is a constant source of scratching of heads in most systems and has been the cause of many expensive failures in the marine industry that carries you on holiday across the channel.

------The Captain his officers and crew are sorry that you have been delayed by a technical problem.

Gavin put the wrong fluid in the steering gear.

Believe me I was there!!!!!!

Mike · 13th March 2007, 18:57

I spoke to XPart on this issue and they have come back saying that they will be issuing a reminder about the correct JATCO autobox fluid to the XPart Centres.

Thanks to all for the feedback

Mike

JohnDotCom · 13th March 2007, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

I spoke to XPart on this issue and they have come back saying that they will be issuing a reminder about the correct JATCO autobox fluid to the XPart Centres.

Thanks to all for the feedback

Mike

Well Done Mike. Thanks.

GreyGhost · 13th March 2007, 19:50

Cheers Mike, thanks for doing that, it was all getting a bit silly.

GreyGhost · 15th December 2008, 10:09

Update on Auto transmission fluid for JATCO JF506E 5 speed box.

N 402, ATF 402, LNR 402, are no longer supplied by any dealers.

Part Number VYK 000040 is now JF403E Auto Transmission Fluid and is designated specifically for:-
JF403E 4 speed JATCO box and JF506E 5 speed box as fitted to all Rover 75 and MGZT Automatics.

JohnDotCom · 15th December 2008, 10:15

Thanks for update and clarification GG.

crofts · 16th December 2008, 02:53

If you have not read all the posts here it may be relevant to repeat GG / John's of 28th Feb. 2007.
It's why I recommend you buy the fluid yourself even when using an auto transmission specialist. (even Ashcroft told me they use Castrol.........not correct)
If all else fails locally the fluid is usually freely available from Rimmers Tel:- 01522 563344

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grey Ghost View Post
This really doesn't instill much confidence in this particular piece of information being correctly disseminated to Xpart dealers.
I wonder just how many JATCO boxes fail due to incorrect fluid replacement rather than wear and tear. Bearing in mind what we hear is allegedly stated by some repairers "they all do that".
This is what I was saying MM I have now phoned 10 XPart Auto Service Centres and not One new the correct oil to put in these Boxes! This is disgusting and could cause a premature failure of Box. Are XPart Dealers that stupid? Most put in Castrol or whatever they have has also been stated, when told about correct oil they say never heard of that one even though its on there listings or it don't matter they are all the Same. A Firmly worded letter is now on the way to them and will be trying to find the head of XPart services re same!
All faith in the Garages has now been lost and would not recommend any oneto take their Car to these already phoned.
(Can they be listed with replies on Forum?)
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Regards, JDC

Robin13 · 25th March 2012, 10:16

Hi< any one knows where I can get Texaco N402 for my automatic transmission. I live in Dun Laoghaire /Ireland /. Can I use any substitute? Appreciate any feeback.
Robin

SD1too · 25th March 2012, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin13

any one know where I can get Texaco N402 for my automatic transmission. I live in Dun Laoghaire /Ireland /. Can I use any substitute? Appreciate any feedback.

Robin,

Scroll up a bit and the answer to your question is in post no. 46: VYK 000 040. Try Rimmer Brothers, Land Rover dealers (add 'L' suffix to part number) or even Texaco filling stations (Texamatic 7045E).

Simon.

3rd March 2007, 07:01	#42
direstraits Avid contributor 2X MGZT-T190,s 1XMGZT180 X-PowerGrey/Trophy Blue/ Anthracite Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hampshire Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Autobox fluid. Re all the posts about correct fluid for the Jatco autoboxes. In another world and another the place the question about correct fluid reared its ugly head. It transpired that the seals being used were the governing factor for the oil. Dextron and nil Dextron was the answer. If the wrong fluid is used then the seals (o-rings) would be degraded, resulting in slight leakage from the units inside the box. The reason for the fluid being retained in the box is I believe because the convertor holds back the fluid when the box is drained but when in use there is an interchange between the fluid in the box and the convertor. The correct grade of fluid for hydraulics is a constant source of scratching of heads in most systems and has been the cause of many expensive failures in the marine industry that carries you on holiday across the channel. ------The Captain his officers and crew are sorry that you have been delayed by a technical problem. Gavin put the wrong fluid in the steering gear. Believe me I was there!!!!!!

13th March 2007, 18:57	#43
Mike This is my second home Rover 75 V8 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,448 Thanks: 0 Thanked 206 Times in 32 Posts	update I spoke to XPart on this issue and they have come back saying that they will be issuing a reminder about the correct JATCO autobox fluid to the XPart Centres. Thanks to all for the feedback Mike __________________ Mike [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

16th December 2008, 02:53	#48
crofts I really should get out more....... 2003 Rover 75 Conn. SE Auto Tourer 131 ps CDTi Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 2,512 Thanks: 38 Thanked 67 Times in 55 Posts	ATF for Jatco Boxes If you have not read all the posts here it may be relevant to repeat GG / John's of 28th Feb. 2007. It's why I recommend you buy the fluid yourself even when using an auto transmission specialist. (even Ashcroft told me they use Castrol.........not correct) If all else fails locally the fluid is usually freely available from Rimmers Tel:- 01522 563344 Quote: Originally Posted by Grey Ghost View Post This really doesn't instill much confidence in this particular piece of information being correctly disseminated to Xpart dealers. I wonder just how many JATCO boxes fail due to incorrect fluid replacement rather than wear and tear. Bearing in mind what we hear is allegedly stated by some repairers "they all do that". This is what I was saying MM I have now phoned 10 XPart Auto Service Centres and not One new the correct oil to put in these Boxes! This is disgusting and could cause a premature failure of Box. Are XPart Dealers that stupid? Most put in Castrol or whatever they have has also been stated, when told about correct oil they say never heard of that one even though its on there listings or it don't matter they are all the Same. A Firmly worded letter is now on the way to them and will be trying to find the head of XPart services re same! All faith in the Garages has now been lost and would not recommend any oneto take their Car to these already phoned. (Can they be listed with replies on Forum?) __________________ . Regards, JDC __________________ Rover 75 CDTi SE Connoisseur Tourer (2003) In desirable STARLIGHT SILVER (now restored to it's former glory with all the chrome !)

25th March 2012, 10:16	#49
Robin13 Newbie Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Dun Laoghaire Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Texaco 402 Hi< any one knows where I can get Texaco N402 for my automatic transmission. I live in Dun Laoghaire /Ireland /. Can I use any substitute? Appreciate any feeback. Robin

13th March 2007, 19:50	#45
GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	Cheers Mike, thanks for doing that, it was all getting a bit silly.

15th December 2008, 10:09	#46
GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	Update on Auto transmission fluid for JATCO JF506E 5 speed box. N 402, ATF 402, LNR 402, are no longer supplied by any dealers. Part Number VYK 000040 is now JF403E Auto Transmission Fluid and is designated specifically for:- JF403E 4 speed JATCO box and JF506E 5 speed box as fitted to all Rover 75 and MGZT Automatics.

15th December 2008, 10:15	#47
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks for update and clarification GG.