Jaguar XF problems ugh! - Page 3

murphyv310 · 27th February 2017, 19:35

Hi.
Any sound deadening pads I've seen are bitumen based, this material cannot absorb water and act like a sponge.
So what is the pads made from in the Jag? Again I have to ask is why has the inner door area not been given even a light spray of wax from the factory, on an expensive car this is penny pinching.
TBH I am more than concerned about the paint or lack of inside the doors, is this also an issue in other hidden areas?
Time to wield the big stick at Jaguar. Take lots of pictures and make sure you have a copy.

Jim Jamieson · 27th February 2017, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Lynyrd Skynner

Go down to your local Jag steeler door cards off and take the sound pads do it on a saturday when there is more likely to be more people looking to buy a new Jag and really politely kick off you might be surprised how quickly they look after you .....

I've already got something planned re my MOT complaint at the opening of their plush new JLR premises currently under construction.

Watch this space but this corrosion saga really is the limit.
If I could really afford it the car would be traded tomorrow but the value on it now with these doors will be below bottom book.

I may just have to run it into the ground, one thing is sure there will be no more Jaguars

murphyv310 · 27th February 2017, 19:52

I know you are meticulous Jim, is there any other corrosion issues?

Jim Jamieson · 27th February 2017, 19:56

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Originally Posted by sworks

I've seen this in the past but I'm unsure what the cause was as the pad shouldn't absorb water and retain it against the door. Why do you need two doors Jim? Can the body shop not bare metal yours and treat?

The time taken to strip the doors would probably be inhibitive plus at this time I'm not sure I want to go to this expense, even getting two doors from a scrappy would be expensive nowadays.

I reckon the estimate coming in will not be much short of 2k. We will see just how short I am when the postie arrives.

Jim Jamieson · 27th February 2017, 20:03

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Originally Posted by murphyv310

I know you are meticulous Jim, is there any other corrosion issues?

There is a very small blister where the front wing meets the bumper.
I've even checked the boot lid area as it's a known problem area but it seems fine.
Bear in mind this car had only 25k when I purchased it from Lancaster Jaguar just over two years ago. It really looked and drove like a new car.
It still drives well but with the experience of being ripped off from my last MOT then the window failure which I'm still awaiting parts and now this corrosion it really sucks and simply should not have happened.

My previous experience with Jaguar Customer Services Was not good so I don't expect much from them on this corrosion.

jonc3725 · 27th February 2017, 20:46

I feel for you mate that is not good.

I have owned Jags in the past snd even restored one. I wouldnt touch them with a barge poll after the two I owned snd seeing pictures of X types disappearing in front of owners eyes. There is no excuse for this nowaday with the technologies out there

All thr above is the reason I went for a merc C class AMG spec instead of a Jag to replace our R75.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=257336

I still have the Zed for fun though. It will be interesting to see what tata(oops sorry) Jag say

clf · 27th February 2017, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Jim Jamieson

There is a very small blister where the front wing meets the bumper.
I've even checked the boot lid area as it's a known problem area but it seems fine.
Bear in mind this car had only 25k when I purchased it from Lancaster Jaguar just over two years ago. It really looked and drove like a new car.
It still drives well but with the experience of being ripped off from my last MOT then the window failure which I'm still awaiting parts and now this corrosion it really sucks and simply should not have happened.

My previous experience with Jaguar Customer Services Was not good so I don't expect much from them on this corrosion.

I dont know if you have come across THESE GUYS, I never bought anything from them, but did get good service in the form of advice and a rapid response to a query I had. (I didnt buy, because the car was shifted on not long after I made my enquiry lol). The link should take you to an XF door. Maybe they will be a less expensive solution should you need to go down that route.

Bolin · 27th February 2017, 22:59

My Austin Allegro doesn't have this problem. It is 40 years old.

Not good enough for any manufacturer, let alone a premium one.

Christopher Price · 28th February 2017, 08:04

I have to say that whilst I'm a fan of the marque, after Googling Jaguars anti-corrosion warranty, for them to only offer a 6 year corrosion warranty for what's supposed to be a "Premium" brand, is quite poor and would expect to have at least double that. Suppose it boils down to the old "Caveat Emptor".

jonathan63 · 28th February 2017, 09:11

Thanks for posting your experiences with your XF and jaguar "customer service" Jim, not least because I was actively looking at them as a replacement for my 114bhp Tourer.

As a result of you flagging up your rust and service problems I'll be treating my Tourer to a remap to 160 and a little more TLC.

When I do buy a replacement (and I'll be keeping the 75 in the workshop) it will probably be a Merc E or a Lexus. I've had both in the past and the service from the Lexus dealers is fantastic.

A genuine thank you to Jim. I suspect he has saved a lot of us a lot of pain and frustration. And I hope you get your sorted Jim.

27th February 2017, 19:35	#21
murphyv310 This is my second home Hyundai i10 998cc Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 6,602 Thanks: 2,088 Thanked 2,298 Times in 1,349 Posts	Hi. Any sound deadening pads I've seen are bitumen based, this material cannot absorb water and act like a sponge. So what is the pads made from in the Jag? Again I have to ask is why has the inner door area not been given even a light spray of wax from the factory, on an expensive car this is penny pinching. TBH I am more than concerned about the paint or lack of inside the doors, is this also an issue in other hidden areas? Time to wield the big stick at Jaguar. Take lots of pictures and make sure you have a copy. __________________ Cheers from Trevor MM0KJJ

27th February 2017, 19:52	#23
murphyv310 This is my second home Hyundai i10 998cc Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 6,602 Thanks: 2,088 Thanked 2,298 Times in 1,349 Posts	I know you are meticulous Jim, is there any other corrosion issues? __________________ Cheers from Trevor MM0KJJ

27th February 2017, 20:46	#26
jonc3725 Posted a thing or two MG ZT 190 + and MKIV Supra Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Plymouth Posts: 1,551 Thanks: 224 Thanked 493 Times in 359 Posts	I feel for you mate that is not good. I have owned Jags in the past snd even restored one. I wouldnt touch them with a barge poll after the two I owned snd seeing pictures of X types disappearing in front of owners eyes. There is no excuse for this nowaday with the technologies out there All thr above is the reason I went for a merc C class AMG spec instead of a Jag to replace our R75. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=257336 I still have the Zed for fun though. It will be interesting to see what tata(oops sorry) Jag say __________________ Jon C Living the dream MK IV VVTI Tiptronic TT Toyota Supra MG ZT 190+ BornTuesday, 10th July 2001 @ 09:01:10 259th ZT to run off the production line, out of 18,894 252nd ZT 190 + to be made out of 4,023 101st ZT in Solar Red (code: CEU) to be made out of 1,888 Last edited by jonc3725; 27th February 2017 at 20:55..

27th February 2017, 22:59	#28
Bolin This is my second home Rover 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE 4dr manual Wedgewood Blue 2 04-05/06/2001 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: N.E. Hampshire Posts: 4,617 Thanks: 289 Thanked 308 Times in 243 Posts	My Austin Allegro doesn't have this problem. It is 40 years old. Not good enough for any manufacturer, let alone a premium one. __________________ "...the new Rover 75, which is a fabulous car......I think it looks fabulous....It's like sitting in a Rolls Royce......For me, this is the star of the show.....it looks so good" - J. Clarkson, motoring journalist on the launch of the Rover 75 in 1998.

28th February 2017, 08:04	#29
Christopher Price Banned None at the moment. Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Lincoln Posts: 753 Thanks: 151 Thanked 230 Times in 152 Posts	I have to say that whilst I'm a fan of the marque, after Googling Jaguars anti-corrosion warranty, for them to only offer a 6 year corrosion warranty for what's supposed to be a "Premium" brand, is quite poor and would expect to have at least double that. Suppose it boils down to the old "Caveat Emptor".

28th February 2017, 09:11	#30
jonathan63 This is my second home CDTi Conniosseur SE HLNav Tourer and a Personal Line CDT Conniosseur SE Tourer..for the time being. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cumbria Posts: 3,639 Thanks: 340 Thanked 423 Times in 294 Posts	Thanks for posting your experiences with your XF and jaguar "customer service" Jim, not least because I was actively looking at them as a replacement for my 114bhp Tourer. As a result of you flagging up your rust and service problems I'll be treating my Tourer to a remap to 160 and a little more TLC. When I do buy a replacement (and I'll be keeping the 75 in the workshop) it will probably be a Merc E or a Lexus. I've had both in the past and the service from the Lexus dealers is fantastic. A genuine thank you to Jim. I suspect he has saved a lot of us a lot of pain and frustration. And I hope you get your sorted Jim.