Highline Satnav GPS not displaying

issy75 · 22nd December 2011, 20:17

Hi All, Just joined.
I have 75 conn/seur SE AUTO 2.0 CDI SATNAV / TV, new 2001. now 65000 miles .best car ive had but now got problems with GPS.
Just had MOT and service and now cant get GPS.
Garage states they have not disconected battery, but signs of wet in spare wheel area.(i have had hot air blower on units & wiring 6 hours but no difference)
Radio/tapes still work fine.
At switch on MENU shows.trip comp.Tele.Settings.screen off.
L/H knob moves curser & selects OK.
when in settings, press & hold MENU button,Service mode shows
Screen shows on board monitor & Video Module.
If knob is pressed on selecting either, data shows.
Select return and press menu button which returns to Menu screen.

What ever i do cant get GPS.
Ive cleaned the disc. (original 2001)
Any help would be much appreciated.

Albert

suffolk boy · 22nd December 2011, 20:42

so from what i understand has the sat nav option dissapeared of the board monitor?

Reebs · 22nd December 2011, 20:54

Check the navigation computer in the boot too. IS there a red light on it?

If not then the unit has a fault or there may be water ingress to the connectors at the back.

Pull the CD unit out and take a look, is there any sign of water staining to the metal casing?

issy75 · 23rd December 2011, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by suffolk boy

so from what i understand has the sat nav option dissapeared of the board monitor?

Yes, that's correct. no sat nav option on the display. There is a red light on the cd unit. Also the cd intermittantly ejects and re loads it's self automatically. I've checked the cd and its clean with no visible marks.

suffolk boy · 23rd December 2011, 10:36

sounds like one of two things.1st being are the plugs fully inserted into the unit?the black horse shoe shaped levers have to be in the fully down ie flat b4 pushing the pulgs fully home.the levers are in fact only there to ease removal i only says this as i connected mine up with the levers half way up the plugs go in but not fully.the other thing if after trying this is a loose kbus wire which is the red and white wire with horizontal yellow stripes on the black plug

Reebs · 23rd December 2011, 10:36

Good so the unit hasn't been fried. I would open the boot, wait for the CD unit LED to go out (should take 45 secs to a min), then remove the CD Nav unit using standard radio release removal tools, disconnect the blue and pink multipin connectors along with the small antenna plug if it's a mark III, and take it inside to warm / dry out.

Have a close look at the pins and the now dangling connectors in the car to make sure there is no contamination which would make for a poor connection.

Then refit and retry.

If that all fails to help, do the same with the connections to the video module (the silver unit on the left in the spare wheel well).

Once you have confirmed that all connectors are clean and secure, the only problem could be that the nav computer itself has somehow become damaged internally and will need replacing.

issy75 · 26th December 2011, 13:35

Hi Reebs/ Sufolkboy,
Thanks for info.Ive checked all 3 units & no signs of water staining or corrosion
all look in new condition. checked plugs all look ok.
Satnav switches on / off red lamp ok when doors open close.
When in settings & menu pressed on board monitor version shows
SW level 42 HW " 44 Diag " 11 Bus index 09 Encoding index 00
Supplier 17 Also video module shows SW 06 HW 05 DIAG 00
BUS 10 Encoding 00

The forum mentions a T4 test? would this identify the fault ? if f so who can do it Sheffield area?. If ineed a new computer what should I get & from where.
MANY THANKS, WITH BEST WISHES FOR 2012, REGARDS

kissifer1972 · 26th December 2011, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by issy75

Hi Reebs/ Sufolkboy,
Thanks for info.Ive checked all 3 units & no signs of water staining or corrosion
all look in new condition. checked plugs all look ok.
Satnav switches on / off red lamp ok when doors open close.
When in settings & menu pressed on board monitor version shows
SW level 42 HW " 44 Diag " 11 Bus index 09 Encoding index 00
Supplier 17 Also video module shows SW 06 HW 05 DIAG 00
BUS 10 Encoding 00

The forum mentions a T4 test? would this identify the fault ? if f so who can do it Sheffield area?. If ineed a new computer what should I get & from where.
MANY THANKS, WITH BEST WISHES FOR 2012, REGARDS

Nearest T4 I know of to you is BigRuss in West Yorks - 5 mins out of Brighouse or Birstall - about 40 mins from you.

He knows these cars inside out - send him a PM. Should be seeing him myself some time this week to get the T4 on mine.

Chris

suffolk boy · 26th December 2011, 15:34

get to big russ if you can but its worth checking the kbus wire sounds like it could be loose .this is what tells the board monitorthe sat nav its there look for the red white yellow striped wire give it a gentle tug. mine was loose gave all sorts of problems

issy75 · 29th December 2011, 15:00

Still no gps. but as you suggested in a thread ive spoke to REVTRONICS
Who say check/replace satnav aerial before sending computer for repair.

Where is satnav aerial on 75 saloon & how do I test it.

Thank you all.

22nd December 2011, 20:17	#1
issy75 Newbie ROVER 75 CONN/SEUR SE Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SHEFFIELD Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Highline Satnav GPS not displaying Hi All, Just joined. I have 75 conn/seur SE AUTO 2.0 CDI SATNAV / TV, new 2001. now 65000 miles .best car ive had but now got problems with GPS. Just had MOT and service and now cant get GPS. Garage states they have not disconected battery, but signs of wet in spare wheel area.(i have had hot air blower on units & wiring 6 hours but no difference) Radio/tapes still work fine. At switch on MENU shows.trip comp.Tele.Settings.screen off. L/H knob moves curser & selects OK. when in settings, press & hold MENU button,Service mode shows Screen shows on board monitor & Video Module. If knob is pressed on selecting either, data shows. Select return and press menu button which returns to Menu screen. What ever i do cant get GPS. Ive cleaned the disc. (original 2001) Any help would be much appreciated. Albert

22nd December 2011, 20:42	#2
suffolk boy This is my second home fiat panda Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: haverhill Posts: 6,720 Thanks: 96 Thanked 586 Times in 526 Posts	so from what i understand has the sat nav option dissapeared of the board monitor? __________________ fiat panda 1.2 eco

22nd December 2011, 20:54	#3
Reebs Owners Club Director Rover 75 Conn SE V6 / MG ZT 260 SE V8 / MG ZT 180 SE V6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 20,950 Thanks: 645 Thanked 6,851 Times in 2,537 Posts	Check the navigation computer in the boot too. IS there a red light on it? If not then the unit has a fault or there may be water ingress to the connectors at the back. Pull the CD unit out and take a look, is there any sign of water staining to the metal casing? __________________ Check your trim here . Check your spec here Check your colour here . Check Project Drive here Check your original price here

23rd December 2011, 10:36	#5
suffolk boy This is my second home fiat panda Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: haverhill Posts: 6,720 Thanks: 96 Thanked 586 Times in 526 Posts	sounds like one of two things.1st being are the plugs fully inserted into the unit?the black horse shoe shaped levers have to be in the fully down ie flat b4 pushing the pulgs fully home.the levers are in fact only there to ease removal i only says this as i connected mine up with the levers half way up the plugs go in but not fully.the other thing if after trying this is a loose kbus wire which is the red and white wire with horizontal yellow stripes on the black plug __________________ fiat panda 1.2 eco

23rd December 2011, 10:36	#6
Reebs Owners Club Director Rover 75 Conn SE V6 / MG ZT 260 SE V8 / MG ZT 180 SE V6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 20,950 Thanks: 645 Thanked 6,851 Times in 2,537 Posts	Good so the unit hasn't been fried. I would open the boot, wait for the CD unit LED to go out (should take 45 secs to a min), then remove the CD Nav unit using standard radio release removal tools, disconnect the blue and pink multipin connectors along with the small antenna plug if it's a mark III, and take it inside to warm / dry out. Have a close look at the pins and the now dangling connectors in the car to make sure there is no contamination which would make for a poor connection. Then refit and retry. If that all fails to help, do the same with the connections to the video module (the silver unit on the left in the spare wheel well). Once you have confirmed that all connectors are clean and secure, the only problem could be that the nav computer itself has somehow become damaged internally and will need replacing. __________________ Check your trim here . Check your spec here Check your colour here . Check Project Drive here Check your original price here

26th December 2011, 13:35	#7
issy75 Newbie ROVER 75 CONN/SEUR SE Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SHEFFIELD Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Reebs/ Sufolkboy, Thanks for info.Ive checked all 3 units & no signs of water staining or corrosion all look in new condition. checked plugs all look ok. Satnav switches on / off red lamp ok when doors open close. When in settings & menu pressed on board monitor version shows SW level 42 HW " 44 Diag " 11 Bus index 09 Encoding index 00 Supplier 17 Also video module shows SW 06 HW 05 DIAG 00 BUS 10 Encoding 00 The forum mentions a T4 test? would this identify the fault ? if f so who can do it Sheffield area?. If ineed a new computer what should I get & from where. MANY THANKS, WITH BEST WISHES FOR 2012, REGARDS

26th December 2011, 15:34	#9
suffolk boy This is my second home fiat panda Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: haverhill Posts: 6,720 Thanks: 96 Thanked 586 Times in 526 Posts	get to big russ if you can but its worth checking the kbus wire sounds like it could be loose .this is what tells the board monitorthe sat nav its there look for the red white yellow striped wire give it a gentle tug. mine was loose gave all sorts of problems __________________ fiat panda 1.2 eco

29th December 2011, 15:00	#10
issy75 Newbie ROVER 75 CONN/SEUR SE Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SHEFFIELD Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Still no gps. but as you suggested in a thread ive spoke to REVTRONICS Who say check/replace satnav aerial before sending computer for repair. Where is satnav aerial on 75 saloon & how do I test it. Thank you all.