I've noticed this petition calling for a second referendum in the UK is gaining

[Polly]

There's no point blaming Farage, that's akin to blaming Cameron for giving us a Tory government. Neither would able to do anything without a large chunk of support from joe public.
Of course, the new party leader might decide to ignore the vote completely, or perhaps go for the Norway option with free movement of people, but that's not to be recommended if he wants to win the next election. Ignore public opinion, and Farage will still be there eating into his nice fat majority until Corbyn... Yes even him... Finds himself in No10. You see that's why we voted to leave.��


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[bobthebuilder]

Originally Posted by Polly

Don't you think they might be just testing the water? After all, we do need a "deal", even though it is "no deal", and no one really believed that prime minister Cameron would have been silly enough to call a referendum and not have a plan B. Is it any wonder everyone is running around like headless chickens.
As for the idea of a second referendum, to agree the final deal? That sounds even more stupid than the first referendum, how many options will it have? Can't really be anything more than a simple yes or no, so what if the answer is No?


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Well yes he may be testing the water, especially as he's declaring his candidacy for PM. We absolutely do need a deal, that's what the next 2 odd years of negotiations are about! Although Gove and Co are stringing it out by wanting unofficial negotiations as well, much to the EU's annoyance.

I've been saying for a while I suspect the result of these negotiations could result in a second referendum to accept or not accept the deal they've negotiated, I didn't think Hunt etc would admit as much so soon. To my mind Out means Out, Hunt seems to want shades of grey.

Like you, I think a referendum has to have just two questions. Accept the deal or don't, who knows what happens in that case.

And to both Polly and MGJ, I'm not blaming Farage, quite the reverse! I see him as the mouthpiece of the majority that voted Out. He and the general public will go nuts if the Hunt, Gove, Johnson mob try to water down an EU withdrawal which is clearly what is happening.

People voted for Out and they expect a proper Out. Seems the official campaign team are now renaguing, on this.

And MGJ, I hope you are not comparing yourself to Farage. You may have both recognised the 'danger' eons ago, but he formed a party that got millions of votes at the last GE. I can't stand the guy, and I'm hugely embarrassed to have voted for him once before I saw through him! But he did get people energised.

[Leyland Worldmaster]

Originally Posted by bobthebuilder

Well yes he may be testing the water, especially as he's declaring his candidacy for PM. We absolutely do need a deal, that's what the next 2 odd years of negotiations are about! Although Gove and Co are stringing it out by wanting unofficial negotiations as well, much to the EU's annoyance.

I've been saying for a while I suspect the result of these negotiations could result in a second referendum to accept or not accept the deal they've negotiated, I didn't think Hunt etc would admit as much so soon. To my mind Out means Out, Hunt seems to want shades of grey.

Like you, I think a referendum has to have just two questions. Accept the deal or don't, who knows what happens in that case.

And to both Polly and MGJ, I'm not blaming Farage, quite the reverse! I see him as the mouthpiece of the majority that voted Out. He and the general public will go nuts if the Hunt, Gove, Johnson mob try to water down an EU withdrawal which is clearly what is happening.

People voted for Out and they expect a proper Out. Seems the official campaign team are now renaguing, on this.

And MGJ, I hope you are not comparing yourself to Farage. You may have both recognised the 'danger' eons ago, but he formed a party that got millions of votes at the last GE. I can't stand the guy, and I'm hugely embarrassed to have voted for him once before I saw through him! But he did get people energised.

It takes balls to say that Bob. Nice one! 👍

[Polly]

Oh dear
https://www.rt.com/news/348429-europ...d-army-brexit/


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[The Rovering Member]

Originally Posted by bobthebuilder

And MGJ, I hope you are not comparing yourself to Farage. You may have both recognised the 'danger' eons ago, but he formed a party that got millions of votes at the last GE. I can't stand the guy, and I'm hugely embarrassed to have voted for him once before I saw through him! But he did get people energised.

There's absolutely no doubt that he was the main catalyst for the referendum & if you are an outer then you do owe him a debt of gratitude, whatever your personal feelings for the man.

You have to be made of strong stuff to put your head as far above the parapet as he has for the past few years.

[Gate Keeper]

Originally Posted by Darcydog

You think the comment "Don't make me laugh!" is a personal one against you?

It wasn't - and you know that.

It is a well used idiom "said to someone to show that you cannot take their suggestion seriously"

Why try to infer something "personal" when no such inference existed?

I must have had the devil in me and apologise for what I wrote about inferring anything personal.

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by Gate Keeper

I must have had the devil in me and apologise for what I wrote about inferring anything personal.

No worries - and thanks for the reply - appreciate it.

[Dragrad]

Apperently, as per thread title, not going to happen.......

Thread closed as it is has no future... Google it .....

This is a car forum after all....