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21st April 2017, 21:37 | #31 |
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Scrapping my diesel...a worry for me.
I live in Brighton and unfortunately its one of the worst places in the country for NOX levels and I can't afford a new car even if they were going to give me £2000 towards a new one
Its a bit of a bad situation for people like that can only afford cars which are second hand...not to mention the cost that I've paid to keep my car on the road each year, wish there was a deal with buying a second hand motor.
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It's because we are an easy target. Simples. This will make the government look good and show the world they are doing something about it. But I agree, it will make very little difference. Most of the pollution comes from industrial production but they won't get shut down as they make mega bucks. We're just the small fish.
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21st April 2017, 21:43 | #33 |
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I'd have been more than happy to get £2000 for MFL.... sadly it was a clean V6 Petrol and I got £250 instead. If I got the £2000 from the govt, I could have bought a new Panda!!!!!
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21st April 2017, 23:17 | #34 |
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Horses mouth
Of course if you really want to know what the government might be considering rather than read the biased/slanted/apocryphal 'news' outlets (i.e. the tabloid press and their associated web-sites) then go read what was actually said in the recent debate upon which the current story about diesel scrappage appears to be based (although completely unreferenced by any of the 'news' articles I've seen so far). it's in the Hansard here
for anyone prepared to read through it. I've not waded all the way through yet but it's eye-opening that in-spite of the CO and NOx emissions actually having reduced by 20% in the last couple of decades (although the decline has leveled since 2010) that we are talking as if this is a worsening problem. the fact is it's not. What it is is lower and lower pollution limits being pushed (not necessarily a bad thing) driven by both the EU and WHO (World Health Organisation). Some participants in the debate raised concerns the main ones being that incentives to buy a new car may not be the most effective solution especially as the incentive would only be a small assistance in the purchase and the people driving the older cars aren't necessarily the richest or most able to buy new cars in the first place. Another concern is that alternative fuels either require a huge amount of infrastructure (battery charging at roadside etc.) or aren't themselves particularly free from pollution themselves (e.g. Biomass fuels). Add onto all that the recent call for a general election and the current winding down of parliamentary affairs and I can see this getting shelved until a new government is elected anyway....
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21st April 2017, 23:25 | #35 |
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Take all the BS with a pinch of salt and get what suits you out of it. A kia puppy or whatever their eating this month might be your flavour of the month, but best of luck to you.
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21st April 2017, 23:38 | #36 |
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Mine is an oil burner, and I will be keeping mine. There is no scrappage scheme at the moment and I doubt there will be soon.
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22nd April 2017, 02:23 | #37 |
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I wouldn't think so, not in Europe anyway. Older aircraft are simply too expensive for companies to run, most are long gone by that age. Newer aircraft are simply cheaper to run so are used as it makes economic sense to do so.
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Now I knew said ecomentalist was a regular flyer so I asked when he last flew. That finished the conversation. Way I see it Alison is the most efficient solution for my high mileage. She uses very little fuel. So that's better than scrapping her and buying a new car.
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If they really cared they would just shorten their commute by moving closer to work or find jobs closer to home. Doing 60 to the gallon in a (new) 'clean' car and 20k miles a year is stupid if you could be doing only 2k miles a year in something else... just having a brain-whatever here... Right, I'm off out to walk to the shops ... Save
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22nd April 2017, 13:41 | #40 |
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Many folks will be tempted with a scrappage scheme same as the last one.
Results online https://www.gov.uk/government/public...scheme-in-2009 I won't be chopping ours in as I don't want a new car but I am however looking for another car but with all the suggestions of increase in tax etc for diesel I'm unsure on what to get as a main family car petrol or diesel
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