How To Fit A Tazu Clutch Master Cylinder

[rich17865]

Originally Posted by Jules

Ah Dolomite Sprint what a great car !!
I had 2 over 10 years straigh after passing my test at 17, they were the days.

The 2nd Sprint had a factory fitted LSD axle and transformed the car........no more tail slides in the wet........they all should have had them with all that 16V BHP !

Back on topic
Rich will you give us a long term report on these cylinders as I've been wondering about stocking them.
How does the pedal feel now BTW?

Jules

It is very light, but still gives a little feedback so you know it is doing something. I wonder if it would make the diesels a more pleasurable drive?

I haven't been out in it yet, but I will tomorrow so will post up accordingly.

[Jules]

Does it not fit properly because it was based on LHD unit?
How on earth can Tazu market this if it doesn't fit our cars?

[rich17865]

Originally Posted by Jules

Does it not fit properly because it was based on LHD unit?
How on earth can Tazu market this if it doesn't fit our cars?

It does bolt into place, the problem is the hose connection. The outlet is similar to the genuine one, but the genuine hose has a 90 degree union on the master end and the hose is shaped. The supplied copper pipe cannot bend in this manner, hence why I ordered a flexi.

But I have now ordered another flexi that should fit better. Not many people had bought the Tazu master so I knew there would be some trial and error in fitting it.

[Tazu_Parts]

Hello,

Thank You guys for this topic, let me answer some of Your questions and concerns.

Originally Posted by rich17865

Were you not concerned about the copper fracturing with the engine vibration?

Rich, cooper is resistant to vibrations. All japanese cars since forever are using solid clutch pipes. There is a reason why all metal machines or steam trains are using cooper oil lines. Also cooper is neutral to chemicals in brake fluid, unlike plastic.

Originally Posted by Jules

Rich will you give us a long term report on these cylinders as I've been wondering about stocking them.
How does the pedal feel now BTW?

Jules

Jules,Pedal is working lighter because we used EPDM seals instead of plastic seals like in OEM part. EPDM is soft so it allows better piston operation

If You're thinking seriously about stocking our product i would suggest to ask us for a free product sample, You can try it Yourself. We're offering discounts for bigger orders.

Originally Posted by T-Cut

Wonder why they didn't put the cylinder outlet union at the same angle as the OEM unit?
TC

TC, its because we're selling complete part. Original connectors and plastic collars are wearing out. In the past we had warranty problems becase of using original pipe. Now we're offering complete product with full warranty.

Originally Posted by T-Cut

They really ought to consider doing an alloy slave as well.TC

TC, its official, we're working on aluminium slave cylinder with metal pipes. It will be exactly like oem, but better More info very soon.

Originally Posted by Jules

Does it not fit properly because it was based on LHD unit?
How on earth can Tazu market this if it doesn't fit our cars?

Jules, there's no lhd, rhd, petrol or diesel unit - its one part with different numbers, bulkheads are different on rhd and lhd

Why would we produce longer RHD pipes, waste time and money if we know its not going to fit ? of course it fits. Many UK Mg Rover specialists gagages are buying parts from us and fitting without any problems.

Originally Posted by rich17865

It does bolt into place, the problem is the hose connection. The supplied copper pipe cannot bend in this manner,

Rich, it can be bend, its not steel - its not going to break. Hundreds of cars are driving with cooper pipes.

Originally Posted by David Lawrence

Is it not possible to get the Tazu with a short stub of steel pipe just long enough to go through in to the engine bay, with a union on the end so you can connect it up with a flexi

David, that's something we can consider for people that want to use flex pipes. Thank You for Your suggestion.


Below i posted picture with comparison.


Thank You all,

Tazu Parts Team

[rich17865]

Copper I am sure is resistant to vibrations, but there is not one single clipping point along its length to secure it, which means it will move about a lot more than when a manufacturer uses it as part of factory build which would be clipped at several points.

That is the main reason why I chose the Flexi.

Perhaps a fitting needs to be made to make installation a little easier on the RHD models?

[ricardo65]

Originally Posted by rich17865

Copper I am sure is resistant to vibrations, but there is not one single clipping point along its length to secure it, which means it will move about a lot more than when a manufacturer uses it as part of factory build which would be clipped at several points.

That is the main reason why I chose the Flexi.

Perhaps a fitting needs to be made to make installation a little easier on the RHD models?

Also not sure about the copper pipe when I replace mine I noticed the union sits nicely on the bulkhead my main concern would be pulling the copper pipe through the bulkhead with out damage were a flexible pipe goes through nicely and always maintains its shape and because the pipe was shaped in the right places it clips back nicely under the bonnet also I've notice with the tazu it has a plastic eye and I've experienced on the master cylinders these can soon become oval

[rich17865]

Originally Posted by ricardo65

Also not sure about the copper pipe when I replace mine I noticed the union sits nicely on the bulkhead my main concern would be pulling the copper pipe through the bulkhead with out damage were a flexible pipe goes through nicely and always maintains its shape and because the pipe was shaped in the right places it clips back nicely under the bonnet also I've notice with the tazu it has a plastic eye and I've experienced on the master cylinders these can soon become oval

The original eye is plastic, my old one with 103k miles was still round.

[Bolin]

Originally Posted by Tazu_Parts

its official, we're working on aluminium slave cylinder with metal pipes. It will be exactly like oem, but better More info very soon.

:bowd own:

Originally Posted by rich17865

Copper I am sure is resistant to vibrations, but there is not one single clipping point along its length to secure it, which means it will move about a lot more than when a manufacturer uses it as part of factory build which would be clipped at several points.

Rich, I'm sure that the original pipe is only supported where it goes through the two bulkhead grommets and the single clip attaching it to the heater hose.

[rich17865]

Originally Posted by Bolin

Rich, I'm sure that the original pipe is only supported where it goes through the two bulkhead grommets and the single clip attaching it to the heater hose.

Indeed, but metal fractures with vibration, plastic takes a lot more.

[ricardo65]

Originally Posted by rich17865

The original eye is plastic, my old one with 103k miles was still round.

I took mine off yesterday rich to replace the two clutch pedal bushes at the top of the pedal which were not worn but replaced them anyway I noticed alot of free play with the plastic eye and metal pin on inspection I noticed it was becoming oval so my thinking if there is free play at the top of the pedal you won't be getting maximum travel of the master cylinder it was definitely round when I fitted in may this year so may be looking to fit a bush to correct this so i thought may be a metal eye would be better than a plastic one