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Old 1st June 2016, 19:36   #1
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I am just looking to buy our first caravan and looking for a specific layout and wonder what people are towing with the rover 75, are people within the 85% rule or over ?
I am after a 4 berth with a fixed bed and end bathroom with a separate shower so it limits choice somewhat and the earlier models in this layout are heavier than the newer lighter versions.
I am looking at at Bailey models between 1425-1485 MTPLM is this too heavy for a Rover 75 CDTI Tourer

I just wondered what weights other people were towing with the same cars ...

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Old 1st June 2016, 19:48   #2
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I was towing our Coachman 520/4 ViP with our diesel 75 but upgraded it to a Jaguar 3.0 XF just over a year ago.
The 75 handled the Coachman well but I kept the speed down a tad whereas now with the XF I have to watch I don't over speed.

I have just recently fitted the tow bar onto my other 75, a V6 and intend to tow the caravan occasionally if I am attending meetings etc.
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I have a 2013? Lunar Quasar 525. no idea how heavy it is but my cdt tows it no problem. The introduction of a 160 remap has without doubt made a difference.
The 75 has I think a 100kg nose weight which for a car is a lot as often the are 85ish kg's

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I have towed my caravan with a few cars now, a 116 75 tourer, a 160 mapped saloon (not as good as the tourer surprisingly) an old Mazda 6 and my mondeo.

Both 75's never had a problem and would stil manage 350 miles to a tank towing which I though was pretty good especially considering they are autos. My van weighs about 1350kg so a little lighter than some but always towed without issue. The 2.5 auto I've got now is horrible compared with the diesels but still tows well at speed.

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I tow 4 berth caravan with ease. R75 cdti.
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I am just looking to buy our first caravan and looking for a specific layout and wonder what people are towing with the rover 75, are people within the 85% rule or over ?
I am after a 4 berth with a fixed bed and end bathroom with a separate shower so it limits choice somewhat and the earlier models in this layout are heavier than the newer lighter versions.
I am looking at at Bailey models between 1425-1485 MTPLM is this too heavy for a Rover 75 CDTI Tourer

I just wondered what weights other people were towing with the same cars ...

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Hi Sean,
You should not have any problem with the size of van you are looking at.

I pull a Coachman Pastiche 460/2 with MTPLM 1420kg which is very stable and is an easy tow (I do have 160 remap).
I have done a couple of trips to Portugal, where I am now, I use motorway/dual carriageway where possible and using cruise control get about 26mpg.
I am probably guilty of running slightly higher than the MTPLM, I weighed the van before this trip and was shocked to find I was near max weight with just the basic equipment, mover,battery,gas bottles, spare wheel, water containers etc before adding personal items so have had to replan and shift items to the car.
I aim for 90 -100kg noseweight (which i measure) which leaves the back end just slightly lower than i would ideally like loaded for the long trips. You will be better with the higher rated rear springs on the tourer.

I am probably over the 85 rule at near 90% but I wouldn't have a problem running a bit higher.
As an aside my frustration is that if I had bought the van from new Coachman would replate the MTPLM up to the Alko chassis max load of 1500kg but won't entertain it after 12 months from new where I understand other manufacturers will!
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The 85%is only a recommendation, if you are experienced at towing, then you can go up to ,but not above the kerb weight of your car.
85% on the diesel works out at around 1450kg.
I tow an Adria Altea with my 160 auto,and it only weighs1000 MIRO,and 1200 MTPLM.
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Thanks for the information guys, useful to know what sizes others are towing, its set my minds at rest. I am more used to towing car trailers with a Peugeot van or my Discovery ... I am hoping to decide on a model and get something in the next month, it will be our first caravan.

My car is in for a good service and having a few problems sorted and the tow bar and electrics fitted at the moment in Austin Garages.

I am trying to decide between a couple of different Bailey models, a Swift Challenger and a Elddis Explore
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I have a 2013? Lunar Quasar 525. no idea how heavy it is but my cdt tows it no problem. The introduction of a 160 remap has without doubt made a difference.
"No idea how heavy it is - Officer"

Might be an idea to check!

To be fair, the Quasar range is one of the lightest, and the 525 looks to be under 1400kg MTPLM so you've got around 200kg in hand
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I have heard of r cent Bailey models being plagued with damp, Swift too.
I had a customer who always had Bailey models,and changed them every three to four years,m.
His last one had damp in ,and the dealer passed the buck to,the manufacturer, who in turn passed the buck back to the dealer.
The Swift he bought as a replacement after getting the damp sorted ended up with de lamination of the floor and damp round the lower edge.
So perhaps the a Lunar or Eldiss may be a better option.
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