Out of the cars you ever owned, which was the most problematic in terms of cost and.

Lordy · 20th January 2017, 06:56

Hiya all last night I did topic of this http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=260437

This time this is other, Out of all the cars you ever owned, which was the motors that you regretted buying in the first place? Once that cost a lot too keep and parts hunting.

My dad and I have joined forces too put our cards on the table.

Starting things off with my dad's Range Rover Vogue 3.0L diesel.
He wanted other one again and saw the add for this one, my dad went too look at it and bought her for 4k, she looked good and my dad brought it back, how ever things didn't work out in the end, the 75/ZT was kept busy recurng parents after three break downs, in the end we found in the end that my dad had a bought.

LEMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That thing cost him a bomb, plus I did dump so many on the thing as well, only too find that the head was cracked and many parts failure as well.

Next was my dad amption too save a 2.0 16v probe which was a national disaster, my dad bought it knowing full that it wasn't running propyl, how ever in my younger days dad was more then confident too do automotive repairs, long story short it was a real pig so my dad sold it too a female biker covered in tattoos I remember nice girl too, that quickly changed when my dad got letters in the post that saying he was speeding in Manchester doing over 50 in 30mph.

Soon the nice women was called all sorts of names, mainly from me.

Next is my motor the Ford Mondeo Mk3 2.0 diesel, this was going to be my long range cruiser and me being a ford fan well it had too be a Ford didn't, oh wish I never bought this beep beep beep a load of beep beep, yeah that's how much I hated the thing after it cost me over 1500 to try and save the thing.
In the end the engine was dead and gave up on it and it went too the scrap yard best derision I made watching that thing get destroyed.

It was thanks too this destruction that my 75/ZT came into my life and that's been a hard jouney in its self as most of you will know, but still she lives on.

KeithA · 20th January 2017, 08:08

Citroen c4 grand picasso. £5k, 61k miles and fsh when bought. Scrapped at 88k miles with a blown turbo which would have cost £2.5k to repair and they still couldn't warranty. Constant error codes. Dropped about £1k on a wiring fault and egr repair, also did tyres, alternator, battery, injector seals etc etc etc and more I can't recall. Got £300 scrap for it.

Steaming pile of manure, won't buy a citroen ever again.

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Lordy · 20th January 2017, 08:30

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Originally Posted by KeithA

Citroen c4 grand picasso. £5k, 61k miles and fsh when bought. Scrapped at 88k miles with a blown turbo which would have cost £2.5k to repair and they still couldn't warranty. Constant error codes. Dropped about £1k on a wiring fault and egr repair, also did tyres, alternator, battery, injector seals etc etc etc and more I can't recall. Got £300 scrap for it.

Steaming pile of manure, won't buy a citroen ever again.

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Jesus H Christ you spent a lot on it, sounds like it was a pig from start too finish, I would have lost my rag and push it off a cliff, the fastest its ever gone since leaving the production line.

I'll never buy a French car, I just tend too buy cars that rust like Fords.

still I can't help it.

mininuts · 20th January 2017, 09:03

The worst thing I ever bought was a '95 Discovery 300tdi

What a pile of pooh!
To be honest, I didn't spend too much on it because we only had it 6 months, hated every inch of that car. Slow, expensive and clumsy........horrible thing it was.
Bought it because we'd had Defenders before and thought we'd go for a bit more luxury.......give me a Defender any day

Close second was a Peugeot 405 estate, not a bad car really but it suffered HGF and that cost nearly £800 to sort

Got rid soon after

Lordy · 20th January 2017, 09:10

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Originally Posted by mininuts

The worst thing I ever bought was a '95 Discovery 300tdi

What a pile of pooh!
To be honest, I didn't spend too much on it because we only had it 6 months, hated every inch of that car. Slow, expensive and clumsy........horrible thing it was.
Bought it because we'd had Defenders before and thought we'd go for a bit more luxury.......give me a Defender any day

Close second was a Peugeot 405 estate, not a bad car really but it suffered HGF and that cost nearly £800 to sort

Got rid soon after

My dad had two of them, one was ok and other suffered a complete electrical failure on all electronics.

my dad's a fan of Land Rover back in the day, but the discovery ranks the worst of the bunch, he had a classic range rover and that wasn't too bad at all, got a photo here of the one I bought as a project.

KeithA · 20th January 2017, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Lord Rover

Jesus H Christ you spent a lot on it, sounds like it was a pig from start too finish, I would have lost my rag and push it off a cliff, the fastest its ever gone since leaving the production line.

I'll never buy a French car, I just tend too buy cars that rust like Fords.

still I can't help it.

Yup, only got 18months out of it. We had a very good experience with a 405 diesel previously so won't condemn all french cars, but the newer HDI diesels (also in some fords as well as citroens and peugeots) don't seem the most reliable and are stifled by all the emissions requirements these days.

At least the cars you're showing are interesting; ours was just meant to be a reliable workhorse with 7 seats.

The good point about the citroen is it make the 75 look very cheap to run!

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stevestrat · 20th January 2017, 11:20

Not a car but a bike, the Honda FT500. Liked big single cylinders, the FT500 came out early '80s, liked the look of it, bought one.

Turned out to be gutless, underpowered, even a high flow air filter and associated carb modifications did nothing, induction noise was impressive though! You could see the black chrome exhaust rusting as you looked at it! The starter was a major weak point, electric start only and it kept breaking a small cast part in the starter mechanism. When the part broke to start the thing you had to leave a small plate off and use your finger to move the shaft and engage the gear on the starter motor! Needless to say I didn't keep it for long.

Phill_190 · 20th January 2017, 11:36

Ford Mondeo 2001 1.8 petrol... 60,000 miles clutch went and also needed a new DMF, £1800
Then the inlet manifold packed up and kept cutting out on the motorway. £2000 from ford dealer as they were the only ones who could find the problem oh and they had the cheek to add £40 to the bill to change a fuse

I will never buy a Ford again, after other people that I know having horror stories with problem cars that are brand new!

spongeh · 20th January 2017, 12:08

B43 PAY - 1985 MG Metro

First car I bought with my own money back in 1992, I loved it and hated it in equal measure

Bought for £1500, kept it for 9 months where it spent about 6 of those broken, spent over £1500 on parts and garage fees.

3 x gearboxes
2 x engines

My parents finally got annoyed enough with it to buy me an 18 month old Mk4 Escort so I had a reliable car which turned out to have other issues and needed a new engine and 40k miles as it was incompatible with the newly introduced unleaded fuel

RobSun · 20th January 2017, 12:25

My worst cars were a Morris marina company car back in the late 70s that needed warrantee work every two weeks. Eventually it was taken back by B L and a replacement delivered to my home direct from the factory. It was December and it had no antifreeze in it. That went straight back with a cracked block and core plugs in a bag. Next day I got a Cortina.

Next were very much more recent. Two brand new Hyundai i20s. Both suffered from engine management, and clutch failures. Mechanical failure on one, diabolical customer service, there was never anything wrong until they arrived at the dealers on the back of RAC recovery trucks. Poor quality repairs, on one occasion a clutch was changed due to "a design fault" only for next morning the gearbox oil to be all over the drive. The reaction of the foreman was to shrug his shoulders. Replacement parts always took two weeks to come so the cars were often unusable for those periods. This would be made worse when the wrong parts came. Servicing costs were a rip off, 320.00 for a main service.

Sadly I have to add into the mix my current zt-t. Love the car but. It has not been as bad as the others but has cost a fortune. Purchase cost and repair costs now more than the annual depreciation on a Hyundai. Never broken down at the side of the road but struggled to get home or broken down at home as it is now. Main problem has been the poor quality of parts fitted by past owner needing replacement. Big Russ said poor workmanship by past repairers not helped nor has NLA parts and poor quality of parts now being supplied that are failing early. Love the car in every aspect but now I'm thinking head should start overruling heart and a more sensible daily driver found. It may go or it may be kept to join my weekenders, still not decided. It will depend on what it takes to sort it out, but economically breaking it is now very much on the table.

20th January 2017, 06:56	#1
Lordy This is my second home Ford Probe GT. Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Caenarfron Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 3,533 Thanked 2,516 Times in 1,481 Posts	Out of the cars you ever owned, which was the most problematic in terms of cost and. Hiya all last night I did topic of this http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=260437 This time this is other, Out of all the cars you ever owned, which was the motors that you regretted buying in the first place? Once that cost a lot too keep and parts hunting. My dad and I have joined forces too put our cards on the table. Starting things off with my dad's Range Rover Vogue 3.0L diesel. He wanted other one again and saw the add for this one, my dad went too look at it and bought her for 4k, she looked good and my dad brought it back, how ever things didn't work out in the end, the 75/ZT was kept busy recurng parents after three break downs, in the end we found in the end that my dad had a bought. LEMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That thing cost him a bomb, plus I did dump so many on the thing as well, only too find that the head was cracked and many parts failure as well. Next was my dad amption too save a 2.0 16v probe which was a national disaster, my dad bought it knowing full that it wasn't running propyl, how ever in my younger days dad was more then confident too do automotive repairs, long story short it was a real pig so my dad sold it too a female biker covered in tattoos I remember nice girl too, that quickly changed when my dad got letters in the post that saying he was speeding in Manchester doing over 50 in 30mph. Soon the nice women was called all sorts of names, mainly from me. Next is my motor the Ford Mondeo Mk3 2.0 diesel, this was going to be my long range cruiser and me being a ford fan well it had too be a Ford didn't, oh wish I never bought this beep beep beep a load of beep beep, yeah that's how much I hated the thing after it cost me over 1500 to try and save the thing. In the end the engine was dead and gave up on it and it went too the scrap yard best derision I made watching that thing get destroyed. It was thanks too this destruction that my 75/ZT came into my life and that's been a hard jouney in its self as most of you will know, but still she lives on. __________________ Regardless of nation and Origin all Soldiers should be remembered past or present. Lest we forget. Never forget them and support our armed forces. https://i.imgur.com/oyca2Lyl.jpg?1 Passion Never Dies It Only Gets Stronger. Go your own way.

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KeithA Loves to post Rover 75 Conny Tourer Auto Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Essex Posts: 347 Thanks: 75 Thanked 94 Times in 71 Posts	Citroen c4 grand picasso. £5k, 61k miles and fsh when bought. Scrapped at 88k miles with a blown turbo which would have cost £2.5k to repair and they still couldn't warranty. Constant error codes. Dropped about £1k on a wiring fault and egr repair, also did tyres, alternator, battery, injector seals etc etc etc and more I can't recall. Got £300 scrap for it. Steaming pile of manure, won't buy a citroen ever again. Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk __________________ 2003 Tourer, Connoisseur Auto

20th January 2017, 09:03	#4
mininuts This is my second home Cooper S 210 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Port William Posts: 5,309 Thanks: 5,098 Thanked 2,406 Times in 1,631 Posts	The worst thing I ever bought was a '95 Discovery 300tdi What a pile of pooh! To be honest, I didn't spend too much on it because we only had it 6 months, hated every inch of that car. Slow, expensive and clumsy........horrible thing it was. Bought it because we'd had Defenders before and thought we'd go for a bit more luxury.......give me a Defender any day Close second was a Peugeot 405 estate, not a bad car really but it suffered HGF and that cost nearly £800 to sort Got rid soon after __________________ *Paul* 2016 MINI Cooper S 210 : 2000 Rover 75 CDT Classic SE : 2009 Freelander 2 GS : 2000 Mini Cooper Sport : 1986 Mini Mayfair : 1980 Mini Pickup : 1971 Mini Cooper S

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stevestrat This is my second home ZT260 #243 (resting) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prestonpans Posts: 22,479 Thanks: 650 Thanked 4,624 Times in 3,358 Posts	Not a car but a bike, the Honda FT500. Liked big single cylinders, the FT500 came out early '80s, liked the look of it, bought one. Turned out to be gutless, underpowered, even a high flow air filter and associated carb modifications did nothing, induction noise was impressive though! You could see the black chrome exhaust rusting as you looked at it! The starter was a major weak point, electric start only and it kept breaking a small cast part in the starter mechanism. When the part broke to start the thing you had to leave a small plate off and use your finger to move the shaft and engage the gear on the starter motor! Needless to say I didn't keep it for long. __________________ Steve T4 Location Map

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spongeh Loves to post MG ZT-T+ 180 Sport Auto Join Date: May 2016 Location: Wyrley Posts: 290 Thanks: 34 Thanked 117 Times in 72 Posts	B43 PAY - 1985 MG Metro First car I bought with my own money back in 1992, I loved it and hated it in equal measure Bought for £1500, kept it for 9 months where it spent about 6 of those broken, spent over £1500 on parts and garage fees. 3 x gearboxes 2 x engines My parents finally got annoyed enough with it to buy me an 18 month old Mk4 Escort so I had a reliable car which turned out to have other issues and needed a new engine and 40k miles as it was incompatible with the newly introduced unleaded fuel __________________ https://badges.fuelly.com/images/sma...uk/1095349.png http://badges.fuelly.com/images/smallsig-uk/106569.png

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Phill_190 Gets stuck in MG ZT Saloon Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 653 Thanks: 36 Thanked 97 Times in 74 Posts	Ford Mondeo 2001 1.8 petrol... 60,000 miles clutch went and also needed a new DMF, £1800 Then the inlet manifold packed up and kept cutting out on the motorway. £2000 from ford dealer as they were the only ones who could find the problem oh and they had the cheek to add £40 to the bill to change a fuse I will never buy a Ford again, after other people that I know having horror stories with problem cars that are brand new!

20th January 2017, 12:25	#10
RobSun Gets stuck in MGZTT Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bradford Posts: 529 Thanks: 148 Thanked 256 Times in 138 Posts	My worst cars were a Morris marina company car back in the late 70s that needed warrantee work every two weeks. Eventually it was taken back by B L and a replacement delivered to my home direct from the factory. It was December and it had no antifreeze in it. That went straight back with a cracked block and core plugs in a bag. Next day I got a Cortina. Next were very much more recent. Two brand new Hyundai i20s. Both suffered from engine management, and clutch failures. Mechanical failure on one, diabolical customer service, there was never anything wrong until they arrived at the dealers on the back of RAC recovery trucks. Poor quality repairs, on one occasion a clutch was changed due to "a design fault" only for next morning the gearbox oil to be all over the drive. The reaction of the foreman was to shrug his shoulders. Replacement parts always took two weeks to come so the cars were often unusable for those periods. This would be made worse when the wrong parts came. Servicing costs were a rip off, 320.00 for a main service. Sadly I have to add into the mix my current zt-t. Love the car but. It has not been as bad as the others but has cost a fortune. Purchase cost and repair costs now more than the annual depreciation on a Hyundai. Never broken down at the side of the road but struggled to get home or broken down at home as it is now. Main problem has been the poor quality of parts fitted by past owner needing replacement. Big Russ said poor workmanship by past repairers not helped nor has NLA parts and poor quality of parts now being supplied that are failing early. Love the car in every aspect but now I'm thinking head should start overruling heart and a more sensible daily driver found. It may go or it may be kept to join my weekenders, still not decided. It will depend on what it takes to sort it out, but economically breaking it is now very much on the table.