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Old 1st February 2011, 18:56   #31
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If Bio has been used and it is the cause of the damage then is it not possible that there is still sludge in the system and that any repairs will only be temporary as more sludge will find its way into the repaired parts, if this is the case then a complete clean out of the fuel system would be required.
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Old 3rd February 2011, 16:51   #32
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right, took car to garage and the said he had taken the injectors to be tested and they showed uneven pressure on all injectors and that they needed to be refurbished,he also stated the the high pressure fuel pump was u/s and needed to be replaced £££££££££,after 2 weeks he said the car would be ready to be picked up as he was nearly finished,after 10 mins he called back to say he could not get thecar to start when it was warmed up,but he knew what it was and should be ok the following morning,anyway i didn't hear anything from him so i rang him,only for him to say that he had a major problem starting the car again and after taking it for a test drive said it was running a bit lumpy and suspected that number 2 injector may be faulty and has returned it to the injection specialist to be looked at again,what worries me is that the symptoms he has experienced was the very same problem that i booked it in for in thefirst place,he said that the cause was someone possibly using cheap bio diesel which has damaged the pump and injectors,but how do i know this is true,also i have no idea what this is going to cost as he said he had not worked out a price yet,should i have to pay for expensive parts if has diagnosed the problem incorrectly ?......any advice would be welcome
John my Father in law swore by Drakes at shiptonthorpe for all his work and servicing on his 05 conni cdti ex mg rover dealership still has a T4 diagnostic machine i think not far from Hull well worth a call,link below.

http://www.drakesgarage.co.uk/

Failing that i have been using the Cottingham mot centre for a few years now for the jobs i cannot manage myself and found them to be excellent and knowledgeable regards our cars also they are members of the good garage scheme and charge fairly,link below.

http://www.cottingham-mot.co.uk/index.cfm

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Old 3rd February 2011, 19:09   #33
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Benny how much is your bill so far?
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Old 2nd March 2011, 15:14   #34
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right guys were shall i start,i bought the car in dec 2010 and from the word go the car was reluctant to start and got steadily worse,i took it to a local fuel injection specialist who diagnosed a serious fuel problem,he removed the injectors and took them to be looked at and all 4 injectors were clogged up with some kind of gunge.
it transpires that the fuel system was contaminated with somekind of dodgy bio fuel,the car got so bad that it was cutting out and refused to start, he had the injectors cleaned and refurbed £400,cleaned out the tank replaced the injectors and the car ran fine for 1/2 hour then cut out and refused to start,hethen removed the injectors again and took them back to be looked at only to find they were clogged up again,he removed the high pressure pump and found it completely gummed up,so much so that it was completely u/s so it to be replaced by a refurbed pump £350+vat,he then replaced the injectors,completely flushed out the fuel system and hey presto now running like clockwork, total cost including parts and many hours of labour (he stopped counting the hours after a while as the cost was rocketing) £1340 !!!!! the moral of the story is caveat emptor.....and never,ever use any other type of fuel other than standard diesel,ps thanks for all your advice
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Old 3rd March 2011, 02:18   #35
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So much for being ECO FRIENDLY

It has always been the advice by learned members on this Club's Forums to avoid bio/chip-fat fuels...... and here is a point in case

It's a DIESEL engine........ End of.

Glad you got it sorted John Now enjoy the pleasure of driving
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Old 3rd March 2011, 09:55   #36
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It's a DIESEL engine........ End of.
Actually, the very first Diesel engine exhibited by Rudolf Diesel in 1900 was designed to run on mineral oil and then also ran on vegetable oil without any mods. (I think the very first prototype ran on coal dust(?).)

Modern direct injection/common rail engines need DERV but old ones are a lot more tolerant of other stuff.
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Hi I Know this question problem was some time ago but Drakes Garage at Shiptonthorpe no longer have a T4 kit from what I gather: it was water damaged when I needed a diagnosis and I had to go elsewhere. This was 2015 so maybe they've sorted since. Do check first!
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Question Intermittent starting problem with my newly purchased 75 Tourer!

Same problem, had the AA out 4times in the last two days!! Resulted in being recovered back on a truck! Have read all I can and even though I tried to get them to check things they said they all said oh no it's not that it's this and so on! Nightmare!!! As put back on the road , sat in to park, turned once, spot on start! Also the 8 times after! Mad, must have thought our neighbours! Same this morning, cold.. Started first turn! When warmed up after 10 min drive, turned for 20 seconds, eventually start! Two more failed attempts! After 4 hours or so of cooling started after 10 sec turn and then subsequently after 3sec start! Taking him to the garage tomorrow, let's pray it's what I have learned after reading advice on forums and net! Camshaft sensor! Cheap fix I hear, but dread it might be injectors! Any suggestions if that isn't it?? Thanks
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Alex get it on a diagnostics pref someone with a T4 otherwise it's a guessing game !

Meanwhile some DIY checks.....................
How much fuel is in it?
Is the rear pump working?
Is the front pump running? (if fitted)

The AA will refuse to come to you eventually.
If no joy get it recovered here or to another good specialist
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So in the end, after having it tested by my mechanic friend with his Snap-on test computer, it turns out to be the fuel pump under bonnet! So all 4 AA so called mechanics were telling me lots of porkies and are utterly useless as I kept telling them - I think it's the fuel pump as it shouldn't be so loud and go for so long! Well ordered the pump on ebay, will fit it and see...unfortunately have to wait till Tuesday for it to be delivered! Hopefully it solves the problem as everything else is spot on!
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