Prepping the paintwork for the winter months ahead - Page 3

Teflon · 3rd November 2016, 13:14

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Originally Posted by jonathan63

and I am serious....will Collinite make cleaning on cow muck and mud from my car. We live a mile down a farm track and cow muck and mud get splashed up the front doors and leading edges of the rear bumper. I'd love to find something that would help shrug it off.

Any good wax or sealant will help in that regard, but I doubt it would just "shrug off", whatever was used. I suppose you'll have to consider it the price you pay for living in the nicest place on the planet (my opinion, of course).

Cliff

Ravinder · 3rd November 2016, 13:32

Collinite is a wax/sealant. It won't shrug it off but it will make it easier to remove when washing the car like all sealants. It's added protection to the bodywork so makes future washing so much easier if kept on top.

jonathan63 · 3rd November 2016, 13:51

Thanks guys. I need to find time to do this then. Is it different from Mer wax or polish? I have a sachet of that somewhere.

Ravinder · 3rd November 2016, 14:19

You would polish the car first before waxing unless you've polished it recently already. The polish will help with the cleanliness of the body and to get the shine out of it and then you would seal the hard work with a wax or sealant. You should then wax the car after you wash it in future to keep on top of it. All waxes do the same job.

Jordan Apex · 3rd November 2016, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Teflon

Any good wax or sealant will help in that regard, but I doubt it would just "shrug off", whatever was used. I suppose you'll have to consider it the price you pay for living in the nicest place on the planet (my opinion, of course).

Cliff

Exo V2 is as close to shrugging off mud as you will get, if it's rinsed before it dries it should run off! Although there is no magic solution...

Nobby · 3rd November 2016, 20:07

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Originally Posted by jonathan63

We live a mile down a farm track and cow muck and mud get splashed up the front doors and leading edges of the rear bumper. I'd love to find something that would help shrug it off.

Forget the wax - get some cow nappies - job done no muck!

VVC-Geeza · 3rd November 2016, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Ravinder

You would polish the car first before waxing unless you've polished it recently already. The polish will help with the cleanliness of the body and to get the shine out of it and then you would seal the hard work with a wax or sealant. You should then wax the car after you wash it in future to keep on top of it. All waxes do the same job.

I thought wax was polish Rav?

I've just treated my three to two coats of Autoglym Super Resin polish followed by a coat of Autoglym Extra Gloss Ptrotection sealant.

My daily (the 45) stands outside so it makes sense to add a fresh coat of wax after each wash.

Ravinder · 3rd November 2016, 23:52

Hi Mick

Polish and wax are two different things.

Polish is used to remove fine layers of the top coat of your paint to remedy the imperfections on the paint such as swirls, scratches etc. It works as an abrasive which works into the paintwork as you polish. This is what gives it the polish look and the deep shine you get from the bodywork and minimises some of the scratches and swirls.

Once you have polished it, you would then apply wax over it in order to protect what the polish has done. The wax acts as a seal. It minimizes any future contamination that the bodywork would attract if you hadn't protected it such as road tar, inductrial fallout, bird poo, every day debris, etc.

If done properly, you should only have to polish your car 1-3 times a year. As long as you then regularly keep on top of it by regularly washing it and using correct washing techniques and adding a sealant. Nothing wrong with adding a sealant after each wash or every two as this will help prolong the life of the paintwork. You'll find that some waxes also have a very light abrasive which will cover any imperfections too, not as much as a polish, however. A lot of people have the idea that it is the wax that adds the shine. This is not the case. It helps it a little, but the shine comes from the prep beforehand.

I also wouldn't polish your car over the wax as this will strip the wax off as the polish is an abrasive and will cut through it then you're back to square one.

Hope that helps.

VVC-Geeza · 4th November 2016, 00:10

Thanks Rav,some very useful info there.I will heed your advice

7T5 · 4th November 2016, 10:14

If you want to top up the wax over winter i use this detailer. It seems to help keep the car a bit cleaner.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/ca...2160&0&cc5_761

3rd November 2016, 13:32	#22
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Ravinder This is my second home Rover 75 saloon x2, Rover 75 Tourer x2, Rover 220 Coupe Turbo Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife Posts: 9,036 Thanks: 2,278 Thanked 2,852 Times in 1,718 Posts	You would polish the car first before waxing unless you've polished it recently already. The polish will help with the cleanliness of the body and to get the shine out of it and then you would seal the hard work with a wax or sealant. You should then wax the car after you wash it in future to keep on top of it. All waxes do the same job. __________________ Wanted - Indian bride. Cash waiting. (All sorted - bargain) First name and forum name: Ravinder Rover 75 2.0 CDT Connoisseur SE 116 (160 remap) Royal Blue (JFM) This vehicle was the 50,481st 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 2,238th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE to be made out of 3,775 This vehicle was the 5,002nd 75 in Royal Blue (code: JFM) to be made out of 14,420 Royal Blue 75s

3rd November 2016, 23:52	#28
Ravinder This is my second home Rover 75 saloon x2, Rover 75 Tourer x2, Rover 220 Coupe Turbo Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife Posts: 9,036 Thanks: 2,278 Thanked 2,852 Times in 1,718 Posts	Hi Mick Polish and wax are two different things. Polish is used to remove fine layers of the top coat of your paint to remedy the imperfections on the paint such as swirls, scratches etc. It works as an abrasive which works into the paintwork as you polish. This is what gives it the polish look and the deep shine you get from the bodywork and minimises some of the scratches and swirls. Once you have polished it, you would then apply wax over it in order to protect what the polish has done. The wax acts as a seal. It minimizes any future contamination that the bodywork would attract if you hadn't protected it such as road tar, inductrial fallout, bird poo, every day debris, etc. If done properly, you should only have to polish your car 1-3 times a year. As long as you then regularly keep on top of it by regularly washing it and using correct washing techniques and adding a sealant. Nothing wrong with adding a sealant after each wash or every two as this will help prolong the life of the paintwork. You'll find that some waxes also have a very light abrasive which will cover any imperfections too, not as much as a polish, however. A lot of people have the idea that it is the wax that adds the shine. This is not the case. It helps it a little, but the shine comes from the prep beforehand. I also wouldn't polish your car over the wax as this will strip the wax off as the polish is an abrasive and will cut through it then you're back to square one. Hope that helps. __________________ Wanted - Indian bride. Cash waiting. (All sorted - bargain) First name and forum name: Ravinder Rover 75 2.0 CDT Connoisseur SE 116 (160 remap) Royal Blue (JFM) This vehicle was the 50,481st 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 2,238th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE to be made out of 3,775 This vehicle was the 5,002nd 75 in Royal Blue (code: JFM) to be made out of 14,420 Royal Blue 75s Last edited by Ravinder; 4th November 2016 at 06:59..

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jonathan63 This is my second home CDTi Conniosseur SE HLNav Tourer and a Personal Line CDT Conniosseur SE Tourer..for the time being. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cumbria Posts: 3,639 Thanks: 340 Thanked 423 Times in 294 Posts	Thanks guys. I need to find time to do this then. Is it different from Mer wax or polish? I have a sachet of that somewhere.

4th November 2016, 10:14	#30
7T5 Gets stuck in Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: East Lothian Posts: 838 Thanks: 930 Thanked 246 Times in 185 Posts	If you want to top up the wax over winter i use this detailer. It seems to help keep the car a bit cleaner. http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/ca...2160&0&cc5_761