KV6 Induction Kit - My DIY Alternative - Page 5

cjdonny · 2nd January 2014, 22:56

Done the cover but not the cold air feed yet or shield they are waiting in the garage for a dry day!

kraanc · 3rd January 2014, 08:12

I read a review from sports car specialists about cone filters. They said, the performance might change only in certain conditions. Changing filter type changes only sound, and feel of performance is only placebo. In reality, if you change air filter expecting to get more air in, you also have to adjust fuel input to get real performance increase. Other way its just a waste of money.
AND - if you put cone filter - get a good quality one, as cheap ones letting through tiny bits of dust, as they are exposed to dust and stuff more than boxed ones.
The worst thing - there was a case in Honda club, where kids like to do "tuning" in cheap style. Honda was fitted with cone filter, cheap one. After 2 years engine died for some reason (don't remember why). When mechanics took everything apart, they discovered scratches in piston chambers. The conclusion was that cheap cone filter let through tiny particles that stacked up on pistons, burned and scratched everything inside, resulting in losing compression and performance.
So If you do this "kid style tuning" you might get louder sound, placebo effect of performance , and damaged engine in long term. Is it worth it?
I believe it's truth what they say. So my ZT won't get those things on...

MangoMan · 3rd January 2014, 08:24

Hi.
I would be interested to see this article, is there any chance of a link please?

Thanks.

MrDoodles · 3rd January 2014, 08:28

As long as all you want is more noise and worse fuel consumption, then these are the way to go!

However, MGR got their intake systems pretty spot on from the factory and the best route is a simple panel filter (like a K&N) in the standard air box!

MangoMan · 3rd January 2014, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDoodles

As long as all you want is more noise and worse fuel consumption, then these are the way to go!

I presume that is your experience, and if that being the case all fair and good. But I agree, it is slightly noisier under hard acceleration, but I got reduced fuel consumption when I had mine fitted by about 2mpg overall. But then again I did fit one of the best, a Blitz system, and I didn't change my driving style which a lot of people do just to hear the increased Induction noise, which might account for the increased fuel consumption of which you profess...

I only removed mine because of athesiastical (sic) reasons.

tareim · 3rd January 2014, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithybhoy

My 160 came with an enclosed cone filter with a cold air feed from the foglamp which was goosed and in the boot. I would of fead it from the grill area to the side but heho. Il try to find a pic with the bonnet up

that is a great way to suck up water into the engine

cjdonny · 3rd January 2014, 10:18

I like the sound :-D
performance- no gain

I have oiled my filter from a k&n kit that stops a lot getting through

kraanc · 3rd January 2014, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by MangoMan

Hi.
I would be interested to see this article, is there any chance of a link please?

Thanks.

Yes i could search again, but it is in Latvian, so not much good for You.

MangoMan · 3rd January 2014, 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraanc

Yes i could search again, but it is in Latvian, so not much good for You.

Kāpēc jūs sakāt, ka?

kraanc · 9th January 2014, 09:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MangoMan

Kāpēc jūs sakāt, ka?

Because, You probably meant "Why You say so", but that's not exactly what You got there

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3rd January 2014, 10:18	#47
cjdonny Avid contributor MG ZT V6 177 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Doncaster Posts: 226 Thanks: 90 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	I like the sound :-D performance- no gain I have oiled my filter from a k&n kit that stops a lot getting through __________________ 51st ZT in Zircon Silver Metallic (code: MUM) to be made out of 864 Zircon Silver Metallic ZTs Remapped Last edited by cjdonny; 3rd January 2014 at 14:24..

3rd January 2014, 08:12	#42
kraanc Loves to post MG ZT-T 190 2.5 V6 2003 manual Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Riga Posts: 349 Thanks: 49 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	I read a review from sports car specialists about cone filters. They said, the performance might change only in certain conditions. Changing filter type changes only sound, and feel of performance is only placebo. In reality, if you change air filter expecting to get more air in, you also have to adjust fuel input to get real performance increase. Other way its just a waste of money. AND - if you put cone filter - get a good quality one, as cheap ones letting through tiny bits of dust, as they are exposed to dust and stuff more than boxed ones. The worst thing - there was a case in Honda club, where kids like to do "tuning" in cheap style. Honda was fitted with cone filter, cheap one. After 2 years engine died for some reason (don't remember why). When mechanics took everything apart, they discovered scratches in piston chambers. The conclusion was that cheap cone filter let through tiny particles that stacked up on pistons, burned and scratched everything inside, resulting in losing compression and performance. So If you do this "kid style tuning" you might get louder sound, placebo effect of performance , and damaged engine in long term. Is it worth it? I believe it's truth what they say. So my ZT won't get those things on...

3rd January 2014, 08:28	#44
MrDoodles Banned MG ZT+ V6 190 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Spalding Posts: 13,245 Thanks: 369 Thanked 1,196 Times in 818 Posts	As long as all you want is more noise and worse fuel consumption, then these are the way to go! However, MGR got their intake systems pretty spot on from the factory and the best route is a simple panel filter (like a K&N) in the standard air box!