Heater Matrix No Clips

RugbyRover · 1st April 2017, 17:24

Went out to take my heater matrix out today, but to my horror, there was no clips or joined pipes.

2 pipes out of the matrix, straight through to the bulkhead. So could not do it. Strange, my 1.8 had the joining pipes with clips and o rings......

I have not got these joins in mine below

Any Idea's??

Thanks

Adie

DMGRS · 1st April 2017, 18:16

Late cars didn't have the join - they were a 1 piece system.
Makes it a bit more of a pain!

VVC-Geeza · 1st April 2017, 18:27

I managed to maneuver mine out by slackening the retaining brackets and undoing the connections at the matrix.It can be difficult to get them to seal again because they are crimped in.A truely awful design.I believe some people have removed a section of pipe and replaced it with hose secured with jubilee clips to make things easier.

RugbyRover · 1st April 2017, 20:56

I have no connections that's the problem , so don't no how I can get it out.

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T-Cut · 2nd April 2017, 09:52

To remove the later matrix, you have to remove the heater assembly intact which requires facia and centre console removal. Not easy and not recommended.
Better alternative is to cut the metal pipes at the same point as the earlier version had joints and repair afterwards using rubber hoses and clamps.

If it's just for a clean-out job, flush through from the engine bay by releasing the bulkhead joints.

TC

kc13661 · 2nd April 2017, 09:57

Sorry for the silly input, but can the pipes simply not be cut then a heater hose slid over the top of the two pieces and fastened with clips

roverbarmy · 2nd April 2017, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc13661

Sorry for the silly input, but can the pipes simply not be cut then a heater hose slid over the top of the two pieces and fastened with clips

Or you could join with a plumbing/compressed air type compression fitting. They are pressurised at normal engine temps.

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RugbyRover Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire (Home of Rugby Football) Posts: 1,309 Thanks: 355 Thanked 97 Times in 72 Posts	Heater Matrix No Clips Went out to take my heater matrix out today, but to my horror, there was no clips or joined pipes. 2 pipes out of the matrix, straight through to the bulkhead. So could not do it. Strange, my 1.8 had the joining pipes with clips and o rings...... I have not got these joins in mine below Any Idea's?? Thanks Adie Last edited by RugbyRover; 1st April 2017 at 17:31..

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RugbyRover Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire (Home of Rugby Football) Posts: 1,309 Thanks: 355 Thanked 97 Times in 72 Posts	Heater Matrix No Clips I have no connections that's the problem , so don't no how I can get it out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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kc13661 I really should get out more....... Freelander Td4 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Gateshead Posts: 2,332 Thanks: 704 Thanked 909 Times in 419 Posts	Sorry for the silly input, but can the pipes simply not be cut then a heater hose slid over the top of the two pieces and fastened with clips __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Growing old is compulsory.... Growing up is Optional

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T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	To remove the later matrix, you have to remove the heater assembly intact which requires facia and centre console removal. Not easy and not recommended. Better alternative is to cut the metal pipes at the same point as the earlier version had joints and repair afterwards using rubber hoses and clamps. If it's just for a clean-out job, flush through from the engine bay by releasing the bulkhead joints. TC