Replacement speakers

Arryhall · 30th March 2017, 18:04

Hello peoples. My 75 has the Harmony unit fitted with the 8 (or is it 6?) CD player in the boot. Now it's dry, everything works fine. I am going to fit my parrot mki9200 in it shortly so I can do the blutooth thing. Ultimately, I want a new touchscreen lovliness from Sean, but I also think that sometime in the not too distant future, I may swap the car for a ZTT or a 75 tourer as I miss my estate and the handiness that came along with it.
No point putting a clever and awesome unit in if I don't keep the car for long. BUT...at the moment, it sounds like my bottom! Only less bassy. And less responsive. Not bothered about loudness at all, I detest hearing that horrible thud of morons driving around with their windows rattling, but I do like quality.

So, after all that non-interesting preamble, any ideas what cheap but effective speakers I can replace the present speakers with? I presume the majority of the rubbishness of the sound is due to rubbish speakers, but again, don't need to put in vastly expensive speakers without Sean's touchscreen dribblesomeness to go with it. I've seen the HK door tweeters, but do they make much difference? The door speakers are much bigger and much more poo to my ears, both front and back.
Other than going in Halfords and listening to their speakers, I know nothing about them. Ask me about guitar amps and I know my stuff, but other than that....

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

sponge_mike · 30th March 2017, 18:45

Get a VOX AC40+ - best little amp on the planet

Mike

Christopher Price · 30th March 2017, 18:47

PM Coolcat (Geoff) he's an ICE expert on these cars and will point you in the right direction.

Arryhall · 30th March 2017, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponge_mike

Get a VOX AC40+ - best little amp on the planet

Mike

When I were at Uni, I actually ran my stereo through my Marshall stack. It sounded really Marshall-y! And loud! Students eh? Who'd want to live next to them?

Thing is....I wouldn't know how to power the Vox or a Marshall up in the car, as tempting as it may be.

sponge_mike · 30th March 2017, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arryhall

When I were at Uni, I actually ran my stereo through my Marshall stack. It sounded really Marshall-y! And loud! Students eh? Who'd want to live next to them?

Thing is....I wouldn't know how to power the Vox or a Marshall up in the car, as tempting as it may be.

Good one

Mike

mystabe · 31st March 2017, 13:17

My experience of this with the original speakers (non HK) is that the Harmony sounds like it's coming at you through several layers of tissues but has more bass, Symphony's are great for voice and 'lighter' music - in fact if you get the balance right and listen to Radio 4 in the morning you almost expect to see John Humphries sat on the back seat when you look in the rear view mirror - bass is non existent though. The Double din units have more bass, more settings to fiddle with and the sound is a bit better for a lot of music but they lack the clarity of the Symphony.

Just my opinion though

- better speakers are the way forward.

podge · 31st March 2017, 20:06

A few years ago when I fitted a Symphony unit,I remember taking the unit to bits and soldering a little circuit board inside.It boosted the output at certain frequencies and made a huge difference to the sound.I will try and do some Internet digging and find out what it was.

Arryhall · 31st March 2017, 21:31

Unfortunately, my system is a Harmony, which I think is the lowest spec unit they fitted, Played with the bass and treble and front and back and I just can't get it to sound decent. It's okay, and sounds better the louder it is, but it doesn't sound good. Figure speakers are the initial step to improvement. Then the head unit later. But did a googles search for speakers....how many million hits?

SD1too · 31st March 2017, 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arryhall

Unfortunately, my system is a Harmony... Played with the bass and treble and front and back and I just can't get it to sound decent.

The Harmony has a 'loudness' circuit which was never utilised. Send Gert a PM. One of his contacts managed to activate it and I heard how good a Harmony can sound when they came over to the UK for a tour of the Longbridge factory. He might be able to work some magic for you.

Simon

mystabe · 1st April 2017, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too

The Harmony has a 'loudness' circuit which was never utilised. Send Gert a PM. One of his contacts managed to activate it and I heard how good a Harmony can sound when they came over to the UK for a tour of the Longbridge factory. He might be able to work some magic for you.

Simon

Wasn't this for the Symphony rather than the Harmony?

30th March 2017, 18:04	#1
Arryhall Loves to post Rover 75 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Biddulph Posts: 486 Thanks: 101 Thanked 145 Times in 90 Posts	Replacement speakers Hello peoples. My 75 has the Harmony unit fitted with the 8 (or is it 6?) CD player in the boot. Now it's dry, everything works fine. I am going to fit my parrot mki9200 in it shortly so I can do the blutooth thing. Ultimately, I want a new touchscreen lovliness from Sean, but I also think that sometime in the not too distant future, I may swap the car for a ZTT or a 75 tourer as I miss my estate and the handiness that came along with it. No point putting a clever and awesome unit in if I don't keep the car for long. BUT...at the moment, it sounds like my bottom! Only less bassy. And less responsive. Not bothered about loudness at all, I detest hearing that horrible thud of morons driving around with their windows rattling, but I do like quality. So, after all that non-interesting preamble, any ideas what cheap but effective speakers I can replace the present speakers with? I presume the majority of the rubbishness of the sound is due to rubbish speakers, but again, don't need to put in vastly expensive speakers without Sean's touchscreen dribblesomeness to go with it. I've seen the HK door tweeters, but do they make much difference? The door speakers are much bigger and much more poo to my ears, both front and back. Other than going in Halfords and listening to their speakers, I know nothing about them. Ask me about guitar amps and I know my stuff, but other than that.... Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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30th March 2017, 18:45	#2
sponge_mike Gets stuck in Rover 75 Connoisseur SE CDTi Automatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Skegness Posts: 899 Thanks: 191 Thanked 157 Times in 96 Posts	Get a VOX AC40+ - best little amp on the planet Mike

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Christopher Price Banned None at the moment. Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Lincoln Posts: 753 Thanks: 151 Thanked 230 Times in 152 Posts	PM Coolcat (Geoff) he's an ICE expert on these cars and will point you in the right direction.

31st March 2017, 13:17	#6
mystabe Posted a thing or two Mazda 6 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wigan Posts: 1,384 Thanks: 266 Thanked 398 Times in 287 Posts	My experience of this with the original speakers (non HK) is that the Harmony sounds like it's coming at you through several layers of tissues but has more bass, Symphony's are great for voice and 'lighter' music - in fact if you get the balance right and listen to Radio 4 in the morning you almost expect to see John Humphries sat on the back seat when you look in the rear view mirror - bass is non existent though. The Double din units have more bass, more settings to fiddle with and the sound is a bit better for a lot of music but they lack the clarity of the Symphony. Just my opinion though - better speakers are the way forward.

31st March 2017, 21:31	#8
Arryhall Loves to post Rover 75 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Biddulph Posts: 486 Thanks: 101 Thanked 145 Times in 90 Posts	Unfortunately, my system is a Harmony, which I think is the lowest spec unit they fitted, Played with the bass and treble and front and back and I just can't get it to sound decent. It's okay, and sounds better the louder it is, but it doesn't sound good. Figure speakers are the initial step to improvement. Then the head unit later. But did a googles search for speakers....how many million hits?