Water in Rear Offside Footwell

Lazyhound · 18th September 2015, 08:09

Hello Everyone - this is my 1st message as I only joined yesterday!
I am now the proud owner of 2 weeks of my first ever Rover (04 2.5V6 Tourer) and the car is beautiful - however after a torrential downpour yesterday I noticed water in the rear passenger foot well on the drivers side, collecting at the drivers seat-belt anchor point.
I have checked all the Plenum holes in the bulkhead and although the middle one below the pollen filter was blocked the area was dry.
Have got a sunroof fitted so any ideas would be much appreciated.

Regards
Lazyhound

Coups · 18th September 2015, 08:29

Good morning Simon, welcome to the club.

Im sure you have done this already but have you had a good look around the rubber door seals on the drivers side doors. They are easy to damage if caught. Depending on how the rain was falling it may have found a way in and collected in the footwell. I did have a problem with the seals not sealing which in my case was giving a lot of wind noise. A smear of silicon grease around the rubbers revitalised them and just about eliminated the noise.

I'm not sur about the sunroof drains but have an idea they drain down the A pillars. If its only the rear footwell that's damp I don't think it would be that, although I may well be wrong......

Nev The Bear · 18th September 2015, 08:45

When I had wet carpets pn the passenger side of my previous Rover 75 it was the sunroof drain behind the glovebox. The two sections of drain pipe had seperated. May not be the source of the leak you have, but I thought I would post a link up so you can check and repair if required.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=118622

Ken Lion · 18th September 2015, 09:30

As Nev (Clyde) says above, front nearside sunroof drain is the likely culprit and the link he posted to Actic's blow by blow account on how to fix it will help you sort it.

Even if it's just the front nearside that's the problem now, you'll probably need to sort all 4 drains as soon as you can and the link covers all of them.

But the front nearside is do-able in less than 2hrs even by a butter-fingers like me (30mins to someone experienced) and is nothing like as daunting as you might think as you read through it.

The latter part of Arctic's fix involves trimming the flattened 'duck-bill' ends of the lower part of the drain tubes which poke out into the wheel arches (you have to peel back each wheel arch cover to get at them).
My advice would be to do that first because that's where the build-up of debris is likely to have occurred. This alone won't solve your problem if the two halves of the drain tube have separated behind the glove box but may buy you some time with the other drains which have not yet separated.

Also, on no account should you 'rod' the drains from above unless it's done as part of the fix process because, as I found, in doing so you would probably cause the separation of the tubes in the other three corners.

shaunscully75 · 18th September 2015, 13:40

I'd be getting underneath and checking that the plenum drain rubber nozzles are still in situ, if there's just a hole then what's happened is that some previous owner hasn't realized that the plenum floor is a double skinned affair, they've pulled out the nozzles to increase water flow but water then gets under the plenum floor and into the cabin. Fills up the rear footwells after it's saturated the foam beneath the carpets..

chris65 · 18th September 2015, 13:51

Hi,had the same problem,sunroof drain blocked,follow Arctics how to,then spend the next month drying the carpet out!,you won't believe how much water is in there.

Mike24 · 18th September 2015, 16:48

Not wishing to add to the list of places to check, but when I got mine I lifted the rear seat and found water underneath (the car dealer had obviously mopped the water out of the spare wheel compartment, which I checked before buying the car). This can then slop forward during braking and make the rear carpet wet. In my case the main culprit was the rear light seals; these often part company at the bottom allowing water into the boot, and from there into the passenger compartment. The seals can be superglued back together and then reinstalled with vaseline or silicone grease. A further (but much smaller leak) was from the clips holding the rear window seal in place. This leak was cured with a product called Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure. There have also been reports of problems with the boot seal, the vents at the bottom of the rear wings, and the clips holding the chrome strips onto the rear wings. If the leak is from a single source you may count yourself fortunate!

Ken Lion · 18th September 2015, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike24

Not wishing to add to the list of places to check, ... In my case the main culprit was the rear light seals; these often part company at the bottom allowing water into the boot, and from there into the passenger compartment. ....

It's a tourer Mike so no rear light seals but no doubt the other points are valid.

bigblue75 · 18th September 2015, 19:00

Hi and welcome Simon, sorry for asking this here- not trying to hijack the thread. Mods please remove if I am wrong to post this here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaunscully75

I'd be getting underneath and checking that the plenum drain rubber nozzles are still in situ, if there's just a hole then what's happened is that some previous owner hasn't realized that the plenum floor is a double skinned affair, they've pulled out the nozzles to increase water flow but water then gets under the plenum floor and into the cabin. Fills up the rear footwells after it's saturated the foam beneath the carpets..

The plenum nozzle beneath my ECU was missing when I got the car and the pollen filter showed evidence of water being trapped at some point... I assume a previous owner removed the nozzle to prevent refilling BUT this may be why my nearside rear footwell was soaked and the side impact sensor on the passenger side kaput.

Have got the carpet dry over the last month and would like it to stay that way.
Is there a way to replace a missing nozzle if I can get hold of one? also, Can a side impact sensor be tested before fitment?

alanjay · 18th September 2015, 19:10

When I bought my first 75 the salesman told me Rover put water in the rear foot well in case I need to top up the radiator.
Never needed to use it but reassuring that Rover thought of everything.

18th September 2015, 08:09	#1
Lazyhound Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southsea Posts: 35 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Water in Rear Offside Footwell Hello Everyone - this is my 1st message as I only joined yesterday! I am now the proud owner of 2 weeks of my first ever Rover (04 2.5V6 Tourer) and the car is beautiful - however after a torrential downpour yesterday I noticed water in the rear passenger foot well on the drivers side, collecting at the drivers seat-belt anchor point. I have checked all the Plenum holes in the bulkhead and although the middle one below the pollen filter was blocked the area was dry. Have got a sunroof fitted so any ideas would be much appreciated. Regards Lazyhound

18th September 2015, 13:51	#6
chris65 Avid contributor mg zt-t Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: kenilworth Posts: 228 Thanks: 684 Thanked 44 Times in 32 Posts	water in rear footwell Hi,had the same problem,sunroof drain blocked,follow Arctics how to,then spend the next month drying the carpet out!,you won't believe how much water is in there.

18th September 2015, 08:29	#2
Coups Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Contemporary SE Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,941 Thanks: 545 Thanked 520 Times in 402 Posts	Good morning Simon, welcome to the club. Im sure you have done this already but have you had a good look around the rubber door seals on the drivers side doors. They are easy to damage if caught. Depending on how the rain was falling it may have found a way in and collected in the footwell. I did have a problem with the seals not sealing which in my case was giving a lot of wind noise. A smear of silicon grease around the rubbers revitalised them and just about eliminated the noise. I'm not sur about the sunroof drains but have an idea they drain down the A pillars. If its only the rear footwell that's damp I don't think it would be that, although I may well be wrong......

18th September 2015, 08:45	#3
Nev The Bear This is my second home Does not matter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: . Posts: 3,996 Thanks: 2,397 Thanked 1,575 Times in 987 Posts	When I had wet carpets pn the passenger side of my previous Rover 75 it was the sunroof drain behind the glovebox. The two sections of drain pipe had seperated. May not be the source of the leak you have, but I thought I would post a link up so you can check and repair if required. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=118622

18th September 2015, 09:30	#4
Ken Lion Gets stuck in R75 2.0 CDT Club SE Tourer Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 617 Thanks: 105 Thanked 101 Times in 89 Posts	As Nev (Clyde) says above, front nearside sunroof drain is the likely culprit and the link he posted to Actic's blow by blow account on how to fix it will help you sort it. Even if it's just the front nearside that's the problem now, you'll probably need to sort all 4 drains as soon as you can and the link covers all of them. But the front nearside is do-able in less than 2hrs even by a butter-fingers like me (30mins to someone experienced) and is nothing like as daunting as you might think as you read through it. The latter part of Arctic's fix involves trimming the flattened 'duck-bill' ends of the lower part of the drain tubes which poke out into the wheel arches (you have to peel back each wheel arch cover to get at them). My advice would be to do that first because that's where the build-up of debris is likely to have occurred. This alone won't solve your problem if the two halves of the drain tube have separated behind the glove box but may buy you some time with the other drains which have not yet separated. Also, on no account should you 'rod' the drains from above unless it's done as part of the fix process because, as I found, in doing so you would probably cause the separation of the tubes in the other three corners.

18th September 2015, 13:40	#5
shaunscully75 Avid contributor none at the moment Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blackpool, UK Posts: 122 Thanks: 3 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts	I'd be getting underneath and checking that the plenum drain rubber nozzles are still in situ, if there's just a hole then what's happened is that some previous owner hasn't realized that the plenum floor is a double skinned affair, they've pulled out the nozzles to increase water flow but water then gets under the plenum floor and into the cabin. Fills up the rear footwells after it's saturated the foam beneath the carpets..

18th September 2015, 16:48	#7
Mike24 Loves to post Rover 75 CDTI Auto Saloon Connoisseur SE Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Coventry Posts: 358 Thanks: 166 Thanked 67 Times in 56 Posts	Not wishing to add to the list of places to check, but when I got mine I lifted the rear seat and found water underneath (the car dealer had obviously mopped the water out of the spare wheel compartment, which I checked before buying the car). This can then slop forward during braking and make the rear carpet wet. In my case the main culprit was the rear light seals; these often part company at the bottom allowing water into the boot, and from there into the passenger compartment. The seals can be superglued back together and then reinstalled with vaseline or silicone grease. A further (but much smaller leak) was from the clips holding the rear window seal in place. This leak was cured with a product called Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure. There have also been reports of problems with the boot seal, the vents at the bottom of the rear wings, and the clips holding the chrome strips onto the rear wings. If the leak is from a single source you may count yourself fortunate!

18th September 2015, 19:10	#10
alanjay Passed Away Rover 75 Connie Tourer Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Guildford Posts: 2,582 Thanks: 682 Thanked 979 Times in 612 Posts	When I bought my first 75 the salesman told me Rover put water in the rear foot well in case I need to top up the radiator. Never needed to use it but reassuring that Rover thought of everything.