clutch master cylinder - Page 2

Mel Dawson · 4th May 2011, 19:43

Hi,
Sorry i have no photos of this as my know how on posting photos is zero.Anyway this is how i done it,I used a m/cyl cap from a gunson bleed kit removing the m/cyl diaphragm & putting the pipe through the hole with the grommet in that you can see in Artics photo,i then made a backet to hold the resorvior that i fitted to the spare stud on the rear of servo housing making sure to keep it as high as possible so the fluid can run down it o.k (as in Artics photo) I used a m/cyl resorvior that i found in scrap yard from a old 5 series BMW but i think a m/cycle one will do,When i came to fit pipe onto BMW resorvior i found i had a problem with it being a different size so i used a larger size piece of tube that fitted over gunson original & used a piece of copper pipe inside so that i could use a jubilee to clamp it.

Cheers Mel.

Arctic · 4th May 2011, 21:07

Hi would one of these do below do you think for the clutch mod .
http://tinyurl.com/3p99qlt

http://tinyurl.com/3uvl92q

T-Cut · 5th May 2011, 00:25

I think anything like those tanks will do. The mounting place can be anywhere accessible under the bonnet. The connecting pipe needs to be resistant to brake fluid, but most plastics are I think. Conventional plastic hose suitable for petrol/oil will do or maybe silicone if you fancy that. It doesn't have to take any pressure so needn't be braided or toughened. Simple push fit ends will do. All it's doing is supplying brake fluid down to the master cylinder tank, it's very simple.

TC

Arctic · 5th May 2011, 00:45

HI so would pipe like this do the job or wpould it need to be more rigid how would this be fixed into the sealed clutch reservior already situated on top of the clutch so it would not leek

Mel Dawson · 5th May 2011, 06:31

Hi,
That type of pipe will do but you must seal it on clutch m/cyl otherwise it may leak & the more flexible the better.

Cheers Mel.

Arctic · 5th May 2011, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mel Dawson

Hi,
That type of pipe will do but you must seal it on clutch m/cyl otherwise it may leak & the more flexible the better.

Cheers Mel.

HI Mel m/cyl

in real words

was thinking of drilling original reservior cap and inserting a copper joint through it. to fit pipe to this could then be stuck with liquid metal

T-Cut · 5th May 2011, 10:27

Drilling and fitting a metal pipe connector through a screw-on cap is difficult IMO and hardly worth the work involved. You also destroy your only clutch cap if things don't work out. The best solution is a replacement plastic cap with a moulded-on pipe nozzle. As noted, you get these in various sizes with the cheap one-man brake bleeding kits. That soft plastic pipe that comes with the bleed kit would be ideal for connecting up. You need a vent in the upper reservoir like the brakes master, but the lower cylinder one should be unvented. You don't really have to remove all the air from the lower reservoir either, much of it will bubble upwards anyway. Its simply to enable fluid replacement to the old reservoir.

TC

4th May 2011, 21:07	#12
Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,726 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	Hi would one of these do below do you think for the clutch mod . http://tinyurl.com/3p99qlt http://tinyurl.com/3uvl92q __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "

5th May 2011, 00:45	#14
Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,726 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	HI so would pipe like this do the job or wpould it need to be more rigid how would this be fixed into the sealed clutch reservior already situated on top of the clutch so it would not leek __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "

4th May 2011, 19:43	#11
Mel Dawson Passed Away 2004 facelift saloon cdti se connoisser Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brixham Posts: 765 Thanks: 88 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	Hi, Sorry i have no photos of this as my know how on posting photos is zero.Anyway this is how i done it,I used a m/cyl cap from a gunson bleed kit removing the m/cyl diaphragm & putting the pipe through the hole with the grommet in that you can see in Artics photo,i then made a backet to hold the resorvior that i fitted to the spare stud on the rear of servo housing making sure to keep it as high as possible so the fluid can run down it o.k (as in Artics photo) I used a m/cyl resorvior that i found in scrap yard from a old 5 series BMW but i think a m/cycle one will do,When i came to fit pipe onto BMW resorvior i found i had a problem with it being a different size so i used a larger size piece of tube that fitted over gunson original & used a piece of copper pipe inside so that i could use a jubilee to clamp it. Cheers Mel.

5th May 2011, 00:25	#13
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	I think anything like those tanks will do. The mounting place can be anywhere accessible under the bonnet. The connecting pipe needs to be resistant to brake fluid, but most plastics are I think. Conventional plastic hose suitable for petrol/oil will do or maybe silicone if you fancy that. It doesn't have to take any pressure so needn't be braided or toughened. Simple push fit ends will do. All it's doing is supplying brake fluid down to the master cylinder tank, it's very simple. TC

5th May 2011, 06:31	#15
Mel Dawson Passed Away 2004 facelift saloon cdti se connoisser Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brixham Posts: 765 Thanks: 88 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	Hi, That type of pipe will do but you must seal it on clutch m/cyl otherwise it may leak & the more flexible the better. Cheers Mel.

5th May 2011, 10:27	#17
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	Drilling and fitting a metal pipe connector through a screw-on cap is difficult IMO and hardly worth the work involved. You also destroy your only clutch cap if things don't work out. The best solution is a replacement plastic cap with a moulded-on pipe nozzle. As noted, you get these in various sizes with the cheap one-man brake bleeding kits. That soft plastic pipe that comes with the bleed kit would be ideal for connecting up. You need a vent in the upper reservoir like the brakes master, but the lower cylinder one should be unvented. You don't really have to remove all the air from the lower reservoir either, much of it will bubble upwards anyway. Its simply to enable fluid replacement to the old reservoir. TC