Rover 75 CDTI 2005 Saloon

bazzer 29 · 16th March 2008, 08:24

Hi all
Having just bought my rover 75 I dedided to look into retro fitting some sort of sat nav into the car, after searching on ebay for all the various parts to install the OE system with the disk system, I came across the smartnav system. after researching this system on the web I decided to go down this route. Having purchased the system on ebay as a brand new item with all instuctions and in a box, I went about fitting, not easy without a wiring diagram. I've got all the hardware fitted and conected the 5 wires from the button to the ECU and the two grey wires to the speaker, the black wire to earth that leaves me 4 wires. One red which I assume is a live, one purple, one white and one gold colour, the system doesn't have the touch screen yet although i am looking to get one. Can anyone help with four wires left and where they should connect to? I have searched the web thoroughly and can't find the answer, this is how I came across the owners club, I wasn't aware of a club for newer cars I used to belong to the Triumph 2000 - 2500 Register back in the late 80s and early 90s.

Kandyman · 16th March 2008, 13:20

Hi Bazzer,

Welcome to the forums and the owners club.

Sorry i cant help with the problem your smartnav system, i have not heard of anyone retro fitting one, maybe your the first on here ?

Maybe post some picture up of your installation which might help other members in the furture.

I was a member of the TSSC a few years back with my Triumph Vitesse MK2

DoDo · 16th March 2008, 13:27

to the club Bazzer.

John has this system factory fitted, i'll see if I can get him to take it apart.

Kandyman · 16th March 2008, 14:05

DoDo you just want John out the house for the day so you can get some peace and watch the F1

alan4video · 16th March 2008, 22:31

Hi Bazzer,
I have Smartnav in mine, but never used it due to it needing a subscription and I use satnav about 6 times a year. As far as I am aware there is no touch screen, it uses voice only and commands are spoken to you once the central station know your destination.
On my Rave diagram it's as follows
4 wires from switch to ecu, 2 to speaker, 2 to microphone, earth and 2 feeds from fuse's 9 and 11 in the passenger fuse box. It also mentions a GPS-1 and GSM-1 antenna.
The wires in my diagram are different colours to what you mention. If you require it I can scan and send the diagram I have to you, but I don't think it will help much.
Good luck
Alan.

sworks · 17th March 2008, 06:55

The touch screen is optional and costs about £200. I will look at my installation instruction later and find out the colours (there are some wires that aren't used) Is the controll box a square item with opening front section or a rounded cornered sealed unit?

sworks · 17th March 2008, 20:25

Grey
Grey/black speaker (may have a 3.5 jack plug)
blue ignition live on crank
black earth
red constant live
make sure the power connector goes in the top row

brown, white and purple not used (maybe the brown is your gold)

switch / main harness
red ---- orange or red/orange
brown/yellow brown/yellow
blue ignition live on cank
green green
yellow yellow

always plug the box in last.
disclaimer :-
this is the info i have but use at your own risk!

bazzer 29 · 18th March 2008, 17:13

Hi All thanks for great welcome

It would appear from the responses that there are possibly two different models of the smart nav. Mine is the one with the lift up flap on one edge, I should be able to manage the remaining wiring following the info from you all, Could the extra wires be for the optional touch screen?
I will let you know the results as I plan to try and sort it this weekend.
I intend to opt for the pay as you go deal that Traffic master offer, 89p per route as I won't use the directions side often enough to warrant the subscription cost. Does anyone use the speed camera detection with it and is it any good, and is it worth the annual subs?

Thanks for every ones help

Barry

sworks · 18th March 2008, 21:02

If it has the lift up flap it is the earlier of the two systems. The touch screen connecter fits into the spare pins where the power connecter fits. Did you get an 02 sim card with the kit? If so you need to fit it into an 02 phone and wait a few minuites and make sure you don't receive any text messages before fitting into the holder in the controll unit.
The speed camera location is quite good but not sure how much extra it costs.

16th March 2008, 08:24	#1
bazzer 29 Newbie Rover 75 CDTI Saloon 2005 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buckley, Flintshire, North Wales Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rover 75 CDTI 2005 Saloon, Smart nav fitting Hi all Having just bought my rover 75 I dedided to look into retro fitting some sort of sat nav into the car, after searching on ebay for all the various parts to install the OE system with the disk system, I came across the smartnav system. after researching this system on the web I decided to go down this route. Having purchased the system on ebay as a brand new item with all instuctions and in a box, I went about fitting, not easy without a wiring diagram. I've got all the hardware fitted and conected the 5 wires from the button to the ECU and the two grey wires to the speaker, the black wire to earth that leaves me 4 wires. One red which I assume is a live, one purple, one white and one gold colour, the system doesn't have the touch screen yet although i am looking to get one. Can anyone help with four wires left and where they should connect to? I have searched the web thoroughly and can't find the answer, this is how I came across the owners club, I wasn't aware of a club for newer cars I used to belong to the Triumph 2000 - 2500 Register back in the late 80s and early 90s. Last edited by bazzer 29; 16th March 2008 at 12:44.. Reason: Title

16th March 2008, 13:27	#3
DoDo Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Wales Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	to the club Bazzer. John has this system factory fitted, i'll see if I can get him to take it apart. __________________ Dodo. God may have created man before woman, but there is always a rough draft before the masterpiece .

17th March 2008, 20:25	#7
sworks Been absent for a while… Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,065 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	Grey Grey/black speaker (may have a 3.5 jack plug) blue ignition live on crank black earth red constant live make sure the power connector goes in the top row brown, white and purple not used (maybe the brown is your gold) switch / main harness red ---- orange or red/orange brown/yellow brown/yellow blue ignition live on cank green green yellow yellow always plug the box in last. disclaimer :- this is the info i have but use at your own risk! Last edited by sworks; 17th March 2008 at 20:28.. Reason: too many spaces

18th March 2008, 17:13	#8
bazzer 29 Newbie Rover 75 CDTI Saloon 2005 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buckley, Flintshire, North Wales Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Smart Nav Installation Hi All thanks for great welcome It would appear from the responses that there are possibly two different models of the smart nav. Mine is the one with the lift up flap on one edge, I should be able to manage the remaining wiring following the info from you all, Could the extra wires be for the optional touch screen? I will let you know the results as I plan to try and sort it this weekend. I intend to opt for the pay as you go deal that Traffic master offer, 89p per route as I won't use the directions side often enough to warrant the subscription cost. Does anyone use the speed camera detection with it and is it any good, and is it worth the annual subs? Thanks for every ones help Barry

18th March 2008, 21:02	#9
sworks Been absent for a while… Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,065 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	If it has the lift up flap it is the earlier of the two systems. The touch screen connecter fits into the spare pins where the power connecter fits. Did you get an 02 sim card with the kit? If so you need to fit it into an 02 phone and wait a few minuites and make sure you don't receive any text messages before fitting into the holder in the controll unit. The speed camera location is quite good but not sure how much extra it costs. Last edited by sworks; 18th March 2008 at 21:04.. Reason: more info

16th March 2008, 13:20	#2
Kandyman Banned ROVER 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE Limousine 2004 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Welling Posts: 10,995 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Hi Bazzer, Welcome to the forums and the owners club. Sorry i cant help with the problem your smartnav system, i have not heard of anyone retro fitting one, maybe your the first on here ? Maybe post some picture up of your installation which might help other members in the furture. I was a member of the TSSC a few years back with my Triumph Vitesse MK2

16th March 2008, 14:05	#4
Kandyman Banned ROVER 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE Limousine 2004 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Welling Posts: 10,995 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	DoDo you just want John out the house for the day so you can get some peace and watch the F1

16th March 2008, 22:31	#5
alan4video Regular poster Facelift Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rainham Posts: 54 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Bazzer, I have Smartnav in mine, but never used it due to it needing a subscription and I use satnav about 6 times a year. As far as I am aware there is no touch screen, it uses voice only and commands are spoken to you once the central station know your destination. On my Rave diagram it's as follows 4 wires from switch to ecu, 2 to speaker, 2 to microphone, earth and 2 feeds from fuse's 9 and 11 in the passenger fuse box. It also mentions a GPS-1 and GSM-1 antenna. The wires in my diagram are different colours to what you mention. If you require it I can scan and send the diagram I have to you, but I don't think it will help much. Good luck Alan.

17th March 2008, 06:55	#6
sworks Been absent for a while… Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,065 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	The touch screen is optional and costs about £200. I will look at my installation instruction later and find out the colours (there are some wires that aren't used) Is the controll box a square item with opening front section or a rounded cornered sealed unit?