lower engine mount bush

[Rawlinz]

hey folks, i presumed changing the large lower engine mount bush was simple and went ahead and tried to get it out but the bolt didnt come out far enough ( as the exhaust manifold or something i beleive was stopping it ) i really dont need to take the exhaust manifold off do i ? ive tried looking for a how-to on this but cant seem to find one if anyone could point me in the right direction ? cheers

[Rawlinz]

ah its the lambda sensor isn't it, do i just remove that then problem solved? and replace afterwards obv... ta

[RN3212]

Remove the Sensor and lever the exhaust down and the bolt comes out.

[Rawlinz]

Remove the Sensor and lever the exhaust down and the bolt comes out.

thanks, now the better way of getting the old bushes out please? lol ill show u a pic of old engine mount once im done, im sure u will like it !

[Rawlinz]

will someone tell me how the **** without a vice u can get the ***** poweflex ***** bush in the **** mount before i saw the ****'er up !! lol

[Bobon]

will someone tell me how the **** without a vice u can get the ***** poweflex ***** bush in the **** mount before i saw the ****'er up !! lol

Just done this at the weekend myself see here (http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=126913),what a pig of a job.I had to get my son to press down while I poked and pressed with a blunt screw driver.As with anything tight use lots of lube;)

The V6 is better suited to the yellow bush than the 1.8 so no holes needed in yours.

[Rawlinz]

I can bench press 140kg but jesus christ my lad!!!! tried EVERYTHINGGGG with this damn thing it just WONT GO IN!!!!!!!!!!! !

[Rawlinz]

right im drilling holes like u, **** this ****

[ProfDave]

That is a bit strange; I must have (excuse the comment) lubed it up just right as my Diesel one was very easy to do the entire job taking just over 30 mins. (The longest bit being fiddling about with the undertray)

[Rawlinz]

That is a bit strange; I must have (excuse the comment) lubed it up just right as my Diesel one was very easy to do the entire job taking just over 30 mins. (The longest bit being fiddling about with the undertray)

thanks for that, lol. seriously........ it aint goin in im right ****ed off got a meeting in the morning :mad:

[tonybel]

I did mine about a month ago, though, once stripped out of the car it turned out that it didn't need doing.

Getting the bolt out with the exhaust in the way was one thing, getting it back in was another.

I spent about an hour with no luck trying to get the new bush in, and in the end with three of us holding and leavering it and about another hour, it popped in place.

I spent that evening quietly re-reading all the comments from other members saying how easy it was...

Yeh, really? Now try a V6

[Rawlinz]

I did mine about a month ago, though, once stripped out of the car it turned out that it didn't need doing.

Getting the bolt out with the exhaust in the way was one thing, getting it back in was another.

I spent about an hour with no luck trying to get the new bush in, and in the end with three of us holding and leavering it and about another hour, it popped in place.

I spent that evening quietly re-reading all the comments from other members saying how easy it was...

Yeh, really? Now try a V6

exactly, i'm still here 3 hours later :shrug: :getmecoat: :mad::mad:

[ProfDave]

I guess as mine is a red one (for the diesel) that the compound is not so stiff; from what I can gather (and slightly counter intuitive) the yellow ones are stiffer (excuse the contiued innuendo) and the red ones less so so that the fillings of the diesel occupants are not rattled out.

[Arctic]

I did mine about a month ago, though, once stripped out of the car it turned out that it didn't need doing.

Getting the bolt out with the exhaust in the way was one thing, getting it back in was another.

I spent about an hour with no luck trying to get the new bush in, and in the end with three of us holding and leavering it and about another hour, it popped in place.

I spent that evening quietly re-reading all the comments from other members saying how easy it was...

Yeh, really? Now try a V6

exactly, i'm still here 3 hours later :shrug: :getmecoat: :mad::mad:

Hi Tony/Rob.
I have done several of these now including my own and yes the petrol bush is a little harder to insert into the mount lube the inside of the mount and one side of the bush tilt it at 60 degree angle then work it round opushing a little bit each time, if you do get stuck either bolt the small end down to a bench or if you do not have one screw it to a fence post or piece of wood so you leave the large end hanging over then push it in but pushing the centre in use a wooden dowl if you have too but really that is extreme.

Also you could try some large mole grips good luck Arctic.;)
http://i48.tinypic.com/35andhs.jpg

[Arctic]

I did mine about a month ago, though, once stripped out of the car it turned out that it didn't need doing.

Getting the bolt out with the exhaust in the way was one thing, getting it back in was another.

I spent about an hour with no luck trying to get the new bush in, and in the end with three of us holding and leavering it and about another hour, it popped in place.

I spent that evening quietly re-reading all the comments from other members saying how easy it was...

Yeh, really? Now try a V6


Hi Tony.
You will be wrestling with the dreaded carpet on Sunday doing the handbrake mod :D so keep some energy for then ;) Arctic.

[Mr_Shed]

Hi Rawlinz

I was thinking it was only me having difficulty when i changed mine couple weeks ago.

Remove lambda sensor, careful with cables so they don’t chaff as they twist, keep the twist when undone so when refitted cable will be 'straight' again.

Old one out, started with vice, but was easier to hammer out supporting the ali bracket.

Right refitting the bush, lubricate it well with washing up liquid, support bracket on floor, push it in at an angle, keep fair bit of even pressure on top bush (someone with foot on it) while you gently push in the 'lip' with something blunt. Working one side to the other bit by bit, will feel like getting no where then all of sudden will fly in when friction is reduced by lip.

Hope this helps.

Tony

[Rawlinz]

finally done, but... i chizzeled some of the lip off ( not on purpose the screwdriver was obviously not blunt enough lol ) but it seems fine and now attempting to re-fit it, now im stuck with the bolt not going back in, so back to the drawing board for another step !! lol, but thankyou so much for the replies folks and thanks for putting up with my french haha. any ideas on the bolt anyone? (sensor socket base is in the way) lol

[Mr_Shed]

finally done, but... i chizzeled some of the lip off ( not on purpose the screwdriver was obviously not blunt enough lol ) but it seems fine and now attempting to re-fit it, now im stuck with the bolt not going back in, so back to the drawing board for another step !! lol, but thankyou so much for the replies folks and thanks for putting up with my french haha. any ideas on the bolt anyone? (sensor socket base is in the way) lol

When I did mine I had to lever the engine forward fair bit, can't remember exact points I used but think was bolt in chassis near engine lower mount and exhaust. Be careful as dont want to place too much stress on exhaust manifolds.

[Rawlinz]

When I did mine I had to lever the engine forward fair bit, can't remember exact points I used but think was bolt in chassis near engine lower mount and exhaust. Be careful as dont want to place too much stress on exhaust manifolds.

bolt in chassis near engine lower mount and exhaust? :s

[Arctic]

finally done, but... i chizzeled some of the lip off ( not on purpose the screwdriver was obviously not blunt enough lol ) but it seems fine and now attempting to re-fit it, now im stuck with the bolt not going back in, so back to the drawing board for another step !! lol, but thankyou so much for the replies folks and thanks for putting up with my french haha. any ideas on the bolt anyone? (sensor socket base is in the way) lol

Hi you should be able to move the engine enough to line up the bolt first try fitting the large end of the bush at an angle at the same time pushing the engine forward towards the front bumper or better still if you have a friend or family person whom can rock the engine from above, if this fails feed top end of bush in then fit small bush bolt do not tighten right up and the move the engine, if Auto it must be in Nautral with the sensor always best to unplug it before taking out that way wire will not twist, ;)

[Bobon]

I was round at a breaker friend of mine today he took off the exhaust nuts with an angle grinder to take out the engine mount on a V6 he had in.The 1.8 is dead easy nothing in the way.The mount was in perfect condition and he wanted £15 for it,he had a 1.8 petrol one in too for £15 so I bought that as a spare in case my poly bush fails.Wish I'd seen him first as the yellow bushes are indeed a swine to fit and it cost me a tenner more.

[Rawlinz]

I was round at a breaker friend of mine today he took off the exhaust nuts with an angle grinder to take out the engine mount on a V6 he had in.The 1.8 is dead easy nothing in the way.The mount was in perfect condition and he wanted £15 for it,he had a 1.8 petrol one in too for £15 so I bought that as a spare in case my poly bush fails.Wish I'd seen him first as the yellow bushes are indeed a swine to fit and it cost me a tenner more. indeed they are, i've got it in eventually though, fitted n dun at last! just took her out for a spin and no knocking woop woop love it! cheers again guys im just glad i werent the only one to struggle lol

[Arctic]

I was round at a breaker friend of mine today he took off the exhaust nuts with an angle grinder to take out the engine mount on a V6 he had in.The 1.8 is dead easy nothing in the way.The mount was in perfect condition and he wanted £15 for it,he had a 1.8 petrol one in too for £15 so I bought that as a spare in case my poly bush fails.Wish I'd seen him first as the yellow bushes are indeed a swine to fit and cost a tenner more.


I have removed several 1.8 engine mounts and when you look at then you think they are ok untill you put a screw driver in the hole and test them i bet you either find a fine dark line the start of the spliting or they are very slightly split already
http://i50.tinypic.com/2dc7ktl.jpg


http://i47.tinypic.com/35jic8n.jpg

[Arctic]

indeed they are, i've got it in eventually though, fitted n dun at last! just took her out for a spin and no knocking woop woop love it! cheers again guys im just glad i werent the only one to struggle lol


Great check again for tightness in a week what method did you use in the end to line the bolt up and get it in Arctic.

[Rawlinz]

Great check again for tightness in a week what method did you use in the end to line the bolt up and get it in Arctic.

I was scared to rock the car about at first as its on flimsy ramps but as soon as u said u should be able to get it in by giving it a shove i went out n did it with a flimsy light on my key ring lol, well happy now cheers m8

[Arctic]

I was scared to rock the car about at first as its on flimsy ramps but as soon as u said u should be able to get it in by giving it a shove i went out n did it with a flimsy light on my key ring lol, well happy now cheers m8

Glad to hear you got it sorted i doubt you would push it off the ramps the engine should be floating on the top engine mounts and should give a little but always best if you have someone moving the engine from above good work cheers Arctic :bowdown:

[Rawlinz]

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/11200577/640/11200577.jpg

heres mine... lol

[Arctic]

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/11200577/640/11200577.jpg

heres mine... lol

Yes just as bad as Dominics when we fitted his not long back any vibration or clunking check the lower mount ;)
http://i46.tinypic.com/smsidh.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ch7xcn.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2mpkdwy.jpg

[Arctic]

Quick bit of fun for you :D and quite quick ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPIFhhT87U&feature=share&list=UUcGnDN8CswzWShpKlaa5H9g

[ProfDave]

I used a hot air stripper to warm up the mount and then it came out much more easily!

[Bobon]

I have removed several 1.8 engine mounts and when you look at then you think they are ok untill you put a screw driver in the hole and test them i bet you either find a fine dark line the start of the spliting or they are very slightly split already
http://i50.tinypic.com/2dc7ktl.jpg


http://i47.tinypic.com/35jic8n.jpg

Yeah Steve I must admit my original mount rubber only had a tiny crack and when turned opened up like the one in the picture.The one I got from the breaker is rock solid almost new looking too,maybe a replacement.

The one in the picture has a T on it, is it a diesel mount?The 1.8 mounts I have seen had M on them.

My new mount:}
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/9744/p1010516y.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/p1010516y.jpg/)

[Arctic]

Yeah Steve I must admit my original mount rubber only had a tiny crack and when turned opened up like the one in the picture.The one I got from the breaker is rock solid almost new looking too,maybe a replacement.

The one in the picture has a T on it, is it a diesel mount?The 1.8 mounts I have seen had M on them.

My new mount:}
http://imageshack.us/a/img62/9744/p1010516y.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/p1010516y.jpg/)

HI Yes T was from diesel your M from 1.8 and P from 2.5 petrol think the T maybe for turbo but not sure never really looked into it :D in your photo above i can just see a faint black line the very start of the strain where it splits left of the M and at the bottom down stroke of the M Arctic.

[Chuckles]

On our Airstream it has two front air springs that are fed through a small hole in the lower wishbone. That too is a pig to do unless the bag is heated.

Try putting the bush into an oven for about 3-5 mins., so it warms up all the way through. Not too hot.

With even heat the material becomes more plyable. As the bushes are a similar material I am sure this will help.

Also polish the metal around the hole on the side the bush goes into and loads of washing up liquid.

[ZEDboy1990]

I managed to get the bolt out by wedging the sump to one side and did not remove the lambada sensor. Another pair of hands would aid you in doing this.

[steando]

Just spent 2 hours fitting power flex engine mount on my cdti.Had the engine mount off in 5 minutes once it was up on ramps.Old bush was destroyed but the small one was fine.Was a bit of a ****** to get the metal ring out but a hacksaw,a small cold chisel and a lot of swearing got it out.Trying to get the new mount in proved tricky but I thought of a novel way to get it in.Got three quarters of the bush in but could not force the last bit in so I jacked the rear wheel up,balanced the engine mount on two bricks,placed a piece of wood above the bush then slowly lowered the wheel onto the wood. The weight of the car forced the remainder of the bush in with a little bit of help from a screwdriver.I had to move the mount back a bit so the weight was forcing the bush slightly backwards.I should of took a few pictures really.It was quite easy and you could keep good control of the weight you were putting on with the jack.Car is much better now with no movement from the engine.All in all not a difficult job at all

[Arctic]

Just spent 2 hours fitting power flex engine mount on my cdti.Had the engine mount off in 5 minutes once it was up on ramps.Old bush was destroyed but the small one was fine.Was a bit of a ****** to get the metal ring out but a hacksaw,a small cold chisel and a lot of swearing got it out.Trying to get the new mount in proved tricky but I thought of a novel way to get it in.Got three quarters of the bush in but could not force the last bit in so I jacked the rear wheel up,balanced the engine mount on two bricks,placed a piece of wood above the bush then slowly lowered the wheel onto the wood. The weight of the car forced the remainder of the bush in with a little bit of help from a screwdriver.I had to move the mount back a bit so the weight was forcing the bush slightly backwards.I should of took a few pictures really.It was quite easy and you could keep good control of the weight you were putting on with the jack.Car is much better now with no movement from the engine.All in all not a difficult job at all

HI Stephen
did you not check out the video the red diesel ones you should be able to push in by hand i will do an how to sometime this week if i get time for other members ;) in all should take no longer than an hour but first time is lawyas the hardest well done by the way :bowdown:

Quick bit of fun for you :D and quite quick ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPIFhhT87U&feature=share&list=UUcGnDN8CswzWShpKlaa5H9g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPIFhhT87U&feature=share&list=UUcGnDN8CswzWShpKlaa5H9g)