High Level Brake Light Adrift

[stevestrat]

I'm suffering from a dangling high level brake light, come adrift at one side. I've seen numerous posts about what adhesive to use etc but . . . . err, this might well seem like a stupid question . . . . just what am I going to try to stick to what :shrug:

I haven't taken the brake light off yet, don't want to disturb it 'til I know what I'm doing. I've looked at the parts diagram on Rimmers but there's no clues from that.

[suzublu]

The plastic cover has 2 screws which go into plastic receiver grommets,& usually,the edges of the cover gets broken when removed.So,around the edge of the cover is where i would think,is the best place to glue,or double sided tape.:}:}

[Unclefista]

Assuming the bolt has come adrift from the screen, I've had the same problem, I tried allsorts with no success until I tried the adhesive that comes with a small catalyst mesh. Sold for interior mirrors.

IIRC there are a couple of screws to remove the cover, then 2 nuts that hold the housing to the 2 bolts that are fixed to the screen.

Just scrape the old adhesive off, cut the mesh pad into 2 pieces and stick the bolts back to the glass. It's easier this way as you can stick the bolts back separately. Don't forget to measure the distance between the holes in the housing so you know how far apart to position the bolts, the adhesive sets like rock (mine was a couple of mm off and had to enlarge the holes with a file) :)

[chris75]

I haven't taken the brake light off yet, don't want to disturb it 'til I know what I'm doing. I've looked at the parts diagram on Rimmers but there's no clues from that.
I had this. It's one of those cases where you can't see what's broken until you take it apart ! Once you do it will be obvious - plastic rubbish strikes again :}

[Platemaker]

Loctite 312 and 736 primer and adhesive are what I used in the trade (Autoglass and Nationals plus body shop) when refitting any objects to windows.
It's good stuff and will glue all kinds of stuff. I have refitted the part your talking about with the above.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Loctite-442-03333-Speedbonder-Structural-Adhesive/dp/B002C2IVXM

[stevestrat]

This is a pain in the . . . . right enough! Superglue lasted about a day, epoxy resin did about 3 days. The Loctite 319/736 combo looks good but nearly £30, for £30 I'd want somebody in the back seat holding the light up :D

Unclefista, is that the Loctite rear view mirror bonder you used?

[Unclefista]

I tried all the things you tried, I even tried hot glue I was so desperate, everything just gave up in the sun (was the hottest part of the year).

The thing I used that worked was specially designed and marketed for interior mirrors.
It's a small tube of adhesive, along with a mesh pad.
You stick the pad to the mirror using the glue, it reacts with the catalyst on the pad and sets like rock.

Available from your local motor factors or eBay for 2-3 quid.

Here's the exact stuff I used.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320762077973?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

[Plezier]

Will have to look at mine as the passenger side has come adrift.. I think some one previously has stuck it with adhesive tape in the past :mad:.

Another point the vendor failed to mention.

[Arctic]

I will try and pop an how to remove and fit back the light tomorrow when i have time but a few pics below until i can Arctic. ;)

[Gate Keeper]

The type of resin and mesh is half the answer. The rest is the method of application. Once you have settled on which adhesive to use from the suggestions here, apply to the securing pads first and allow them to harden and take for at least 4-6 hours before re-assembling the rest of the light, otherwise the application process will fail. It's a fiddly job as you know.

[Unclefista]

The type of resin and mesh is half the answer. The rest is the method of application. Once you have settled on which adhesive to use from the suggestions here, apply to the securing pads first and allow them to harden and take for at least 4-6 hours before re-assembling the rest of the light, otherwise the application process will fail. It's a fiddly job as you know.

Agreed, I left mine overnight before I reassembled the light.
Also I spent a lot of time and effort scraping every trace of old adhesive off the screen and pads with a razor blade.

[Rev Jules]

I'm suffering from a dangling high level brake light, come adrift at one side. I've seen numerous posts about what adhesive to use etc but . . . . err, this might well seem like a stupid question . . . . just what am I going to try to stick to what :shrug:

I haven't taken the brake light off yet, don't want to disturb it 'til I know what I'm doing. I've looked at the parts diagram on Rimmers but there's no clues from that.

Hi Mate try no.nails sticky pads they are thin and easy enough to apply.

julien

[stevestrat]

I finally got round to getting the glass adhesive, the one with the activated mesh & adhesive (Loctite 319 rear view mirror bonder). Has anybody used it at this time of year when it's cold and damp? Says on the packaging that it ain't good in cold conditions, assistant at Halfords said both the adhesive and glass should be warm, actually says room temperature on the packaging. Well, it's cold and damp outside, has been for days and I can't get the car into the lounge :D.

What's the master plan, would warming the rear window with the demister suffice or am I better waiting til it's at least dry outside . . . . probably about July :shrug:

[alan richard]

I had success with a discrete blob of black silicon sealant on each corner, it provides a bit of flex for it.
Now you bought your trick glass glue, I'd say hair dryer or fan heater the area nice n warm

-a

[stevestrat]

OK, finally got round to having a look at this. Firstly, the mounting has not come off the rear screen :shrug: rather something on the unit has broken next to screen mounting, I can get my little finger in enough to feel a broken edge. Matters are being complicated by the fact that I cannot get the cover off, removed the two screws but it refuses point blank to budge, don't want to force it. Managed to get superglue onto the broken face of what ever it is and held it in position for a few mins, holding level now, see what happens?

PS, read elsewhere that the cover can take quite a bit of persuading to come off but just checked when I nipped out to put the winter mats in the car, light is holding solid

[skinnyL]

Hi

This also happened to my car in Spain. The light holder bracket came away from the glass on the drivers side so I cleaned it up including removing all traces of previous 'Superglue' (which the person I recently bought it off had done) and including cleaning out all the holes on the bracket to enable the glue to penetrate and give a good bonding to the glass, Left the bracket stuck overnight then reattached the light assembly to it and it has held well over 9 months. I did wonder if the heat would affect it as it is also mainly sat in a car park until we go out again, which will be again from 6th January. So that is my personal experience and hope it is useful.

Merry Christmas Guys and Gals

Jim

[stevestrat]

What ever broken face I managed to get the superglue onto was obviously the right one. Light still firm after a week, least I've got glass adhesive for when it does come adrift from the window :Snow:

[David Lawrence]

OK, finally got round to having a look at this. Firstly, the mounting has not come off the rear screen :shrug: rather something on the unit has broken next to screen mounting, I can get my little finger in enough to feel a broken edge. Matters are being complicated by the fact that I cannot get the cover off, removed the two screws but it refuses point blank to budge, don't want to force it. Managed to get superglue onto the broken face of what ever it is and held it in position for a few mins, holding level now, see what happens?

PS, read elsewhere that the cover can take quite a bit of persuading to come off but just checked when I nipped out to put the winter mats in the car, light is holding solid

Returned from holiday to find mine hanging down on the drivers side. The plastic had broken around half of the mounting stud. A big washer under the fixing nut was enough to secure it back up again.

[Harmie]

I have this problem and have just ordered the adhesive from flee bay. Can anyone tell me if you have to remove the sticky pad/tape from the rear window before reattaching the metal bracket please. Many thanks Peter

[Swordy]

Hi all
Looked at my Dorchester Red 75 and noticed the rear screen brake light at an angle.

I haven't investigated it properly but can clearly see its hanging down a bit on the driver's side.
Must have been the hot sunny weather �� lately.

The link for the adhesive is no longer valid can anyone suggest an alternative.

Arctic did you ever do a how too??

Hope this is not going to be a pig to fix...suppose it depends what's been done previously :getmecoat: :shrug:

Thanks

Paul

[marinabrian]

Hi all
Looked at my Dorchester Red 75 and noticed the rear screen brake light at an angle.

I haven't investigated it properly but can clearly see its hanging down a bit on the driver's side.
Must have been the hot sunny weather �� lately.

The link for the adhesive is no longer valid can anyone suggest an alternative.

Arctic did you ever do a how too??

Hope this is not going to be a pig to fix...suppose it depends what's been done previously :getmecoat: :shrug:

Thanks

Paul

Araldite Rapid will suffice to glue the captive bolt back onto the glass ;)

Brian :D

[Rogue]

I tried all sorts and while most would keep it in place when it wasn't too warm as soon as it got hot it would inevitably fall off again. As previously mentioned i found some black silicon sealant to do the trick nicely. It's been on a couple of years now with no further issues.

[Swordy]

Araldite Rapid will suffice to glue the captive bolt back onto the glass ;)

Brian :D

Hello Brain,
Thank you, managed to get some Araldite Rapid as you suggested, from Amazon.
Held in place by a trimmed kitchen roll tube on the middle rear headrest.
Will remove it tomorrow and 🤞 it will be fixed 😊

Cheers

Paul