Scottish All Rover Rally 2013

[p5tgc]

Entry forms are now available for the 2013 Scottish All Rover Rally, which is being held over the weekend of 25 & 26 May (Spring Bank Holiday).

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There will be a road trip around the Forth on Saturday, taking in as many of the points of interest as we can, followed by an evening social at The Capital Hotel on Clermiston Road.

The Sunday static event will be at Lauriston Castle, which is situated off Cramond Road South.

Full details and a downloadable entry form are on the rally web pages at http://www.sarr.co.uk

EVENT DISCLAIMER

Please be aware this is not an official 75 & ZT Owners Club meet and as such is not covered by the Club’s public liability insurance. Also the Owners Club take no responsibility for the meet/event in any way.

[Thomas]

Looking forward to this, got my entry form by email so shall get it printed and in the post asap.

[Brigus]

Looking forward to this too - I'll get my entry form in soon.

:)

[Jim Jamieson]

I'm afraid I will be giving this a miss this year, after last year's fiasco with delays in judgeing etc and the cost of £10 for a mug as opposed to a "proper" show memento.

After all as in with most shows nowadays where entrants have to pay for entry, yet the public invariably get in FOC
Without our cars there would be no show and this is why I'm keeping my SD1 Vitesse under wraps as well.

JYJ

[p5tgc]

Afraid Jim has got his facts wrong.

Without the £10.00 entry fee there would be NO event. The harsh reality is that even with this fee the event does not cover all its costs, and only donations keep the event viable. Someone has to pay for the venue hire, the Public Liability Insurance, the trophies and and the rest.

Remember, at SARR there is NO income from the public as there is at bigger events such as Glamis or Thirlestane. These big events attract hundreds of visitors who pay at the gate, and traders who pay for their pitch. A show of a hundred Rovers and no trade stands would attract how many paying visitors? Any gate income would not even cover the additional costs incurred.

Time for a reality check, after all £10.00 won't buy 2 gallons of fuel today.

[FrazzleTC]

I'll be there, Trevor. It's a terrific event, and it'd be a shame to miss it! The venue looks lovely too!

[derekosb]

I'll start my usual thread for this soon Trevor and looking forward to it, it does indeed look a rather nice venue :}

Derek

[Alan_G]

I hope to make the Sunday again this year, are we promised the same weather as last year Trevor? :D

[Jim Jamieson]

Afraid Jim has got his facts wrong.

Without the £10.00 entry fee there would be NO event.

I don't think I've got my facts wrong as its a case of "What came first the chicken or the egg" as with no cars there's no show but I take on board what you mean regards costs in your particular event.

Also bear in mind I stated "as with most shows today" I really do think they should be charging the public and not the exibitors

Time for a reality check, after all £10.00 won't buy 2 gallons of fuel today.

As for the reality check, well I did this in 2011 with a spreadsheet.
Direct costs involved to attend 13 shows was over £1,000 which included £59 in entrance fees £626 for fuel with the remainder for tax & Insurance.
All this was purely to attend shows with no other private use so I'm afraid for the time being I'm placing what little spare cash I have on other fields of enjoyment.

I note you make no mention of the judging which to my mind was a bit muddled and delayed if I recall, as no one seemed to know when the results were being announced, but hey ho that's life I suppose.

JYJ

[Tim_Burgess]

I will be there on the Sunday. I have downloaded the entry form but I don't know what vehicle I'll be in yet.

Not wishing to teach granny to suck eggs Trevor, but has anyone been approached for sponsorship of the event?

[p5tgc]

The SARR organisers are always on the look out for sponsors and people who will donate goods and services to the cause.

In the past we have had cash help from Rover dealerships (Morrissons, Taggarts) and raffle prizes from other garages and suppliers such as Castrol and Xpart, but in the current economic climate this has become more difficult to obtain.

Our major difficulty is that as a small niche event we just don't have the volume of visitors to make it an attractive marketing proposition. We will, obviously, accept any help that anyone wishes to offer.

[Yella Fella]

The SARR organisers are always on the look out for sponsors and people who will donate goods and services to the cause.

In the past we have had cash help from Rover dealerships (Morrissons, Taggarts) and raffle prizes from other garages and suppliers such as Castrol and Xpart, but in the current economic climate this has become more difficult to obtain.

Our major difficulty is that as a small niche event we just don't have the volume of visitors to make it an attractive marketing proposition. We will, obviously, accept any help that anyone wishes to offer.


I'm with Jim Jamieson on this. I think the £10 is way off the mark in relation to other events. I acknowledge SARR is not the same as other events as such and its for specifically MGR, but if finding sponsors etc is becoming increasingly difficult, then perhaps a change of format is required.

I agree, SARR is a small niche event, but it appears to be organised to be exactly that. A couple of years ago I asked if MGFreedom (MGF and TF's) could attend and the answer was no. There is no representation of these MGR cars, yet a Maserati and other manufacturers are present at SARR. :shrug:

If other MGR groups were allowed it wouldn't be a niche event and if other ways of raising funds i.e. charging for caterers to sell their goods, other types of stands etc were considered, it would bring SARR into line with how other shows are run which have a bigger volume of visitors.

I'm all for the 'build it and they will come' approach rather than the 'doing the same thing and expecting different results' approach.

I'm not having a go, just an observation. I only attended one SARR and it was a good day but was sort of put off by the costs and lack of facilities compared to other shows.

[Tim_Burgess]

I'm with Jim Jamieson on this. I think the £10 is way off the mark in relation to other events. I acknowledge SARR is not the same as other events as such and its for specifically MGR, but if finding sponsors etc is becoming increasingly difficult, then perhaps a change of format is required.

I agree, SARR is a small niche event, but it appears to be organised to be exactly that. A couple of years ago I asked if MGFreedom (MGF and TF's) could attend and the answer was no. There is no representation of these MGR cars, yet a Maserati and other manufacturers are present at SARR. :shrug:

If other MGR groups were allowed it wouldn't be a niche event and if other ways of raising funds i.e. charging for caterers to sell their goods, other types of stands etc were considered, it would bring SARR into line with how other shows are run which have a bigger volume of visitors.

I'm all for the 'build it and they will come' approach rather than the 'doing the same thing and expecting different results' approach.

I'm not having a go, just an observation. I only attended one SARR and it was a good day but was sort of put off by the costs and lack of facilities compared to other shows.

Valid point Glenn.

The show at Moffat is organised by the Scottish Rootes Group O/C but other makes are actively encouraged to attend.

In these days of dwindling attendances due to rising costs for the owners of the vehicles you need to cast your net a little wider.

[David5000]

I will be there Sunday.
Good show, looking forward.

[tricia1470]

Oh just along the road from me

Application form printing as i type

[AldoR]

Got my confirmation letter from Trever :}

Hello Aldo,


Your entry form and cheque for the 2013 Scottish All Rover Rally have been received and your entry is now confirmed.

We look forward to seeing you at Edinburgh in May.

regards

SARR.2013 Committee

[Tim_Burgess]

Had confirmation from Trevor.

Better get my finger out and get the car fettled.

[FLYER]

Had confirmation from Trevor.

Better get my finger out and get the car fettled.
Is it the old girl your taking and I dont mean elsa.
:D

[Tim_Burgess]

Is it the old girl your taking and I dont mean elsa.
:D

That's my plan.

I need to sort the exhaust, ABS and Traction Control issues first though, so, no pressure.

[p5tgc]

Entries for the 2013 SARR have been coming in nicely, we already have over 50 cars pre-entered, of which about half a dozen are 75s or ZTs.

Pre-booking is still open, and will be until 4 May, so if you are planning to come along and have not yet submitted an entry form, now is the time to do it. Download your entry form from the SARR web page.

There are still places available for the Saturday evening dinner at the Capital Hotel, book via the rally entry form please, bookings MUST be made by 4 May as we have to confirm numbers with hotel.

The Saturday road run will start from South Queensferry, travel along the south bank of the Forth via Blackness and Bo'Ness and on to Stirling, then return along the north bank via Culross, Charlestown and Limekilns. Plenty of places to visit along the way.

Hope to see you there!

[Alan_G]

I have mine ready to fill in, just keep forgetting will get it to you some point thisweek Trevor. Wish I could make the Saturday too, that road trip sounds great.

[Lovel]

I will most likely attend (work commitments tbc though) with the P6.

For any 75 or ZT owners needing T4 I will take it along too.

[Tim_Burgess]

I will most likely attend (work commitments tbc though) with the P6.

For any 75 or ZT owners needing T4 I will take it along too.

Excellent! That'll be useful if I haven't got to the bottom of my ABS / TC issue by then.

[FrazzleTC]

I'm hoping to be there, but it very much depends on whether or not I have enough time at home to get the head off the 2000 (again) to change the O-ring at the back of the head, as it's leaking oil constantly.
I'll book once I know one way or the other.

[Thomas]

I will most likely attend (work commitments tbc though) with the P6.

For any 75 or ZT owners needing T4 I will take it along too.


oh good I have an airbag light on and it could do with a sneaky T4 session ;)

[Brigus]

oh good I have an airbag light on and it could do with a sneaky T4 session ;)

Me too!

I've received confirmation of my entry so looking forward to a good day.

Cheers,

[Tam]

Only got the form posted off today! Only got through the MOT at the end of last week. So the P6 should make it . Just even more rust than last year unfortunately

[p5tgc]

We now have over 80 vehicles pre-entered for this year's rally at Lauriston Castle. This includes 7 75 /ZT s in class 6 and 2 in the Masters Class.

I will not be closing the listings for advance entries until after this coming weekend, so there is a final few days for those of you not quite so organised to get your entry forms in and get your name in the programme and secure an attendance award!

[p5tgc]

Advance registration for the 2013 SARR has now closed with a grand total of 92 vehicles entered. Class 6 (75 & ZT) has 8 entrants, and there are 2 75s representing the marque in the masters Class.

As Rain Potisepp will not be defending his class win the two Masters Class 75s are those of Graham C and Alan G, whose cars won class in 2011 and 2010 respectively.

The club trophy has now arrived back safely from Tallin, and is ready for presentation to this year's winner. Will it be you?:;)

If you forgot to send in an advance entry, despair not, you may still enter on the day.

Is anyone willing to act as co-ordinator for the club's stand this year, to act as a marshal during Sunday's set up period?

[Alan_G]

I thought I was back in class 6, my car is in no shape to be in masters class again this year! :(

[p5tgc]

Still two weeks to get the car polished and pimped Alan!

Seriously, if you want to revert to Class 6 this can be arranged on the day.

[Alan_G]

Still two weeks to get the car polished and pimped Alan!

Seriously, if you want to revert to Class 6 this can be arranged on the day.

If this rain ever stays off when I am off, I might get her polished and the niggly bits done, its been a nightmare this year. Any dry days have been spent under the bonnet or doing brakes, a wash wax a polish is well overdue. Don't get me started on the state of the interior.......:getmecoat:

[p5tgc]

The SARR organising committee has been planning and delivering the Scottish All Rover Rally on your behalf since 1995.

Members come and go, but at the end of this year, two of our members with more than 30 years service between them have indicated they wish to step down. The committee membership will thus reduce to 5 and that is insufficient to undertake all the work involved in planning and delivering our annual rally.

The organising committee is a very informal group meeting about 6 times a year, usually in an east central Scotland location. All members have rally related responsibilities, which include negotiations with rally site owners, planning the observation road run & the Saturday evening meal, design & printing of the souvenir programme, and ordering rally attendance awards, rosettes & trophies. Of course we all pitch in on the Sunday to help make the day a success. The work is very rewarding and there is a great sense of achievement when it all comes together over the rally weekend with the number of entrants increasing year on year.

Do you want to see the SARR continue and achieve its 20th Rally event next year? Do you have any fresh ideas as to how the SARR could be run, venues for future events, or perhaps even alternative formats the SARR could take in the coming years?

To put it simply, unless at least two new volunteers come forward to offer their services very soon, then when your letter from SARR drops through your letter box next February, it may not contain an application but an intimation that the SARR is no more.

Want to help? Of course you do! Talk with a committee member at the Rally caravan on Sunday if you are willing to become a member of our group or would like more information, or contact the committee via email or our Facebook page after the event.

[FrazzleTC]

I've sent you a PM, Trevor.

[Tim_Burgess]

I know there's not as many of us going as in previous years but are we going to try and meet up and convoy at some point?

[FrazzleTC]

I'm now going, Tim, in the 75, so if there's a convoy somewhere on my route, I'll join.

[AldoR]

Am up for this ;)

[Tim_Burgess]

I'm now going, Tim, in the 75, so if there's a convoy somewhere on my route, I'll join.

Am up for this ;)

I'll have a look at a map & see where our routes converge.

[Alan_G]

Just to let everyone know, that they are struggling to cover my shift at work so I may not be able to attend. Will find out for definite tomorrow. :(

[David5000]

Is there a convoy...if so where and what time.....im coming from glasgow.

[Tim_Burgess]

Is there a convoy...if so where and what time.....im coming from glasgow.

I'm meeting up with Aldo at Clydebank and then heading straight to Lauriston. ETA 10:00 to 10:30.

[FrazzleTC]

I'll see you at Lauriston, chaps! Bit of a detour via Clydebank.

[Garaidh]

Looking forward to the show tomorrow Sunday. Finally can make it! Not booked but definitely will be there. With sun tan lotion. :-)

[Alan_G]

Great event again today, thanks to the organisers, nice to see everyone again and all the cars looked well turned out. Enjoyed the tour round Lauriston Castle too! Another enjoyable day!

[Thomas]

Turned out to be a very very good day! the event was very well organised and the location was excellent!

It was good seeing old friends again and hopefully made some new ones too, everybodys car looked great and it was a great day out!

[Garaidh]

Yes indeed Thomas, what a real nice day.

Terrific location, spacious and beautiful really.

Thanks to all the SARR team for arranging such a successful day for us.

Thanks Aldo for your tyre wall black!! We'll swap notes about the powerfolds!

Now to see if I can remember how to load pics on here.....

[Thomas]

My pictures from today, sorry not great taken from my phone!

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[suzublu]

Looks like a good day,unfortunately clashed with the NW Charity meet for me,otherwise i'd have made the effort :( Sarrs are always a good day out:bowdown: Next time chaps ;):}

[FrazzleTC]

I had a very enjoyable day out at Lauriston Castle, and felt that it was one of the best SARRs that I've been to, so far. I took my 75 2.0 V6 Club SE along, instead of the 2000, as my 2000 needs a new tie-bar. I'd like to say a big thank you to Gary (Lovel) for checking my car with T4, enabling the auto-locking, and checking all of my fault codes, where we discovered that my VIS motors need repaired, which I'll attend to in due course!
There was a very large variety of cars present, and we were very lucky that the weather remained as nice as it did. I didn't get a chance to speak to all of the 75 owners, as I spent a lot of time looking around the P6s, and taking photos. My favourite cars at the show were the Series One Rover 2000 TC on wires, the two-tone Green P5 3 litre mark one, and the Burgandy and Grey P5 3 litre mark 2.
Sorry that there are so many photos, and if I've missed your car, I do apologise!
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[Lovel]

I just cleared what may be old fault codes for the VIS motors. You need another session with T4 to establish if they are still present, so don't go changing them out quite yet. I didn't really have time to run live data, would be good to see if they operate on that too.

[FrazzleTC]

Ah right, I see. I'll need to get the car checked at another meet, at some point! Thanks for your help, Gary!

[AldoR]

Yes indeed Thomas, what a real nice day.

Terrific location, spacious and beautiful really.

Thanks to all the SARR team for arranging such a successful day for us.

Thanks Aldo for your tyre wall black!! We'll swap notes about the powerfolds!

Now to see if I can remember how to load pics on here.....
It was good to help as we are all part of the same team:) again well done for coming 2nd in our own club class your car is stunning ;) are you going to the Haws pub meet at the end on month?

[Tim_Burgess]

Great day and a lovely location. Thanks to Gary (Lovel) for giving the old girl some T4 love. Just need to get hold of a secondary throttle potentiometer and rear ABS sensor now.

My photos from the day.

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[FLYER]

the old girl is looking good Tim.:D

[David5000]

Had really great day on Sunday at sarr. My thanks to Gary for the T4 check...fan resister required..speed locking removed...thank goodness !!

[Tim_Burgess]

the old girl is looking good Tim.:D

Thanks George, she does scrub up well.

[Thomas]

Had really great day on Sunday at sarr. My thanks to Gary for the T4 check...fan resister required..speed locking removed...thank goodness !!

Was good to catch up again David, your car looked great as always

[Tim_Burgess]

Had really great day on Sunday at sarr. My thanks to Gary for the T4 check...fan resister required..speed locking removed...thank goodness !!

David, have a word with Jules. He can supply an upgraded fan resistor and it's pretty straightforward to fit. Got one on my ZT.

[Lovel]

Just need to get hold of a secondary throttle potentiometer and rear ABS sensor now.

Tim, no need to go to that expense yet. Trace the wiring and check for bad contacts, shorted or snapped wires first.

Wish I had noted down the ZCS codes as mentioned there was a mismatch on the IPK and after reconfiguring they were all matched up fine, but I should have noted the ZCS codes and checked the configuration to see if it matched the spec of your car. Maybe next time eh?

[Brigus]

A very enjoyable day. Nice to catch up with folk and great to have my car receive a clean bill of health from Gary's T4.

Here's a couple of my photos from the day:

The 75s and ZTs lined up:

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/812851a60a3a9f813.jpg

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/812851a60a3b380f7.jpg

A very nice P5 3.5 litre from 1971 and a lovely 1936 Rover 10:

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/812851a60a3ba1dc4.jpg

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/812851a60a7808fec.jpg

Cheers

[Tim_Burgess]

Tim, no need to go to that expense yet. Trace the wiring and check for bad contacts, shorted or snapped wires first.

Wish I had noted down the ZCS codes as mentioned there was a mismatch on the IPK and after reconfiguring they were all matched up fine, but I should have noted the ZCS codes and checked the configuration to see if it matched the spec of your car. Maybe next time eh?

Thanks Gary, I checked and cleaned the connectors on the ABS sensor and secondary throttle on Monday afternoon, no joy. I did try plugging in a spare front ABS sensor as a test and the ABS light went out, so moving forward on that one. I will make a close inspection of the wiring at the weekend if I have time.

[Alan_G]

Yes I must also thank Gary for taking a look at my car. :)

I swapped back in the old lead, still sounding terrible idled high all the way into work today and the fan kicked in to prevent overheating. She's getting driven home tonight then I am not touching her till she goes to see Duncan on Monday. She does sound poorly! :(

[Lovel]

Yes I must also thank Gary for taking a look at my car. :)

I swapped back in the old lead, still sounding terrible idled high all the way into work today and the fan kicked in to prevent overheating. She's getting driven home tonight then I am not touching her till she goes to see Duncan on Monday. She does sound poorly! :(

Alan, It was cylinder 2 that was giving the misfire. Have you removed the lower rubber from the bottom of the coil pack to inspect the spring connection to the spark plug, It can corrode and get stuck stopping connectivity to the plug

[Graham1961]

Just a wee mess to say what a smashing day it was at Lauriston Castle, great venue and as always really pleasent folk, the cars as always were really well turned out...a very pleasant way to spend a day.

Also i must say a big thanks to Gary (Lovel) who gave my car a T4 session and picked up a faulty fan resistor (I had no idea) and will order a new one from Jules..All in all, A great day.:drool4: