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loupus666
10th December 2006, 07:56
Morning everyone, I experienced something strange last light..........no not that! Whilst driving home through the Essex countryside I noticed that the dash illumination was flashing. Being a cold damp night I had everything switched on ie: heater blower, a/c & heated rear window.......however when I switched the heater fan off the pulsating dash illumination stopped

Any ideas?

Rich
10th December 2006, 08:13
Hi, was it clearly flashing, like on and off, or was it more sort of pulsating (like dimming a bit)?

Alex30013k
10th December 2006, 08:56
Has it started to day?

:lol:

loupus666
10th December 2006, 10:34
More pulsating than flashing......am off out soon I hope!

loupus666
10th December 2006, 12:12
started fine!!!!!!!!!!!

GreyGhost
10th December 2006, 12:14
started fine!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad to hear that, any recurrence of the pulsating dash lights?

loupus666
10th December 2006, 14:10
Will look later when it gets dark

loupus666
10th December 2006, 18:49
Wierd! all seems to be ok now.....but if anyone has heard of this problem please let me know because it`s really annoying when trying to concentrate on the bendy bits!

Simon
10th December 2006, 20:55
Usually lights going haywire can be a sign of a low battery or signs that the ECU has got wet. This will lead me to ask the obvious: Have you checked your battery and plenums recently?

rdholmes
11th December 2006, 08:01
Also the obvious - did it pulsate as you rev'd and braked? I'd guess dicky battery.

loupus666
11th December 2006, 16:23
.........plenum clear battery seems good......pulsated all the time not just when braking or accelerating!
Mark

Ken
11th December 2006, 17:30
Have you tried turning your dashboard lights up or down with the dimmer control? Does it still do it when its brighter or dimmer?

Chilljohn
11th December 2006, 19:11
Have you tried turning your dashboard lights up or down with the dimmer control? Does it still do it when its brighter or dimmer?

good point ken i had that with my 1st one the switch must have had some dust in

that or turn the bass down a bit:) ;)

loupus666
11th December 2006, 19:37
Right, heres the update ......This time I drove along with the window down & the bass (radio) turned off ..... & it`s all the lights pulsating not just the dash illumination.......dimmer control has been twiddlled, revs altered......but now with a bit of peace & quiet I can hear an intermitent clicking (sounds like electrical contacts tripping on & off in the engine bay)....the plot thickens!
Mark

Chilljohn
11th December 2006, 19:39
sounds like a dying batt or a diky alternator

when did you have your batt changed last ?

loupus666
11th December 2006, 19:41
Only recently bought the car & hav`nt checked the battery ....but there seems to be none of the usual duff battery stuff....like not starting & stuff!!!

Chilljohn
11th December 2006, 19:47
the zt/75 are very very funny about thre batts the slighest defect in them and the car plays silly buggers the 1st thing id try is a new batt or if your your usufll with your dash you can see if your alt is kicking out the right voltage by follow ing this

you want option 9

if you get it showing somehtin at 2ng ig no engine thats the batts voltage it will change as you turn lights etc on , then start the car and try it and let us know the reading , it might help
any thing high 10s or below i beleive will cause the car to get a bit grumpy


To enable the OBC diagnostics:

a) Press and hold the trip reset button.
b) Put key into ignition switch and turn to KLR (Ignition switch
position #1)
c) Your LCD display will show something like this "test 1.-"
d) Press the reset button till you get to "test 19.-". (19.0 unlocks all
the features)
e) Wait for display to show "Log I -off" and press the reset button
f) With no delay press Trip Reset several times to select one of the
following functions:

1 Car, Engine and cluster data

1.0 VIN serial number
1.1 K-number
1.2 Cluster Part #
1.3 Coding (04)/diagnosis (52)/bus index (10)
1.4 1200 Week (12)/year of manufacture (2000)
1.5 09_160 Hardware (09) and software # (16.0) of cluster
1.6 Injection Status-number of cylinders-motor number

2.0 2 Cluster System Test - Activates the gauge drivers, indicators and
LEDs to confirm function

3 Service Inspection (SI) Data
3.0 Used fuel in liters since last SI
3.1 Periodic inspection days; elapsed days (since last SI)

4 Momentary Consumption
4.0 Instant fuel consumption - 0145=14.5 liters/100km
4.1 Instant fuel consumption - 0018=1.8 l/Hour

5 Distance Gone Consumption
5.0 Average mileage; 082=8.2 liters/100km
5.1 Calc. km to refuel (momentary distance to go)

6 Fuel Level sensor inputs in liters
6.0 Fuel level averaged; 109330 - Left half sensor input=10.9 liters;
Right sensor input=33.0 liters
6.1 Total tank level averaged; 0439 - vlgs 6.0: 10.9+33.0=43.9 liters
6.2 Indicated value and diagnostics:
last digit: 1 - both sensors ok; 2 - sensor error; 3 - signal error
- no display

7 Temperature and Speed
7.0 021+ Coolant/Engine temperature (2.1C)
7.1 130 Ambient/Outside temperature - chg met 5 pts. 125/130/135
7.2 Engine speed / Current RPMs 1/min
7.3 Vehicle speed / Current Speed in km/hour

8 Values of 7.0 bis 7.3 in HEX form

9 Battery
9.0 140 Battery Voltage - 140 = UB 14.0v

10.0 Country code

11.0 Unit code

12.0 Not used

13.0 Gong test

14.0-14.4 Error memory: if 000000 no error in memory

15.0 - 18.0 not used

19 Lock Status; unlocks functions in range 3-18
19.0 L-On/L-Off Unlock: press button when "L-Off"

20.0 Correction Factor for OBC Fuel Consumption
Formula for the Correction Factor:
Indicated Consumption X 1000 / Measured Consumption = Factor (4321)
Press Reset button to begin setting the of the first (1) digit - press
reset when the right digit appears
20.1 Setting of the second (2) digit
20.2 Setting of the hundred (3) and thousand (4) digit
20.3 Store and Display the Correction Factor

[b]21.0 Software Reset; reset OBC settings

loupus666
11th December 2006, 20:10
Whoa!!!!! do all zt`s have on board diagnostics? is this all possible without some external computer?
Mark

Chilljohn
11th December 2006, 20:11
Whoa!!!!! do all zt`s have on board diagnostics? is this all possible without some external computer?
Mark

yup all done via the dash :) all 75s and zts have this go have a play and have fun number 2 is rather good

loupus666
11th December 2006, 20:36
Thanks Chilljohn, I`ll try it tommorow....p/s I havn`t got a trip computer so is this done just via the speedo trip reset?
Mark

Chilljohn
11th December 2006, 20:37
yup doesnt involve the trip computer at all and in a sense it gives you one lol

loupus666
12th December 2006, 17:55
the zt/75 are very very funny about thre batts the slighest defect in them and the car plays silly buggers the 1st thing id try is a new batt or if your your usufll with your dash you can see if your alt is kicking out the right voltage by follow ing this

you want option 9

if you get it showing somehtin at 2ng ig no engine thats the batts voltage it will change as you turn lights etc on , then start the car and try it and let us know the reading , it might help
any thing high 10s or below i beleive will cause the car to get a bit grumpy


To enable the OBC diagnostics:

a) Press and hold the trip reset button.
b) Put key into ignition switch and turn to KLR (Ignition switch
position #1)
c) Your LCD display will show something like this "test 1.-"
d) Press the reset button till you get to "test 19.-". (19.0 unlocks all
the features)
e) Wait for display to show "Log I -off" and press the reset button
f) With no delay press Trip Reset several times to select one of the
following functions:

1 Car, Engine and cluster data

1.0 VIN serial number
1.1 K-number
1.2 Cluster Part #
1.3 Coding (04)/diagnosis (52)/bus index (10)
1.4 1200 Week (12)/year of manufacture (2000)
1.5 09_160 Hardware (09) and software # (16.0) of cluster
1.6 Injection Status-number of cylinders-motor number

2.0 2 Cluster System Test - Activates the gauge drivers, indicators and
LEDs to confirm function

3 Service Inspection (SI) Data
3.0 Used fuel in liters since last SI
3.1 Periodic inspection days; elapsed days (since last SI)

4 Momentary Consumption
4.0 Instant fuel consumption - 0145=14.5 liters/100km
4.1 Instant fuel consumption - 0018=1.8 l/Hour

5 Distance Gone Consumption
5.0 Average mileage; 082=8.2 liters/100km
5.1 Calc. km to refuel (momentary distance to go)

6 Fuel Level sensor inputs in liters
6.0 Fuel level averaged; 109330 - Left half sensor input=10.9 liters;
Right sensor input=33.0 liters
6.1 Total tank level averaged; 0439 - vlgs 6.0: 10.9+33.0=43.9 liters
6.2 Indicated value and diagnostics:
last digit: 1 - both sensors ok; 2 - sensor error; 3 - signal error
- no display

7 Temperature and Speed
7.0 021+ Coolant/Engine temperature (2.1C)
7.1 130 Ambient/Outside temperature - chg met 5 pts. 125/130/135
7.2 Engine speed / Current RPMs 1/min
7.3 Vehicle speed / Current Speed in km/hour

8 Values of 7.0 bis 7.3 in HEX form

9 Battery
9.0 140 Battery Voltage - 140 = UB 14.0v

10.0 Country code

11.0 Unit code

12.0 Not used

13.0 Gong test

14.0-14.4 Error memory: if 000000 no error in memory

15.0 - 18.0 not used

19 Lock Status; unlocks functions in range 3-18
19.0 L-On/L-Off Unlock: press button when "L-Off"

20.0 Correction Factor for OBC Fuel Consumption
Formula for the Correction Factor:
Indicated Consumption X 1000 / Measured Consumption = Factor (4321)
Press Reset button to begin setting the of the first (1) digit - press
reset when the right digit appears
20.1 Setting of the second (2) digit
20.2 Setting of the hundred (3) and thousand (4) digit
20.3 Store and Display the Correction Factor

[b]21.0 Software Reset; reset OBC settings

Don`t know if I`m reading it right but on option 9 of OBD, I have (119 engine not running)
& (142 engine running) how does that sound?

Chilljohn
12th December 2006, 20:59
that 11.9v and 14.2 id still be tempted to try a new batt

loupus666
13th December 2006, 13:48
Heres the update.....batt indicator green when tapped! the clicking I heard before is the fan motor on the higher speed!

loupus666
21st December 2006, 10:31
Hello......don`t know if anyones still following this but heres another update,
I`ve just fitted a brand new battery from my local x-part dealer....£58....not bad I thought!!!!!!!!!! all the lights are still pulsating....any more ideas?

Chilljohn
21st December 2006, 16:17
id get the alternator tested next see if it is putting out a steady voltage !

Keith
21st December 2006, 18:49
I think you have a duff rad fan motor and it is only kicking in at the high speed these draw a lot of current and will cause the effect you are describing if constantly being turned on and off based on cooling demand

You have not included the engine type in you thread title like what I expect everyone to do here when asking for help ;)

loupus666
21st December 2006, 20:00
I think you have a duff rad fan motor and it is only kicking in at the high speed these draw a lot of current and will cause the effect you are describing if constantly being turned on and off based on cooling demand

You have not included the engine type in you thread title like what I expect everyone to do here when asking for help ;)

Sorry I didn`t quote the engine type in the thread !!!!! but will do next time
Thanks....it`s a zt190 2.5 kv6

Keith
21st December 2006, 22:10
Ah in that case have you checked you fan works?
For the V6 engine you need engine running and AC on Auto, or in this cold weather on Lo fan should be going constantly with one proviso read the last two paragraph here as the temp differential seems to increase as it gets colder outside hence why you may need to put yours on Lo

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=13170&postcount=3