HID's

[Poppy]

Hiya. Can anyone point me in the right direction please as to what i need for HID lights... I believe i have a mark 1 75...:shrug:

[chrissyboy]

Hiya. Can anyone point me in the right direction please as to what i need for HID lights... I believe i have a mark 1 75...:shrug:

you can pick them up quite cheaply , just a little metal bo to hide and the the bulb replaces the original one , you would need to make a small cut out in the rubber cover for te light , i have fitted some that are megga bright ,cost me £35, a guy the supplys the bulbs andwipers and stuff to the mot centre sells them .. a few members ave seen them and agree they are the brightest they have seen .just one draw back you would need to have the lights adjusted to lowerer the beam so as notto dazzle any one .mine are bang on ,there is some talk of the hids not being legal but it is a 50/50 thing ......

[Poppy]

you can pick them up quite cheaply , just a little metal bo to hide and the the bulb replaces the original one , you would need to make a small cut out in the rubber cover for te light , i have fitted some that are megga bright ,cost me £35, a guy the supplys the bulbs andwipers and stuff to the mot centre sells them .. a few members ave seen them and agree they are the brightest they have seen .just one draw back you would need to have the lights adjusted to lowerer the beam so as notto dazzle any one .mine are bang on ,there is some talk of the hids not being legal but it is a 50/50 thing ......


Hiya....That has totally confused me... eeeeeeeeek. lol. Are these just bulbs or the kit with the ballast.? Poppy

[savvy]

I haves a kit for a 75/ZT brand new 50 quid delivered.


H7 bulbs with ballasts etc

[capese21]

Please do not fit HID bulbs to Reflector headlights as I am sick and tired of being dazzled by them.:mad:

They may well light the road better for you but they dazzle other drivers.

Properly designed HID lights have a projector lens to focus the beam standard lights do not so the beam scatters.

Even the companies who sell them say they are not legal and sell them "for off road use only"

From December 2011 they will be an instant MOT failure so why bother.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/featuresvideos/204742/xenon_test.html

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/867859-read-this-stopped-by-police-vosa.html

[Jakg]

Just one thing - you will can't fail an MOT for having HID's / Xenon's in a reflector housing, as this isn't breaking construction & use - in fact many cars (early Omega, FN2 Civic, Laguna) came with these lights in reflectors from the factory.

It is likely you'll need powerwash & self-levelling to pass the MOT soon, though.

[Spanky]

Not at all.

You CAN fit HiDs to reflectors no problem, you just have to fit the right kit (hey Honda and Renault do it with no problems).

You will need a H7R kit for your 75, and it will be perfect, you don't "have" to get your lights re-aligned but is good practice to do so after fitting them.

The links above are hear-say, there are no guidelines currently to outlaw HiDs, and don't get me started on "illegal engine mapping" !!! Many forums have outed these alleged VOSA guidelines as false anyway, no MOT testers have actually heard of any of this.

[v-man]

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps


Thats quite clear on the official position.

[Poppy]

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps


Thats quite clear on the official position.


Hiya. Even more confused than ever now...:shrug:. I take it that i cannot legally fit these then....If not, what do i need and at what cost am i looking at? Poppy.

[tvpcop]

The way i interpret that is that you can fit them but you should have levelling sensors and washers = not worth the cost. Just get some really good osram or philips bulbs

[Poppy]

The way i interpret that is that you can fit them but you should have levelling sensors and washers = not worth the cost. Just get some really good osram or philips bulbs

Hiya. Well i do not think that i have levelling sensors and i certainly do not have washers....Seems more trouble than it's worth...:shrug: Poppy

[tvpcop]

I think sadly yes although im lucky to have factory fitted xenons on my ZT they are not massively better than my last car fitted with a £30 pair of Philips bulbs, think they were called extreme or something

[Poppy]

I think sadly yes although im lucky to have factory fitted xenons on my ZT they are not massively better than my last car fitted with a £30 pair of Philips bulbs, think they were called extreme or something


30 quid for 2 bulbs..eeeeeeeeek.!:) Guess that is the way that i will have to go though if i want some improvement...Do i go to ebay, halfords or what, what do you think:shrug:... Poppy

[tvpcop]

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H7-Bulbs/

There you go Poppy, any of the ones listed on that page should fit. Bear in mind that good bulbs should last a lot longer than cheap ones, and im still dubious about the quality of these aftermarket hid kits from the far east, indeed i read about a Saab Aero that mysteriously went up in flames on the owners drive, the fire investigator eventually pinpointed a faulty ballast form a Hid kit!!!

[Poppy]

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H7-Bulbs/

There you go Poppy, any of the ones listed on that page should fit. Bear in mind that good bulbs should last a lot longer than cheap ones, and im still dubious about the quality of these aftermarket hid kits from the far east, indeed i read about a Saab Aero that mysteriously went up in flames on the owners drive, the fire investigator eventually pinpointed a faulty ballast form a Hid kit!!!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeek.. What.. UP IN FLAMES.?/!!! Nooooooooo, not for me then:eek::getmecoat::wot::driving:lol. Christ... Even at £30, i shall go for the bulbs then.... Just pop in and replace the old ones i presume..Poppy

[tvpcop]

Yup identical bulb shape, just uprated to produce more useable light

[Poppy]

Yup identical bulb shape, just uprated to produce more useable light


Right.... That is what i shall go for then. I would rather spend the bit extra than get the cheapies as you say so that is what i shall do. Thank you for the info and the link, very much apprecaiated:) Poppy

[tvpcop]

You are welcome. Atleast if they do make them illegal on the MOT you will have no worries and they really are loads better than standard 'halfords' typre bulbs.....now you just have to fit the ******s! :D

[Poppy]

You are welcome. Atleast if they do make them illegal on the MOT you will have no worries and they really are loads better than standard 'halfords' typre bulbs.....now you just have to fit the ******s! :D

LMSO. Well, a bit easier for me as my hands are not so big..:D Any preference from the list of bulbs that you gave.? Poppy

[Spanky]

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps


Thats quite clear on the official position.

As clear as mud.... dated 2006, but yet not a MOT failure :getmecoat:

I think I'll be carrying on with HiDs :cool:

[geofftl1000r]

As clear as mud.... dated 2006, but yet not a MOT failure :getmecoat:

I think I'll be carrying on with HiDs :cool:

Quite right, no sense in thinking about other road user. :getmecoat:

[tvpcop]

LMSO. Well, a bit easier for me as my hands are not so big..:D Any preference from the list of bulbs that you gave.? Poppy

Any of the top three bulbs in the list will be significantly brighter, there are brighter ones but they are nearly £50 a pair, any of the ones around £30 should be good, I had the philips ones and they were great

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H7-Philips-X-treme-Power-80-bulbs-pair.html

[tvpcop]

Quite right, no sense in thinking about other road user. :getmecoat:

Yes, i love being dazzled by the local chavvy saxo's throwing light everywhere....

[Poppy]

Any of the top three bulbs in the list will be significantly brighter, there are brighter ones but they are nearly £50 a pair, any of the ones around £30 should be good, I had the philips ones and they were great

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H7-Philips-X-treme-Power-80-bulbs-pair.html

Hiya. Yeahhhhhhhhhh. Okay.. I will pick one of the top 3... At least that way.............I have someone to blame....:D:D:D:D:D (only joking..) Can't really stretch to 50 quid....:cry::no::driving:....Don't think i would get that much for my car on we buy any car...:shrug::mad:..lol. Poppy

[v-man]

Am I correct in thinking that Poppy would need a pair of H1s and a pair of H7s to replace both mainbeam and dipped?

May be worth checking http://www.powerbulbs.com/index.asp to see if the prices are better than at autobulbs site.

Have the Osram Nightbreakers myself and would recommend them to replace standard bulbs.

On eBay try http://stores.ebay.co.uk/headlightbulbs?_rdc=1 or http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/performancebulbs&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSX:SELLERID have purchased from both. Second one gave good service when I bought wrong fitting by mistake and only charged me for carriage to send out correct ones.

[tvpcop]

How does half price sound???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-499-55w-OSRAM-90-NIGHT-BREAKER-PLUS-Headlights-/290527886410?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a4cfbc4a

[Poppy]

[QUOTE=v-man;661911]Am I correct in thinking that Poppy would need a pair of H1s and a pair of H7s to replace both mainbeam and dipped?

May be worth checking http://www.powerbulbs.com/index.asp to see if the prices are better than at autobulbs site.

Have the Osram Nightbreakers myself and would recommend them to replace standard bulbs.

On eBay try http://stores.ebay.co.uk/headlightbulbs?_rdc=1 or http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/performancebulbs&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSX:SELLERID have purchased from both. Second one gave good service when I bought wrong fitting by mistake and only charged me for carriage to send out correct ones.[/QUOTE

WHAT..??? LOL. So i have to get two sets then as opposed to one...?? :shrug::shrug::shrug:...I do not have a clue about lights so i will take your word if you think that i need them...:) Poppy

[Poppy]

How does half price sound???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-499-55w-OSRAM-90-NIGHT-BREAKER-PLUS-Headlights-/290527886410?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a4cfbc4a

Hiya. if these are okay then i shall order them now... soooooo, what else do i need..:shrug::) Poppy

[v-man]

WHAT..??? LOL. So i have to get two sets then as opposed to one...?? :shrug::shrug::shrug:...I do not have a clue about lights so i will take your word if you think that i need them...:) Poppy

Was a question for other members more familiar with the 75s Poppy.

Its up to you which lights you want to upgrade, whether that be the main beam, dipped beam or both.

[tvpcop]

Well thats all you need to change the headlights, just the bulbs, i wouldnt worry about the main beam. They are exactly the same bulbs as on the previos website. Ive ordered from redline before and they were very good.

[Poppy]

Was a question for other members more familiar with the 75s Poppy.

Its up to you which lights you want to upgrade, whether that be the main beam, dipped beam or both.


Well, i suppose if i am going to do one, i may as well do two sets i guess..I shall order the ones off eBay... Do you have the other ones that i would need..... Sorry to be a pest...:o Poppy

[Poppy]

Well thats all you need to change the headlights, just the bulbs, i wouldnt worry about the main beam. They are exactly the same bulbs as on the previos website. Ive ordered from redline before and they were very good.


eeeeeeeeeeeek.... errrrrrr, so do i order 2 sets then.....:shrug::confused:...Poppy

[Spanky]

Yes, i love being dazzled by the local chavvy saxo's throwing light everywhere....

At least I now know you are both being sterotypical in your hatred of HiDs and not to what they are actually like done properly :shrug:

[tvpcop]

Poppy,

These ones for the main/hi beam

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OSRAM-H1-NIGHT-BREAKER-HEADLIGHT-BULB-NIGHTBREAKER-H1-/160507741282?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item255f01c462

[tvpcop]

At least I now know you are both being sterotypical in your hatred of HiDs and not to what they are actually like done properly :shrug:

Not really, as far as i know even fitting hid bulbs into a projector designed for standard filament type bulbs will not give a proper beam pattern. The light source produced by the arc in a hid bulb is significantly different to that of a filament type bulb.

However that said the projectors i have seen fitted with aftermarket hids dont throw light around nearly as much as a standard reflector type with a hid bulb...ala.....saxo and corsa boys. Not criticising you mate, just been dazzled a couple of time in this murky weather by hid kitted cars and its not much fun

[Poppy]

Poppy,

These ones for the main/hi beam

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OSRAM-H1-NIGHT-BREAKER-HEADLIGHT-BULB-NIGHTBREAKER-H1-/160507741282?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item255f01c462

Hiya. Right, so if i order these two sets at a cost of about 25 quid...I will be sorted then.. Oh, and the led sightlight bulbs..:D...You have been very helpful..... I shall order these right now....:bowdown::) Poppy.

[tvpcop]

No probs, glad to be of use ;)

[Poppy]

No probs, glad to be of use ;)


Noooooo, seriously, i shall order these righ now off ebay.... Should have them for mid week....:). I would not have had a clue so thanks once again.. :D Poppy.

[Spanky]

However that said the projectors i have seen fitted with aftermarket hids dont throw light around nearly as much as a standard reflector type with a hid bulb...ala.....saxo and corsa boys. Not criticising you mate, just been dazzled a couple of time in this murky weather by hid kitted cars and its not much fun

Fair cop, err..... cop ;)

There are some near me with hids in reflectors and I just dont know how they haven't been pulled yet :(

[Poppy]

Noooooo, seriously, i shall order these righ now off ebay.... Should have them for mid week....:). I would not have had a clue so thanks once again.. :D Poppy.

Hi again... Save opening another thread...:o Tried to order the main beam bulbs... ebay keeps on saying that i have hit a speed bump.??? The side light bulbs that i was going to order are out of stock...grrrrrrrrrr. Sooo, does anyone have any opinions about these sidelight ones.? Poppy. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300444839885&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3D R40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D30044483 9885%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

[geofftl1000r]

At least I now know you are both being sterotypical in your hatred of HiDs and not to what they are actually like done properly :shrug:
If they are done properly then they don't dazzle or are you saying HID's are fundamentally flawed?
Having driven cars with HID's (OEM stuff) and without HID's I know they are brilliant for light.
Also having been on the receiving end of cars (Merc's and BMW's not just Chavvy stuff) that are not OEM fitment, I wish the police took a much stronger stance regarding dazzle.

People are so protective about there aftermarket HID's :D

[Poppy]

If they are done properly then they don't dazzle or are you saying HID's are fundamentally flawed?
Having driven cars with HID's (OEM stuff) and without HID's I know they are brilliant for light.
Also having been on the receiving end of cars (Merc's and BMW's not just Chavvy stuff) that are not OEM fitment, I wish the police took a much stronger stance regarding dazzle.

People are so protective about there aftermarket HID's :D

Hiya. Well, i have just bought bulbs so i am okay...lmso.:) Poppy

[Spanky]

If they are done properly then they don't dazzle or are you saying HID's are fundamentally flawed?
Having driven cars with HID's (OEM stuff) and without HID's I know they are brilliant for light.
Also having been on the receiving end of cars (Merc's and BMW's not just Chavvy stuff) that are not OEM fitment, I wish the police took a much stronger stance regarding dazzle.

People are so protective about there aftermarket HID's :D

Yes, done properly they do not dazzle, after all there is no difference between a H7 Hid bulb and a DS2 (for example) OEM HID bulb, its all about the housing, and on most cars (I say most as I can't say for certain on all marques) the non Xenon projector housing is the same as the xenon projector housing (other than self levelling and wash, there is no difference.

Merc's, BMW's, chav mobiles are all the same with their reflector housing (as if a Merc or BM has factory xenons they will be projectors).

So please don't stereotype. Yes if non reflector HIDs are fitted to reflectors then they will dazzle and are very annoying - totally agree, but using the right bulbs in the right housing (and aligned) they don't dazzle.

But this is far off topic, and the end from me (on this thread ;) ).