Door Handle Finisher Kit. VUB104150

[GreyGhost]

Original MGR chromed plastic. (Mounted on Mikes R40)

http://homepage.mac.com/mgzt180/mmcars/Pics1/handlefinisher.jpg


Proposed supply by Crofts chromed brass. (shown in brass un-chromed)

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/crofts_photos/IMG_4616.jpg



Please see Crofts posts regarding availability.

GG

1. Grey Ghost -0 set
2. smokie999 - 1 set
3. kandyman - On hold
4. pshuttle - 1 set
5. 70five -1 set
6. jj4091 - 1 set
7. bluejon - 2 set
8. godders 75 - 1 set
9. e668ecp - 0 set
10. JamesP - 1 set
11. Raykay -1 set
12. RichK - 1 set
13. mad4it - 0 set
14. Rufras - 1 set
15. Time Searcher - 1 set
16. AlanQS - 1 set
17. Freeway - 1 set
18. norwayrover - 2 sets
19. John T - 1 set
20. chandler - 1 set
21. Christopher - 0 sets
22. duotone - 1 set
23. BarryF - 1 set
24. suoernehru - 1 set
25. Tatts 1 set
26. Revol - 1 set
27. Autofocus - 1 set
28. Phil - 1 set (formerly Morris-mg)
29. slatlec - 1 set
30. Devon-rover - 1 set
31. JCBZT160+ - 1 set
32. Rick - 1 set
33. ROGERTB - 1 set
34. tomcat22 - 1 set
35. Tickertyboo - 1 set
36. SFulcher - 1 set
37. pickle_pomkins - 1 set
38. Mintman - 3 sets
39. henk - 1 set
40. Stubie - 1 set
41. DeeCee -1 set
42. Keith - 3 sets
43. sionie1 1 set
44. Windrush - 1 set
45. Alex300013k - 3 set
46. colinjyates - 1 set
47. The Express Valeter - 2 sets
48. RobC - 1 set
49. BigBlack75 1 set
50. P.Smith - 1 set
51. IanRobertson - 1 set
52. red_rover 1- set
53. davidbooker - 1 set
54. steph_uk - 1 set
55. SteveChilds - 1 set
56. roverlove - 1 set
57. stevenkeyte - 1 set
58. Biggaz-UK - 1 set
59. DJAndyB - 1 set
60. Rob Bell - 1 set
61. Colin d - 2 sets
62. CDTi - 1 set
63. TaiChiMan - 1 set
64. Welly - 0 set
65. Actros - 1 set
66. BIGB2194 - 1 set
67. Lord Minty - 1 set
68. Rollover - 1 set
69. Commodore - 1 set
70. grumpy gumps 1 - set
71. ZTTJim - 2 sets
72. Spôôk - 1 set
73. EnEnGee - 1 set
74. K T - 1 set
75. GsLittle - 1 set
76. Gus755 - 1 set
77. JohnDotCom - 2 sets
78. fmfanuk - 1 set
79. Wicamron - 1 set
80. David Lee Newsham - 1 set
81. neilcoupland - 1 set
82. fraser656 - 2 sets
83. rollover68 - 1 set
84. laser558
85. Simon W -1 set
86. waj - 0 set
87. ColinB - 1 set
88. moggyman - 1 set
89. lildevil - 1 set
90. Pete -1 set
91. seacat -1 set
92. pondweed -0 set
93. GeoffWW - 1 set
94. gadgetgeezer - 1 set
95. davehockley 1 - set
96. tony_fry 1 - set
97. Livermpj 1 - set
98. andy 1 - set
99. M47Rman 1 - set
100. iga 1-set
101. Chaikaman 1 - set
102. The_Monk 1 - set
103. yp53 1- set
104. madone 1 - set
105. Lovel 1 - set
106. zazzoo7668 1 - set
107. aircub 1- set
108. tourerfogey 1- set
109. Aussie Rover 1- set
110. tonyjtl1 2 - sets
111. biggee - 1- set
112. Fille 1 - sets
113. Zeb 1 - set
114. Matt-brighton 1 - set
115. Martin75 1 - set
116. jaffo 1 - set
117. gryphon 1 - set
118. Als260 1 - set
119. IanF 1 - SET
120. Tim_Burgess 1 - set
121. austin_1100 1 - set
122. Martin75 0 - set (duplicate entry see 115)
123. nickdv 1 - set
124. monkeysarm 1 - Set
125. Andygz 2 - Sets
126. nairda - 1 set
127. Countach -1 set
128. mikeall - 1 set
129. byways - 1 set
130. stevemac - 1 set
131. The Blackburn Hatter - 1 set
132. Dyson69 - 1 set
133. bigruss42 - 1 set
134. rollsey1 - 1 set
135. Roger1 - 2 sets
136. trebor - 1 set
137. collit - 1 set
138. sf8752 - 1 set
139. lwindridge - 1 set
140. nisfo - 1 set
141. geoffrey - 1 set
142. Sparta - 1 set
143. cantabro75 - 1 set
144. Rosebank - 1 set
145. JohnUser75 - 1 set
146. SimonGodfrey - 1 set
147. Kevin - 1 Set
148. Rondini - 1 set
149. Andy545 - 1 set
150. supernehru - 1 set
151. arjan_m - 1 set
152. Teflon - 1 set
153. MikeHurley - 2 Sets
154. Roger - 1 set
155. Kiwirover - 1 Set
156. BT@Home - 1 set
157. Bondvillain - 1 set
158. SolarPAFC - 1 set
159. Katpee - 1 set
160. Kearton - 1 set
161. Chaosrover - 1 Set
162. GRAHAM1961 -1 set
163. rockinpaul25 - 1 set
164. dave j - 5 sets
165. paulvermeulen 1 - set
166. BBcatz 1 - Set
167. Resi 1 - Set
168. sn1958 2 - sets
169. dragrad 1 - Set
170. ignatius59 1 - set
171. Raistlin 1 - set
172. podge 1 - set
173. stocktake 1 - set
174. Azerty 2 - Sets
175. mike26950 1 - Set
176. Jontie 1 - Set
177. Ikorodu 1 - set
178. Wicksy_64 1- se
179. mattl 1 - set
180. wutang 1 - set
181. sooozie7 1 - set
182. robwijnstok 1 - set
183. harryhardwick 1 - set
184. Joan&Gerry 1 - set
185. Jules 2 - sets
186. LATHBURY 1 - set
187. tobi-as 1 - set

TOTAL 199 sets

[Rich]

Any advance on this one Mick?

[GreyGhost]

Sorry to say nope, the list gets longer is all at the moment.

[Zeb]

Is it not possible that ones made for other cars might fit? My wife's PT Cruiser looks very similar as regards size / shape for example.

[Kandyman]

Good thinking Zeb,

if you take the 4 of tehm off and send them over to me i'll try them out and let you know ;)

[Zeb]

Good thinking Zeb,

if you take the 4 of them off and send them over to me i'll try them out and let you know ;)


oooherr! Hypothetically more than my life's worth! However, she hasn't ordered any yet - I was looking at the door handle indentations and they look the same, so we shall see!

[Kandyman]

Zeb we do have the measurments about somewhere of the Rover ones and i do have a set waiting to fit so could take some detaled pictures if you think that would help.

[ColinB]

Just had a look at the PT Cruiser Club shop and they are a different shape to the 75 ones.

http://www.osmarecommerce.biz/images/pt_cruiser_store/5-piece-door-scuff-guards.jpg

[pondweed]

looking at this list now and assuming someone will make some soon, there may be some "rare" cars left out there without the kit...
In 2009 will we all be retro-removing our retrofits?:D

[Zeb]

Just had a look at the PT Cruiser Club shop and they are a different shape to the 75 ones.

http://www.osmarecommerce.biz/images/pt_cruiser_store/5-piece-door-scuff-guards.jpg

I think that is the MK1 version, the Mk2 is a much closer match.

[GreyGhost]

This type of thing requires precision engineering. Close does not make it. Only perfect does. :pillow:

[Zeb]

This type of thing requires precision engineering. Close does not make it. Only perfect does. :pillow:


Like I said, it might be the case that other makes have an accessory that will do the job! I still think there is some mileage in this idea - even if the PT is not the right 'donor'...

[GreyGhost]

Like I said, it might be the case that other makes have an accessory that will do the job! I still think there is some mileage in this idea - even if the PT is not the right 'donor'...

Please don't let me put a damper on your efforts, if there is an alternative I'm all for it. :)

[martin1973]

May not get anywhere but www.kamei.de do these kind of kits had a set on my new beetle, maybe worth approaching if ordering 150 sets they maybe interested
http://www.kamei-online.co.uk/comingsoon.html

or a little closer to home
http://www.borough.co.uk/pages/history.html finishers of plastic

or maybe :shrug: :getmecoat: :hurt2: :banghead: :oops: :cry: :cloud9: :flushed: :no: :ignore: :flog:

[Spôôk]

May not get anywhere but www.kamei.de (http://www.kamei.de) do these kind of kits had a set on my new beetle, maybe worth approaching if ordering 150 sets they maybe interested

Maybe some chinese manufacturer assuming the tech drawings are good. They have a completely different coststructure and may not require the same qty. www.alibaba.com (http://www.alibaba.com)

[Kandyman]

The list is growing, just added a new name :)

[sionie1]

DuoTone has been lucky and picked some up. come on everyone message hime and plead with him to lend us one for the measurements!!

[GreyGhost]

DuoTone has been lucky and picked some up. come on everyone message hime and plead with him to lend us one for the measurements!!

This is all in hand and has been for several months. Patience is a virtue and will be rewarded. :D

BTW Welcome to the club and the forum as this is your first post. :)

[Christopher]

DuoTone has been lucky and picked some up. come on everyone message hime and plead with him to lend us one for the measurements!!

Welcome Sionie1:D as GG says - a lot of work has gone into trying to get these sorted (especially by GG in the first instance) so be patient and hopefully we will all be rewarded ... :drool4:

[Rich]

I figured this was worth a shot:

from Rich K
to [email protected]
date 21-Feb-2007 18:29
subject VUB104150

Hi, looking for MGR Part # VUB104150 - Door Finisher

Do you have any in stock?

Thanks,

Rich K




On 26/02/07, Xpart Communications <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Thank you for your enquiry.
>
> Unfortunately the part you require is has not been stocked since 2003.
>
> Kind Regards
> XPart Communications
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>
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>
> Click on the links below and visit our websites:
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> www.xpart-allmakes.com



From: Rich K
To: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:59:38 +0000
Subject: Re: VUB104150

Hi.

Thanks for the prompt reply, very grateful. One more question if I may!

I'm a member of the Rover 75 &MG ZT Owners club at http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk

Could you possibly put me in touch with the manufacturer of the MGR Part # VUB104150 - Door Finisher ?

We have 150+ club members ready to purchase this item so if the manufacturer would be interested in a re-make deal, we have a fair sized minimum order waiting.

Regards,

Rich Kavanagh
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk


Well, it can't hurt to ask can it?

[GreyGhost]

You do realise Rich that, that is where we started on this quest 8 months ago and got nowhere.
You have pretty much repeated the request apart from at that time we had the Xpart representative to deal with directly.
Furthermore, we do not have 150 members ready to purchase these items. There are 125 names on the list for 143 sets. Many of these will have sold their cars, are no longer interested, may not want to pay the price when they come on stream or have simply changed their minds.

[Rich]

that is where we started on this quest 8 months ago

Yup, it was just a vain attempt on the off chance someone different is working in the department now :)


at that time we had the Xpart representative to deal with directly.

Wasn't Ian Spencer was it ;)

[Kandyman]

it was Ben Charity XPart Product Manager that first started talking with us on .org.

[pondweed]

You do realise Rich that, that is where we started on this quest 8 months ago and got nowhere.
You have pretty much repeated the request apart from at that time we had the Xpart representative to deal with directly.
Furthermore, we do not have 150 members ready to purchase these items. There are 125 names on the list for 143 sets. Many of these will have sold their cars, are no longer interested, may not want to pay the price when they come on stream or have simply changed their minds.


then surely isnt it now the time to revisit the list (club has the power to email them) and seek whether people are prepared to put money where there mouth is to create purchasing power in the hands of a reputable club? Say 100 viable x £20 is a couple of thousand that I cant imagine a company is going to be sniffy about. Its not a particularly complicated moulding and we know how easy they are to procure as a specimen...??

just a thought...

[GreyGhost]

then surely isnt it now the time to revisit the list (club has the power to email them) and seek whether people are prepared to put money where there mouth is to create purchasing power in the hands of a reputable club? Say 100 viable x £20 is a couple of thousand that I cant imagine a company is going to be sniffy about. Its not a particularly complicated moulding and we know how easy they are to procure as a specimen...??

just a thought...

Thanks for the thought. :)

[JohnDotCom]

More work for you with nothing to do 'ay MM? :D

[GreyGhost]

More work for you with nothing to do ay MM? :D

:)......................

[welly]

then surely isnt it now the time to revisit the list (club has the power to email them) and seek whether people are prepared to put money where there mouth is to create purchasing power in the hands of a reputable club? Say 100 viable x £20 is a couple of thousand that I cant imagine a company is going to be sniffy about. Its not a particularly complicated moulding and we know how easy they are to procure as a specimen...??

just a thought...

Having had some experience in Injection Moulding the tooling alone would be around the £5k mark. An alternative would be to have an insert made that would fit inside an existing mould tool, possibly for as little as (a guess here) £5-600, but that require the owner of the tool to allow its use.

[JohnDotCom]

Wonder where the original Mould has ended up?
Anyone bought it as rare on EBay?

[GreyGhost]

Quotes from Xpart representative:-

The story so far....

...we have contacted the people who used to make this kit for us. The tool has been packed away but we believe it still exists.

At the moment they want us to order a minimum of 5,000 sets at £32.50 each. Our overheads for getting a part into stock, storing it, administration and then shipping it out are 23% on average, meaning I would have to sell these at £42.20 to Premier who despatch all web orders. They would expect to make 20% which now takes the retail to £52.76 (plus VAT = £61.99).

Personnally that makes me think we will struggle to sell to all of you guys let alone any one else who just quite likes their 75/ZT.

The reason we have been quoted for needing to buy 5,000 is that they have to print 5,000 of the fitting instructions. Fitting by the way looks pretty obvious, so at the moment we have gone back to them and asked whether we can have alot less sets if we forget about the instructions.

We have yet to hear back from them, but you can see why we don't currently have any in stock when suppliers expect us to take on unreasonable quantities for an unknown demand.

Thanks,
Ben Charity
XPart Product Manager

At the Moment our MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity) is still at 5,000 sets, so whilst the 56 requests on here are a fantastic start, I still need to get the MOQ down to around 500 or less before I dared order them.

We are asking the questions of the supplier as to whether we can have less if we make do without the instructions, without the box and without the little cleaning cloth that you are supposed to clean the area with.

They think they have the mould that makes them, but still have not found it yet. £32.50 was the cost price to XPart for an MOQ of 5,000 and normally when you ask for less that goes up, but seeing as we are suggesting going without the instructions etc.. here's hoping that cost comes down.

Thanks,
Ben Charity
XPart Product Manager

The last quote to us was £30.50 and that is for 300 sets, 75 sets in 4 boxes.

The parts will all be loose in the 4 boxes seperated by protective material, but the sticky backing is not even included.

As a bare minimum I am still going to have to source the sticky backing and get them all put 4 in a box, in protective packaging.

XPart Cost £32.50
XPart Net to Premier minimum based on 23% overheads = £42.21
Retail from Premier at 15% margin for Premier= £49.66
Shop Retail Inc VAT = £58.35

And this is without factoring in how much it is going to cost me to get them into their own boxes, the cost of said boxes and the cost of the sticky backing. These questions are still being asked.

Just thought I'd keep you updated.

Ben Charity
XPart Product Manager

The latest news is that I am currently asking around other suppliers to see if I can get these made cheaper elsewhere.

If we use the current supplier we are looking at £70 retail by the time I have got the sticky backing on and got them all boxed up.

Thanks,
Ben Charity
XPart Product Manager

That was the last post on the Dark Side (2/6/2006) from Xpart on the subject and are notable only by their lack of communication.
If you wish to take up the cudgel with them, then go ahead and the best of luck locating the original manufacturer and the tooling. Xpart have failed and they allegedly know who the manufacturer was.

In the mean time one of our members has sourced a supplier and a prototype sample has been forthcoming. There are still some details to clear up but we are hoping that we will have some news in the near future. It may not be the news you all want to hear but that remains to be seen.

[Kandyman]

Great update Ghost :)

[JohnDotCom]

Thanks for the Latest info MM Heres Hoping. :)

[pshuttle]

Thanks for the hard work on this GG.

Much appreciated.

Pete

[Countach]

well you can put me down for a set....
If we ever get them,
This does make me worry about other parts....

PS, does anyone know if the Rowe 750 will have them....

[Kandyman]

Your name has been added :)

[Fille]

I found a set in Sweden.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/292461755ff3c461.jpg

Anyway, keep me on the list (if i buy another 75!) but can you please put me down for just ONE set, thanks!

[stef_uk]

are there anymore sets in sweeden floating about?:oh you:

oh and p.s i'm no:54 steph_uk.....iv'e turned into a girl

[Fille]

I got mine from Pikab in Stockholm. Might be worth calling them and asking, on their computer they can see if any other ex-MGR dealers have them in stock. And they may also have them in Norway. www.pikab.se
You could also check with an ex-delaer in Germany.

[dustybin]

theres only one set left in the whole of sweden, and pik have it, but the cost is mad, compared with the cost in england, but then we have 25%vat.....

[GreyGhost]

theres only one set left in the whole of sweden, and pik have it, but the cost is mad, compared with the cost in england, but then we have 25%vat.....

Don't waste your money Dusty. ;)

[Fille]

theres only one set left in the whole of sweden, and pik have it, but the cost is mad, compared with the cost in england, but then we have 25%vat.....

625 SEK (incl swedish VAT), about 45£ from PIKAB wasn't that mad IMO. What do you people expect these things to cost?

[dustybin]

I don´t need to , dealer fitted nearly everything the car should of had, ex display model, didn´t even want us to take it outside incase it got dirty,,, but i remember from when everyone wanted some when we were on .org forums......compared with what the true price of these were, yes it is mad ,for four shiny pieces of metal that took no time at all to produce....

[JohnDotCom]

625 SEK (incl swedish VAT), about 45£ from PIKAB wasn't that mad IMO. What do you people expect these things to cost?

Fille, I think that is a very reasonable price, and would have no hesitation in paying that to finish off my car. :lol:
Do they (pik) have a Web Site?

[Kandyman]

Try here JDc www.pikab.se

[JohnDotCom]

Try here JDc www.pikab.se (http://www.pikab.se)


Thanks a lot Kandyman. :)

[Kandyman]

Good luck reading it ;)

[JohnDotCom]

Good luck reading it ;)
Dooh! Think I need Fille to translate an EMail for me to send.

[CDTi]

Dooh! Think I need Fille to translate an EMail for me to send.
I sent an email and got a reply - none in stock :unlucky:

[JohnDotCom]

Well thats that Hope blown then.
Thanks for advice CDTi will leave my sets on Pending Order.
Hope not to long now with those working in the background.

[Fille]

Looks like I got the last one, then!

[JohnDotCom]

Looks like I got the last one, then!
Are you relly, really, really sure you want to keep them Fille? http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Fille]

You can have them but you would have to buy my car also!

[actros]

You can have them but you would have to buy my car also! Fille if you sell him the car can i have the badge of it before it goes :laughing2: :laughing2: :laughing2: :driving: :cool2:

[JohnDotCom]

No, I'm putting that on EBay as very Rare, To Pay for the Car! :laughing2::laughing2::laughing2:

[windrush]

Whats the latest or has this died a death

[GreyGhost]

Not dead, just no new news.

[Duotone]

Look at the two pictures below.. The 75 above on Autotrader the other on Ebay. Both are fitted with door finishers, maybe this is the only way to get them.. Buy a 75 take off the door finishers, then sell it on..http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/newfeather/atlanticblue2.jpghttp://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/newfeather/reddieselcdt.jpg

Dave T

[AndrewPorter]

I may have a potential manufacturer / supplier in Turkey - but will need to find a single finisher to send off to them for evaluation and potential costing.

Not sure if this is a goer but you can never tell.

[Kandyman]

Many thanks for the info AndrewPorter,

If you get any where with this then lets us know.

Thanks

[madone]

Are they really worth this much???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-CHROME-EXTERIOR-HANDLE-INSERTS-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ330149703353QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10414 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[pondweed]

well, at 50 quid and being that they dont wear out, then yes, they are.

[Christopher]

I've taken a look at all the other parts this chap has up for auction and ALL the parts he has up fo sale are really inflated and no bargains to be had - I think in many cases the prices verge on the cost of new parts - if not exceed?!?

£20 for a S/H battery box cover?? Almost £100 for a S/H Union Alloy and tyre?? There are many more such examples

[JohnDotCom]

The door finishers have been going fo up to £110 on EBay,
but in this case they are not off the car yet undamaged,
so may not even be available at the end of Auction.

[Nomis]

Can my name be taken off the list please as I have sold the 75 and they will not fit a laguna sports tourer unfortunately.

Cheers

Simon.

[GreyGhost]

Will do Simon, enjoy your new car. :)

[Nomis]

Will do Simon, enjoy your new car. :)

I am doing, I like it but its just so different to the 75, handles very different. I need a ron box though as its only 120bhp. But still feels quicker than the 131 cdti due to it being lighter and a manual box.

[smokie999]

The door finishers have been going fo up to £110 on EBay,
but in this case they are not off the car yet undamaged,
so may not even be available at the end of Auction.did you bid john

[JohnDotCom]

Yes I did but pulled out once over £100 way passed budget SWMBO would have killed me! http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[smokie999]

Yes I did but pulled out once over £100 way passed budget SWMBO would have killed me! http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon10.gifmissed out for 4.00 what a shame

[JohnDotCom]

How far do you go next minimum bid was £108.01?

[ColinB]

Always the correct way to bid John. Set a maximum and if it goes over just walk away (probably kicking yourself:lol: ).

[mad4it]

Sorry guys,

I have to confess.....been wanting a set for ages now,

I know its a lot of money but ..

Grey Ghost, please remove me from the list.

Good luck in getting some manufactured.

Any way, with my luck they will be available from nanjing / for £3.99 a set
within 6 months !

[JohnDotCom]

Congratulations. Well Won.
Show us the Before and after fitted Photographs.
Lets hope they become readilly available with the launch of the MG7 for the rest of us at £29.99. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[GreyGhost]

Mad4it in name mad4it by nature. :D
I've changed the number against your name to 0 to keep thing in order.

Hope you enjoy your purchase and that they are not scratched.

[Time Searcher]

I have a cousin who manufactures plastic extrusions and when we met yesterday after a Funeral at Burton on Trent, we got to discussing Door Handle Finisher Kits, as you do! I showed him the job required on my ZTT and of the type of finish needed but of the 5 75's in the car park, not one had the kit fitted - truly rare!. The outcome is that he can make the item - with a metallic finish in many single colours - but needs either the original build dimensions and profiles - not very probable, or access to a vehicle to make resin moulds of the door handle depression in order to manufacture the tools for the extrusion and trial fittings of the ones that he produces.
Problem - he lives in Derby and I live in Perthshire!!! Is there a member who would be prepared to let my cousin 'play' with his car to get the profile mocked up and for eventual trial fitting of the 'cups'? I am in a position to send him the image of what we want as the final item but either an existing 'cup' or a vehicle for a trial would suffice.
We did not mention costs but the numbers in our lists of some 150 sets would pose no problems. I see the 'suggested' tooling costs above but can't see my cousin charging anything near to that, eventual retail cost would have to be worked out but I would love this chance to be taken up. He did ask about how they might be attached and I said that should not come in to the costing as this has been discussed on the forum. Can anyone come back to me with a pm on this or if the mods/owners would prefer it this could be continued off list, but definitely worth pursuing?
Regards, Martin Jackson

[Gryphon]

I have a cousin who manufactures plastic extrusions and when we met yesterday after a Funeral at Burton on Trent, we got to discussing Door Handle Finisher Kits, as you do! I showed him the job required on my ZTT and of the type of finish needed but of the 5 75's in the car park, not one had the kit fitted - truly rare!. The outcome is that he can make the item - with a metallic finish in many single colours - but needs either the original build dimensions and profiles - not very probable, or access to a vehicle to make resin moulds of the door handle depression in order to manufacture the tools for the extrusion and trial fittings of the ones that he produces.
Problem - he lives in Derby and I live in Perthshire!!! Is there a member who would be prepared to let my cousin 'play' with his car to get the profile mocked up and for eventual trial fitting of the 'cups'? I am in a position to send him the image of what we want as the final item but either an existing 'cup' or a vehicle for a trial would suffice.
We did not mention costs but the numbers in our lists of some 150 sets would pose no problems. I see the 'suggested' tooling costs above but can't see my cousin charging anything near to that, eventual retail cost would have to be worked out but I would love this chance to be taken up. He did ask about how they might be attached and I said that should not come in to the costing as this has been discussed on the forum. Can anyone come back to me with a pm on this or if the mods/owners would prefer it this could be continued off list, but definitely worth pursuing?
Regards, Martin Jackson

Sombody get this man a door finisher there must be one kicking about somewhere that can be used :shrug:

[Simon]

I don't have a door finisher but if the recesses in the doors need to be "profiled" then I'll be happy to help out as I'm just down the road from Burton.

[CDTi]

This is fantastic news! - if we cannot get a finisher to copy and nobody wants to use their car door as a guinea pig then I wonder could a few of us band together and buy a scrap door?

Then Martin's cousin could spend as much time as he needs during the design/manufacture process.

[Time Searcher]

Well - I had not thought about actually getting a door!!! but what might a real scrapper cost, I'm sure that one could be sourced.
Cousin's Business premises are in Abbey Street, Derby, just on the city side of the inner ring road, all his gear is there of course but he naturally travels to his other contacts, (although retired, he keeps his hand in making Cylinder heads etc. for vintage Maserati racing cars etc., and so is a very adept engineer, to those who know of it - he made the 'Florentine Boar' now in the Arboretum Park, Derby).
Simon D. - I'll phone him and see if he would be prepared to trek to Lichfield, it's only 22 miles after all.
All - please 'watch this space' :lol:
Cheers, Martin

[CDTi]

Well - I had not thought about actually getting a door!!! but what might a real scrapper cost, I'm sure that one could be sourced.
Here is a sample on eBay - carriage may be a problem, but it gives a rough idea of what it might cost:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190137571009

I think the best option is really to get a finisher and do an exact copy - but that may not be possible :shrug:

[Time Searcher]

Cost of the ebay item - Complete Door - is about what I guessed it might be, regretfully the logistics make it a non-goer as far as I am concerned.
Yes, a 'Finisher' must be the way to go with test fits on a real door subsequently. Is there one out there for a loan???
Cheers, Martin

[CDTi]

This ebay door has a starting price of £50 and carriage of £15

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260146671768

However getting ,say, 35 members to contribute £2 each would be difficult - look at the raffles that are held on here :shrug:

[Keith]

Well the entire door is not exactly required is it!
Just a bit with the recess and perhaps including the door handle would do

[Time Searcher]

I am going to my local (20 miles away!) scrapy tomorrow to do just that if I can Keith, it'll be easier to send to my cousin I would think :D

I shall post my results here when I have something to report.
Martin

[Keith]

Good fun having an angle grinder isn't it :)

[CDTi]

Well the entire door is not exactly required is it!
Just a bit with the recess and perhaps including the door handle would do
Fair point :D

A battery powery angle grinder should do the trick!

[crofts]

Can only add that I tried for months to get a door finisher to copy without success. I eventually cut one off my own car.
As to A door with recess (or piece cut out with it) we allready have this in the clubs possesion AND a final, finished, chromed finisher that fits it.
However GG will confirm from his efforts, the concaves on each door vary so, one size does not fit all.
Right at this moment I am devastated, thoroughly frustrated, as it is project that has taken considerable effort by me and GG and in a well worn phrase is, SO NEAR YET SO FAR.
ANY GOOD IDEAS OUT THERE ? ? ?

[Keith]

Thats an interesting post Crofts and you have my appreciation for both your efforts

I had not considered the door recess may vary :(

[Gryphon]

Sorry but i am getting lost here surley there must be a standard mold for these door finishers as they could not make bespoke for each door. If this was the case then it would be pointless buying them from ebay or anyone else :shrug:

[Duotone]

The slight difference in the door recesses is possibly taken up by the 1.5 mm.
thick double sided foam strip that attaches the door finishers to the door.
I had door finishers fitted to Cowley built 75, and a Longbridge 75, and also a Longbridge built facelift 75,
I believe these were all the same model of finisher, so maybe one size does fit all.

Dave T

[Christopher]

I think it is perfectly believeable to assume it is a "one size fits all" - whilst acknowledging that not all recessed will be identical. I suspect the design allows for this by use of such as teh double-sided foam/tape to pick up and slack.


Hang in there Crofts whne there is a will there is a way ;)

[pondweed]

Can only add that I tried for months to get a door finisher to copy without success. I eventually cut one off my own car.
As to A door with recess (or piece cut out with it) we allready have this in the clubs possesion AND a final, finished, chromed finisher that fits it.
However GG will confirm from his efforts, the concaves on each door vary so, one size does not fit all.
Right at this moment I am devastated, thoroughly frustrated, as it is project that has taken considerable effort by me and GG and in a well worn phrase is, SO NEAR YET SO FAR.
ANY GOOD IDEAS OUT THERE ? ? ?

well I'm sorry but I've stuck my bahraini ones on now so cant offer them to copy. But they were definitely 4 identical and it would be ludicrous if there wasnt just one mould (or one design of mould)... imho

[GreyGhost]

The original plastic finishers are manufactured to a wide tolerance and will therefore fit all doors without issue.
There are however minor differences between the door pressings consequently a "precision" made metal finisher will only fit correctly in the recess it was designed for.

[Time Searcher]

I'm wondering if it is going to be worthwhile now, I have spent 100 miles today going round scrappies whose only response was 'we never see them any more' - 75's / ZT's I mean. So I am still 'door less' and 'finisher less'. However the problem escalates somewhat I think, are the members expecting Metal Door Finishers? Having never seen one / any I assumed that they were Plastic. I am not in a position to even consider the manufacture of metal ones, so if members were anticipating Metal ones, would they still want Plastic ones? If the list goes down by 50% then the financial viability goes down, can we reassess this and how much would members be prepared to pay for Plastic ones?
If we are to continue with this exercises would it be possible to 'borrow' the Club's Finisher mentioned above by Crofts if is a Plastic one?
Cheers, Martin

[CDTi]

Having never seen one / any I assumed that they were Plastic. Some of the "chrome" bits are plastic i.e. chrome mirrors.

I wouldn't have a problem with them if they were plastic so long as the fit was good. I will say again, though, that its probably best if you get a finisher to copy.

[crofts]

I'm wondering if it is going to be worthwhile now, I have spent 100 miles today going round scrappies whose only response was 'we never see them any more' - 75's / ZT's I mean. So I am still 'door less' and 'finisher less'. However the problem escalates somewhat I think, are the members expecting Metal Door Finishers? Having never seen one / any I assumed that they were Plastic. I am not in a position to even consider the manufacture of metal ones, so if members were anticipating Metal ones, would they still want Plastic ones? If the list goes down by 50% then the financial viability goes down, can we reassess this and how much would members be prepared to pay for Plastic ones?
If we are to continue with this exercises would it be possible to 'borrow' the Club's Finisher mentioned above by Crofts if is a Plastic one?
Cheers, Martin

Hi Martin. I do not have a spare finisher I am afraid. The one I cut off has been re-installed on my car (see my sig !)
The original finishers are chromed plastic with, as GG explains a tolerance built in.

[mad4it]

ok guys - heres the before & after pics - what do you think? -
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/rayshafi/DSC00029.jpg
and after ---
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/rayshafi/DSC00026.jpg

lookin good !

[baxlin]

Looks good, but I suppose it was too much to ask, but couldn't a mould have been taken before you put them on.................

[mad4it]

Looks good, but I suppose it was too much to ask, but couldn't a mould have been taken before you put them on.................

Chill out bax:lol: , there not glued on yet, only put them in position to take photo's
cant wait to fix them permanently but I am willing to loan one out as long as I am adequately insured - they cost me a packet, and they are the Rarest of the rare items, and I get it back asap.

dont know if you have ever seen one, but I was quite surprised they are not simply dishes they are actually sculpted or moulded with a lipped recess on the reverse that takes up the double sided adhesive tape, and they are shaped at each end to fit slightly under the door handles -

some pics to illustrate -
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/rayshafi/DSC00050-1.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/rayshafi/ABCD0001.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/rayshafi/DSC00052.jpg

they are a bit more complicated than I thought, would this make it more complicated to
make the mould ?

[Time Searcher]

Hello, mad4it,
These pictures are very useful, I shall pass them on to my cousin to see what he thinks of the actual item rather just having seen where they will end up.
A few questions:
What material are they made of?
When placed on to the car how slack are they?
Are they 'identical', they should be of course being from a single mould, and am I correct in that they are in no way handed, any one will fit any door?
The profile seems to to be a compound shape but from what I know of engineering, I would think that they could be copied fairly easily.
The offer of a loan to copy is most generous, I believe that this will be the way to go, but it may be a week or so before we will be in a position to progress to moulding so we'll be in touch again if we may?
Safety of the item to be copied would be assured!!!
Regards, Martin

[GreyGhost]

Excuse me butting in:)

Hello, mad4it,
These pictures are very useful, I shall pass them on to my cousin to see what he thinks of the actual item rather just having seen where they will end up.
A few questions:
What material are they made of? Chromed plastic
When placed on to the car how slack are they? The adhesive tape ensures they are stuck fast no slack or movement.
Are they 'identical', they should be of course being from a single mould, and am I correct in that they are in no way handed, any one will fit any door? All four are identical.
The profile seems to to be a compound shape but from what I know of engineering, I would think that they could be copied fairly easily. Back engineering the original and making a tool for injection moulding will not be the easiest of tasks but for an expert it will just take some time.

The offer of a loan to copy is most generous, I believe that this will be the way to go, but it may be a week or so before we will be in a position to progress to moulding so we'll be in touch again if we may?
Safety of the item to be copied would be assured!!!
Regards, Martin

[Time Searcher]

GG,
Thanks for the PM's and the above reply, with this information I shall get a package off to my cousin in the morning and contact mad4it in due course.
Here's hoping for a positive outcome.
Martin

[mad4it]

Sorry wasnt on line yesterday, but agree fully with GGs answers to the questions, pm me when your ready, so we can exchange numbers, and speak about the loan arrangement - ray...

[baxlin]

Chill out bax:lol: , there not glued on yet, only put them in position to take photo's


I am sorry I doubted you, sir!!:bowdown: (green eyed monster and all that)

[mad4it]

I am sorry I doubted you, sir!!:bowdown: (green eyed monster and all that)

your forgiven and so is the green eyed monster ! :envy:

[Roger1]

Count me in for two sets please, assuming they're still on the horizon?

Roger.

[CDTi]

Any developments on this, Martin?

[trebor]

The things you learn on this site,( please excuse me as a newbie ) didnt even know these existed but what a good idea as the number of scrtaches that these will prevent/ hide will be considerable.

Put me down for a set please

[Tom Collins]

If this ever does happen, I'll have some too. The scratches behind the handles are quite obvious on mine.

[GreyGhost]

The things you learn on this site,( please excuse me as a newbie ) didnt even know these existed but what a good idea as the number of scrtaches that these will prevent/ hide will be considerable.

Put me down for a set please

Your name has been added. :)

[GreyGhost]

If this ever does happen, I'll have some too. The scratches behind the handles are quite obvious on mine.

Your name has been added. :)

[sf8752]

put me down for one set please
steve............

[GreyGhost]

put me down for one set please
steve............

Done :)

[lwindridge]

Can I put my name down for one set too please - be nice to get rid of the scratches with something nice and classy :)

[GreyGhost]

Can I put my name down for one set too please - be nice to get rid of the scratches with something nice and classy :)

Will do . :)

[nisfo]

The more the merrier, could you add me to the list please...

[GreyGhost]

The more the merrier, could you add me to the list please...

You are now on the list. :)

[Geoffrey]

I too would like my name added to the list...
G.

[GreyGhost]

I too would like my name added to the list...
G.

Consider it done. :)

[Sparta]

put my name down too:D

[GreyGhost]

put my name down too:D

Done. :)

[cantabro75]

i have it ion mine, but could it be possible to be on the list for 1 set';) i would like to have one as spare:)

[GreyGhost]

i have it ion mine, but could it be possible to be on the list for 1 set';) i would like to have one as spare:)

I will add your name to the list now. :)

[Rosebank]

Hi All :lol: ,
Having seen the excellent finish of the chrome door handle surrounds on several of the Rover 75's at the Holker Hall meet, I would be obliged if you could add my name to the list of potential purchasers.
I would also like to take this opportunity to thank everyone, who had some part in the organisation of the meeting, for the excellent arrangements and obvious hard work involved. Both myself and Frances had a wonderful time and enjoyed meeting old friends:grouphug: .
Kind regards
Tom

[Kandyman]

Hi Tom,

it was good to see you both at the meet and thanks for the laugh Sunday night at the restaurant.

you name will be added to the wish list :)

[JohnUser75]

Please would you add my name as a prospective purchaser for the Door Handle Finisher Kit. Many thanks

[GreyGhost]

Welcome to the club and the forum John. I will add your name now. Enjoy yor stay. :)

[Simondi]

Please can you alos add my name as a prospective buyer, thanks

[Kandyman]

Please can you alos add my name as a prospective buyer, thanks

You name has been added.

Thanks

[Spôôk]

I know everybody is doing an outstanding job on this project and I am fully aware this is in your spare time and all. But would it be possible to have some kind of status?
There has been all kinds of attempts from various quarters, but they seem to die quietly - as far as we can tell from the thread.
Just a tiny spark to keep the fire burning:bowdown:

[GreyGhost]

The search for a manufacturer continues.

We will have more information on availability as soon as we can, at present it is still just list of prospective purchasers and no more. Thank you.

No change.......... :(

[kevin]

Please would you add my name as a prospective purchaser for the Door Handle Finisher Kit. thanks kevin

[Kandyman]

Kevin you have been added.

Thanks

[JohnDotCom]

Strange I thought I just did that, :D Better check now.

[AndrewPorter]

My attempts to get them manufactured through a contact in Turkey have falied after a lengthy investigation. Tooling costs apparently.

However hopefully someone somewhere will make them.

:( :( :(

[CDTi]

My attempts to get them manufactured through a contact in Turkey have falied after a lengthy investigation. Tooling costs apparently.

However hopefully someone somewhere will make them.

:( :( :(
Thanks for trying, Andrew.

[Kandyman]

Bad luck :( but thanks for trying.

[JohnDotCom]

The main problem is the Tooling for new Moulds.
these are very expensive.
Just wish the original manufacturers would re make them.
With the MG7 out there should be even more demand.

[Rondini]

Put me down for a set if you can get them
Thanks:beer2:

[GreyGhost]

Done :)

[alan4video]

I have read that these finishers are copyright. If that is true would someone who copied the original design fall foul of this copyright and be open to prosecution?
Regards
Alan

[JohnDotCom]

Technically, but if you made them of different material, or altered design enough you would be OK as a Rule.

[Gryphon]

You never know http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=94524&postcount=87

[rover]

I have read that these finishers are copyright. If that is true would someone who copied the original design fall foul of this copyright and be open to prosecution?
Regards
Alan
Copyright only refers to literature or the arts.
It could be covered under Intellectual Property Rights.
Patent - Very little chance - not a new product or inventive.
Registered Design - If so would have 25 years protection in UK
Design Right - If so would have 15 years protection in UK
Would be surprised if they are covered by any restriction as they involve ongoing costs & administration,which if established,will have almost certainly lapsed with the demise of MGR.

[GreyGhost]

The original manufacturer of this part owns the patent and or design rights and allege they will pursue any infringement of those rights by a third party.
Consequently an exact copy of this article could be construed as theft of intellectual property as well as infringing patent or design rights.
MGR never owned the part or any manufacturing process of the part.

Any part made now to the required criteria would have to be substantially different from the original.

[GreyGhost]

You never know http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=94524&postcount=87

As you say. :)

I've added your name to the list.

[Gryphon]

As you say. :)

I've added your name to the list.


My name should have been on the list for months GG

[GreyGhost]

My name should have been on the list for months GG

I'll check and remove the last entry. It's been going on so long I have lost track of all the names. I do funnily enough remember some though.
Ian Robertson, Steve Childs. to name but a few. :D

[GreyGhost]

OK Garry consider your double entry deleted. :)

[Gryphon]

OK Garry consider your double entry deleted. :)


Why thank you kind sir :laughing2::laughing2:

[Starman]

Morning all...

If I've missed this somewhere in the deluge of posts on these lovable, albeit almost extinct little critters, I appologise now....

SORRY... there done...:)

What where the original finishers made from?...
Were they all the same size?..
Are they chrome plated?...
And......
If they were to be made in very small quantities...would anyone notice...???

Not that I would do such a thing... :getmecoat:

If they are of a base metal or such, I may have an idea to make these cheaply....ish..

Dont all start sweating, its just an idea and may have been tried before :(


As Arnie would say..."I,ll be back".....;)

[GreyGhost]

What where the original finishers made from?...
Plastic
Were they all the same size?..
Yes
Are they chrome plated?...
Either plated or chrome coloured plastic, certainly very high quality.
And......
If they were to be made in very small quantities...would anyone notice...???
Only if you were to tell people they are available. :)

Not that I would do such a thing... :getmecoat:

If they are of a base metal or such, I may have an idea to make these cheaply....ish..

Dont all start sweating, its just an idea and may have been tried before :(


As Arnie would say..."I,ll be back".....;)

Thanks for your reply answers in red. :)

[EnEnGee]

If they are of a base metal or such, I may have an idea to make these cheaply....ish..



Low melting point alloy per chance - used in jewellery and engineering?

[Starman]

you got it !!! :oh you:


Friend of mine is/was a jeweller...
many a time i helped in molding a piece of fancy gold/silver in jewellers rubber,make a wax copy,alter it... make a plaster mold and bobs your proverbial...

was thinking of putting my signature on mine....if it worked..which is a long shot...and slow for the masses...:twonk:

but.... with the right contact in electro chrome plating,once you have a few the price isnt too bad....

like I say just an idea at mo,but working on it.....

[ANDY 545]

Kevin you have been added.

Thanks
Kandyman
Could you please add my name to the list of door finishers.
Thanks

[JohnDotCom]

You are added Andy.

[supernehru]

Add me to the list as well, please

Tomas

[GreyGhost]

Add me to the list as well, please

Tomas

Done :)

[arjan_m]

Can you add me to the list as well, please?
Love to have them. I assume for a LHD it won't be any different?

Thanks,
Arjan

[GreyGhost]

Can you add me to the list as well, please?
Love to have them. I assume for a LHD it won't be any different?

Thanks,
Arjan

Same for all cars, your name has been added to the list. :)

[welly]

Could you please remove me from the list GG as car now replaced:(

[GreyGhost]

Could you please remove me from the list GG as car now replaced:(

Thanks for the update welly will comply.

If any others have sold / changed their cars or for any other reason no longer want to be included please post here and your listing will be removed.

The names will remain but the quantities will be revised, it's just easier to manage the list that way.

Thanks all.

[Teflon]

Having seen the excellent work carried out by Crofts, could you please add my name to the list please?

Such dedication and effort deserves to be supported.

Thanks,

Cliff

[GreyGhost]

Will do Cliff

[MikeHurley]

Could you include me in the list , 2 sets please, one for me and another for the wife's 75

Regards
Mike

[Kandyman]

Ho Mike,

Your name has been added :)

[Kiwirover]

One set for me as well please.

[Kandyman]

One set for me as well please.

Morning,

You have been added to the list.

[BT@Home]

Add me for one set ... assuming price is reasonable.

[GreyGhost]

Will do BT, the list is just an expression of interest in a final product, let's hope the price is within the bounds of resonableness. (might be a real word) :)

[windrush]

How are these coming along I know that there has been a lot of effort put into this

[GreyGhost]

How are these coming along I know that there has been a lot of effort put into this

I am given to understand from the recent posts on Crofts behalf that some progress has been made on the chrome plated brass type, quite what I have no way of knowing.
I'm sure Crofts will keep everybody advised of his progress.

There may be other avenues being explored by other members but that at the present time is just conjecture on my part.

[windrush]

I am given to understand from the recent posts on Crofts behalf that some progress has been made on the chrome plated brass type, quite what I have no way of knowing.
I'm sure Crofts will keep everybody advised of his progress.

There may be other avenues being explored by other members but that at the present time is just conjecture on my part.



Thanks for that information GG

[Bolin]

I was having a look at http://www.nacmg.com/mg7/ and the intro appears to show door handle finishers, although they are not in other photos on the site.
Might NAC-MG bring them back into production for the MG7? This could be a potential source of new ones.

[GreyGhost]

I was having a look at http://www.nacmg.com/mg7/ and the intro appears to show door handle finishers, although they are not in other photos on the site.
Might NAC-MG bring them back into production for the MG7? This could be a potential source of new ones.

If they do there will be a ready market at least on this forum for them. No reason for them not to be available from the usual sources I would have thought.

[Bondvillain]

Morning.

I'd be interested in a set if they ever see the light... :bigsmile:

[windrush]

Morning.

I'd be interested in a set if they ever see the light... :bigsmile:



I think that we will get at some time but when is another question ?????

[JohnDotCom]

Added to List Bondvillain

[SolarPAFC]

Please also add me to the list for one set.
Cheers,
Phil

[GreyGhost]

Added. :)

[Willienelson]

Please add me to the list, would love them!

[windrush]

Any latest news yet?

[Kearton]

I'd like a set of these if they appear and the price is reasonable.

Regards,
Kearton

[GreyGhost]

Posted. :)

[chaosrover]

could you add me to the list too please
thanks,paul.

[JohnDotCom]

Done http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[kaiser]

found two boxes of these.:D and my attachments and smileys work again;)

[rover]

You are about to become the most popular guy on the Forum!

[Volzhskyboy]

I think the swear filter will be heading for a melt-down!

[JohnDotCom]

Put them up for Auction after fitting your own first.
Only fair way otherwise your PM box will be full of offers. :D

[Graham1961]

Dear Moderator Could I Put My Name Forward For The Finish Kits If Anybody Decides To Start Production Again, Many Thanks.

[GreyGhost]

Ooooo dear moderator.:D How could I possibly refuse. :)

Be on the list in a mo'. :)

Manners, welcome to the club Graham, enjoy your stay. :)

[rockinpaul25]

Hi i would also like to be put on the list for front & rears please.

[GreyGhost]

Hi i would also like to be put on the list for front & rears please.

They come in sets of four, when they are available. :)

Going on the list now. :)

[dave j]

hi
i would like 3 sets if possible

[dave j]

hi
make that 5 sets if possible as ill do all our 75's

Dave

[paulvermeulen]

Can you put my name down fore one set, please!

Paul Vermeulen

[GreyGhost]

Will do. :)

[BBCATZ]

Door Handle finisher Kit
Can you put my name down for one set, please!

Thanks.
Brian.

[JohnDotCom]

Consider it done.

[resi]

Hi Grey Ghost,may i put my name down for a set.
Regards resi.

[JohnDotCom]

Consider it done Resi.

[CDTi]

Can I be removed from the list please?

I have been successful in my quest :xmas-smiley-042:

[GreyGhost]

Congratulations, wilco. :)

[CDTi]

Thanks GG. I hope this works out for the rest of you.

[sn1958]

Can I be put down for 2 sets please if they can be sourced ;)

[GreyGhost]

Welcome to the club and the forum, I will add your request to the list. :)

[Gryphon]

Can you also take my name of the list as well please as you know i also have found a set

Thanks

Garry

[GreyGhost]

Will do. :)

[crofts]

After a long wait got a call today to say the finishers have been modified to fit the door that Les so kindly lent us.
(To explain. The finishers originally produced fitted perfectly to the piece of door cut out and sent to me originally. However for some reason unknown they were not an exact fit when tried on our actual cars though were acceptable. Lets hope we have got it right now.)
Will go to Newmarket tomorrow to have a look.
Not in time for Christmas but perhaps you can put them on your birthday wish list for 2008 !:birthday2:?

[Phil]

After a long wait got a call today to say the finishers have been modified to fit the door that Les so kindly lent us.
(To explain. The finishers originally produced fitted perfectly to the piece of door cut out and sent to me originally. However for some reason unknown they were not an exact fit when tried on our actual cars though were acceptable. Lets hope we have got it right now.)
Will go to Newmarket tomorrow to have a look.
Not in time for Christmas but perhaps you can put them on your birthday wish list for 2008 !:birthday2:?

Good on you mate. Lets hope it all works out well! We are all very grateful for all your efforts on this.

[DJAndyB]

:wot::wot::wot:

Couldn't agree more.

ATB

Andy

[Dragrad]

However for some reason unknown they were not an exact fit when tried on our actual cars though were acceptable. Lets hope we have got it right now.)
Will go to Newmarket tomorrow to have a look.
Not in time for Christmas but perhaps you can put them on your birthday wish list for 2008 !:birthday2:?

Please add me to the list on the following proviso:

1. The cost (for 4) is reasonable (i.e. about £20 for the set).
2. They would fit a 2001 tourer

And

3. How do they attach????

Certainly would look good :wink2:

[CDTi]

Well done, Crofts. This has taken quite a lot of time and energy on your behalf. A bit too late for me as I just got a set but this will make a lot of people happy :lol:



2. They would fit a 2001 tourer

And

3. How do they attach????
2. Doors didn't change from 99-05, nor between models, so should be OK.

3. The originals were fitted with double sided tape so I assume the same could be used for the new version.

[Roger]

I thought I had asked to be added to the list, but I can't find the evidence. Could I do so now, please? Any indication of cost, yet?

[Mike]

Please add me to the list on the following proviso:

1. The cost (for 4) is reasonable (i.e. about £20 for the set).


The original mass produced sets cost £45 + five years ago so I wonder how achievable your price point will be.

My personal opinion (from a totally no-involved view) - a price of around £60+ per set would be great value for money, if achievable, though realistically we may have to pay more.

Regards

[GreyGhost]

I thought I had asked to be added to the list, but I can't find the evidence. Could I do so now, please? Any indication of cost, yet?

You are on the list at number 154.

[GreyGhost]

The production and sale of these items is in no way connected to the club, our only involvement is to keep this list going for the use of potential suppliers.
Crofts is in sole charge of supply and costings, hopefully when he has them for sale all your questions will be answered. Until that time all else is speculation.

Good job Crofts and we sincerely hope you can get these out to the members soon.

[Gryphon]

After a long wait got a call today to say the finishers have been modified to fit the door that Les so kindly lent us.
(To explain. The finishers originally produced fitted perfectly to the piece of door cut out and sent to me originally. However for some reason unknown they were not an exact fit when tried on our actual cars though were acceptable. Lets hope we have got it right now.)
Will go to Newmarket tomorrow to have a look.
Not in time for Christmas but perhaps you can put them on your birthday wish list for 2008 !:birthday2:?


Well done mate thats great news lets hope all is well and fit is good. 75 & zt's all sporting door finishers brill. :D

[Dragrad]

Well done, Crofts. This has taken quite a lot of time and energy on your behalf.
2. Doors didn't change from 99-05, nor between models, so should be OK.
3. The originals were fitted with double sided tape so I assume the same could be used for the new version.

Sounds good to me, Please put my name down for a set, should they become available.

Thank you......

[Kandyman]

Sounds good to me, Please put my name down for a set, should they become available.

Thank you......

Your on the list :)

[CDTi]

While I don't need a set anymore, I am still curious as to Crofts finishers. Any update, Crofts?

[pondweed]

take me off the list please now! thanks

[GreyGhost]

take me off the list please now! thanks

Done .

[ignatius59]

please add me 2 d list

[JohnDotCom]

You have been added to List ignatius59.

[GreyGhost]

please add me 2 d list

Thank you for your request, please be aware that text speak is not allowed on this forum.

BTW welcome to the club.

[crofts]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/crofts_photos/IMG_4615.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/crofts_photos/IMG_4616.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/crofts_photos/IMG_4618.jpg

Here are 3 views of the modified finisher, in brass. Don't worry about that, the chrome finish will be superb.
As with the O/E plastic finishers there is flexibility to move the finisher slightly up for a flush finish at the top, or to centralise it. In place, the finger slides from bodywork to finisher smoothly. I add this as someone asked before if there was a sharp edge. There is not.
This finisher is affixed with a good quality double sided tape, Henkel/Unibond No More Nails. I bought it from Homebase in a pack containing 12 strips 19mm x 5cm. The same product is available in a roll of 19mm x 1.5 metres. The removable film is RED. (Homebase and my local small B&Q did not have the rolls) Warning :- it is instant grab (as with the O/E finishers) so initial positioning is critical.
As many of you will know, I had to cut 1 finisher off my car as a sample. I have reaffixed it to my car with silicone and in my opinion this is preferable. It is easy to position accurately and a good quality (clear) silicone goes 'off' very quickly.
I am 100% sure that the chromed finishers here will give an appearance that matches the plastic ones. Chrome on brass is a superior product to plastic.........and the chrome will not rub off !
The only thing wrong with the previous finisher was that it touched at the bottom of the dish, so holding it proud. In actual fact that 'model' fitted the door section that was cut out and kindly sent to me by Reclamet breakers perfectly but when GG tried them at home on his car found the above.

This is a project I started in April 2006 in response ONLY to a need by members for a product that was no longer available from Rover. I have had finishers on my car since I purchased it new in 2003.
I mention this only as recently there have been pointed remarks that I am doing this as a 'Product', that the club is divorced from my efforts, and that it is hoped " I get a return" from a product I am making "for the public".
Right from day 1 I had absolutely no intention of selling the finishers for more than bare cost. I have added NOT ONE PENNY for my time, mileage, phone etc. etc. contrary to suggestions. I am retired, have time, am a determined type and have had so much pleasure out of the club/s that it was something that I wanted to do in return. Trust you will all understand this.
Anyway back to facts.
The finishers are £29.50 ex factory. ( I have to order in batches of 50)
+VAT £ 5.16
Estimated P&P £ 2.50
TOTAL £37.16 (set of 4 chromed finishers delivered to members.)
Delivery is 2 weeks from placing order. Allow me 1 week to pack and post so you should receive them + - 21 days.
As you will see the price does not include any adhesives. I leave it to members to decide whether to affix with double sided tape (about £4.75 for strips or roll) or silicone, which is freely available.
I have to put money up front with my order.
PAYMENT :- There is PayPal, which would add 4% to the above price, or, by cheque to me by post with your address details for posting. A suggestion of a bank transfer with me supplying my details by PM to you, I think, is unworkable as I cannot ask my bank for daily statements to check deposits.
I WOULD VERY MUCH WELCOME YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO ALL THE ABOVE

[Tom Collins]

Ohhh darn it. My silly works pc wont let me see the pics. I'll have to wait 'til I get home.

[CDTi]

They look fantastic Crofts - the fitting looks spot on.

Have they been chromed in the pics? - they look a bit "brassy" in colour.

Edit - brassy colour explained by you edited post.

[Raistlin]

OK

Resolve of a wet kleenex ;)

Please add me to the list :)

[SMC Trading]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/crofts_photos/IMG_4615.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/crofts_photos/IMG_4616.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/crofts_photos/IMG_4618.jpg

Here are 3 views of the modified finisher, in brass. Don't worry about that, the chrome finish will be superb.
As with the O/E plastic finishers there is flexibility to move the finisher slightly up for a flush finish at the top, or to centralise it. In place, the finger slides from bodywork to finisher smoothly. I add this as someone asked before if there was a sharp edge. There is not.
This finisher is affixed with a good quality double sided tape, Henkel/Unibond No More Nails. I bought it from Homebase in a pack containing 12 strips 19mm x 5cm. The same product is available in a roll of 19mm x 1.5 metres. The removable film is RED. (Homebase and my local small B&Q did not have the rolls) Warning :- it is instant grab (as with the O/E finishers) so initial positioning is critical.
As many of you will know, I had to cut 1 finisher off my car as a sample. I have reaffixed it to my car with silicone and in my opinion this is preferable. It is easy to position accurately and a good quality (clear) silicone goes 'off' very quickly.
I am 100% sure that the chromed finishers here will give an appearance that matches the plastic ones. Chrome on brass is a superior product to plastic.........and the chrome will not rub off !
The only thing wrong with the previous finisher was that it touched at the bottom of the dish, so holding it proud. In actual fact that 'model' fitted the door section that was cut out and kindly sent to me by Reclamet breakers perfectly but when GG tried them at home on his car found the above.

This is a project I started in April 2006 in response ONLY to a need by members for a product that was no longer available from Rover. I have had finishers on my car since I purchased it new in 2003.
I mention this only as recently there have been pointed remarks that I am doing this as a 'Product', that the club is divorced from my efforts, and that it is hoped " I get a return" from a product I am making "for the public".
Right from day 1 I had absolutely no intention of selling the finishers for more than bare cost. I have added NOT ONE PENNY for my time, mileage, phone etc. etc. contrary to suggestions. I am retired, have time, am a determined type and have had so much pleasure out of the club/s that it was something that I wanted to do in return. Trust you will all understand this.
Anyway back to facts.
The finishers are £29.50 ex factory. ( I have to order in batches of 50)
+VAT £ 5.16
Estimated P&P £ 2.50
TOTAL £37.16 (set of 4 chromed finishers delivered to members.)
Delivery is 2 weeks from placing order. Allow me 1 week to pack and post so you should receive them + - 21 days.
As you will see the price does not include any adhesives. I leave it to members to decide whether to affix with double sided tape (about £4.75 for strips or roll) or silicone, which is freely available.
I have to put money up front with my order.
PAYMENT :- There is PayPal, which would add 4% to the above price, or, by cheque to me by post with your address details for posting. A suggestion of a bank transfer with me supplying my details by PM to you, I think, is unworkable as I cannot ask my bank for daily statements to check deposits.
I WOULD VERY MUCH WELCOME YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO ALL THE ABOVE

Well done Crofts for all your hard work, seems like a very good price given what secondhand ones sell for on eBay, I am sure you will be receiving many orders

[crofts]

Thanks Les, think we have got it right now
Bout' your door, ahem. As you can see, it's featured here but has a brass finisher firmly attached............ do I have to buy the door ! !
Haven't had a go at getting it orf yet, don't know if I'm strong enough.

[SMC Trading]

Thanks Les, think we have got it right now
Bout' your door, ahem. As you can see, it's featured here but has a brass finisher firmly attached............ do I have to buy the door ! !
Haven't had a go at getting it orf yet, don't know if I'm strong enough.


Think of the door as my contribution to your project, happy to help mate.

Good luck with the sales, as I said a great price!

[Duotone]

Well done Crofts..
Will the way to buy them be to pm you for your address and then to send you a cheque and your own address.
Or am I jumping the gun and you have a system in place..

Dave T

[ANDY 545]

They look excellant cant wait to see them in the flesh great job and thanks for all your effort.

[Mike]

Crofts,

I know its been a long haul but your great determination has got you there. A big well done from me. I know I already have an original set for R40 but I'll be getting a spare set from you, just in case ;)

Cheers

Mike

[The Bear]

Excellent job that crofts i think the paypal option would work quite well this gives you a a means of fast contact.

[stocktake]

They look superb, I have PM'd Crofts. I for one am more than happy to add the 4% and pay via paypal just for ease.

Hope i have not acted out of turn as my name is not on the list :eek:

[crofts]

Think of the door as my contribution to your project, happy to help mate.

Good luck with the sales, as I said a great price!

That's very kind of you Les, had every intention of returning it in 'original' condition but events overtook me at the factory and we just had to try the 'things'.
Feel on a high at the moment not least because John gave me a couple of hints on how to post photo's AND I SUCCEEDED TODAY.
Just wish I was one of these youngsters that finds computing so easy ! !

[Kandyman]

Good work Crofts,

Remember my name is near the top of the list ;)

[JohnDotCom]

Not been called a Youngster for many a Year Now.
Made my Day. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
Glad to be able to Help Members sort Problems out where I can.

[crofts]

Well done Crofts..
Will the way to buy them be to pm you for your address and then to send you a cheque and your own address.
Or am I jumping the gun and you have a system in place..

Dave T

Thanks for that Dave. Thought I would hold off a while and see what members think. I don't have a system in place and am rather floundering at the moment.

[Kandyman]

They look superb, I have PM'd Crofts. I for one am more than happy to add the 4% and pay via paypal just for ease.

Hope i have not acted out of turn as my name is not on the list :eek:

The list has been going for 15 months.

[BT@Home]

Crofts, they look superb. My name is down for one set and they look so good I'm ready for one set straight away :)

[crofts]

Good work Crofts,

Remember my name is near the top of the list ;)

Ahem.......... have you paid your subs ! ! ! :getmecoat:

[JohnDotCom]

Good work Crofts,

Remember my name is near the top of the list ;)

You been moving me Down List Kandyman? http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
I now seem to be at No 77 or something and one Set gone Walkies........

[podge]

Tremendous effort Crofts, I am a newbie here and find it heartening to find this sort of dedication and camaraderie these days.Please add my name to the end of the list, thankyou.

[crofts]

Tremendous effort Crofts, I am a newbie here and find it heartening to find this sort of dedication and camaraderie these days.Please add my name to the end of the list, thankyou.

GG/ Kandyman. Could you please add members names as they come up. many thanks.
Do we stick to the list for priority or first come first served ?
Just wonder if everyone will see my post. Think I will start a thread to draw attention.

[BigRuss]

Crofts they really do look the business and will be a far superor product in terms of wear.
Congratulations on a job very well done, your patience and determination do you credit.
Can't wait to order mine and get them fitted!


Russ