LOL There is a pedestrian warning sound under 12 mph on this MG ZS EV, It's very hard to hear inside the car, I've stood at the side of the car whilst my missus pulled away & could barely hear it, Mind you my hearing is pants these days.


Might get run over by a zero emission motorcycle a few years after EV's too! as new petrol category L vehicles (motorbikes,mopeds etc) will no longer be sold in the UK from 2035.

https://www.britishmotorcyclists.co....o-end-in-2035/

I wonder how the rising power prices will be affecting the electric car owners.
See tesla just had 450,000 car recalled for safety issues!!

I'm on a fixed tarrif with EDF till August 2023, so I'm ok till then.
TBH, it affects EV drivers in the same way it affects ICE drivers when petrol and diesel go up - you pay more for less.

I was having an interesting conversation with my neighbour yesterday, he used to be in new car sales and one of the other neighbours daughters has an electric car. He said '' I wonder what the hole life cost is compared to a proper car " (his words).
We know they have a higher purchase price and potentially a shorter life before they will need big expenditure ( new battery). On the positive side, they are free to tax and electricity is cheaper as long as you can recharge at home or have a deal. I have no idea what they cost to insure if you do the national average mileage or the cost of the annual service? Also what is a the depreciation like? I know I have seen Teslas advertised for what appears to be a bargain price.

the free road tax is wrong they travel the roads just like very other vehicle but then it s no longer a road fund licences. IT cannot go on for life as eventually the amount of ICE cars will be minimal and the vast majority electric, money will need to be raised somehow and so I am sure they will be having to pay tax at some point in the future.

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Thats fine IF you have all the time in the world, Some of us have to get from A-B and DONT have all the time in the world.

VED (tax) rates are always a transitory mechanism i.e. where the actual amount will change. VED differentiation between different types of cars is a good way of changing consumer behaviour. You are right that EV will not be zero rated for ever. But then in 99.9% of case VED is a very small part of the cost of owing and running a car.

Do most people really need to travel in as short a time period as they do?

I would think that most people could easily double their travel time without significant detriment. The whole time thing is an artificial concept driven by our lifestyles.

I worry about my X5 needing a new engine and / or gearbox more then our electric car needing a new battery!

Our ZS EV has just ticked over 20,000 miles so I thought I'd check the battery's state of health which turns out to be 98.4% so it's lost just 1.6% of its capacity in that time. I'd consider the car no longer of use to use when it can't make the 60 mile daily commute without charging which means it will need to lose at least 50% before we'd consider changing the battery.

By my calculations this means we could cover roughly 625,000 miles before needing to replace the battery! This equates to about 41 years so suffice to say I'm not too worried about it.

i think the things that bother me the most are-
re tesla, only a tesla dealership is able to work on a tesla car,
the trade in value on a 8 year old tesla which is when the battery warranty finishes will be very little as the battery replacement is about $22,000 aud so the car is virtually worthless as a trade in.
So does the car become scrap value?
Further being as the car is still built using vast amounts of petroleum products,
seats, dash,trim, head unit, tyres, suspension,mirrors, body panels,battery casings, wiring etc, cant see how it is being marketed as this green new machine.
After you factor in the mining and processing the lithium for the batteries, i think
it takes about 5-6 years of use for the car to be carbon neutral, just in time for the new batteries-$22,000 aud later then you have just added another few years of carbon to zero emissions - so your getting up 8-10 years before being any benefit climate wise - here we go again!!