I am still trying to get to terms with the fact that MGs are not built at Abingdon anymore! :D:getmecoat:

How good was/is the MGTF they produced after the Chinese took over?

I'm told not very good but they seem to command good prices.

I’ve never driven a British made MG TF but the LE500 Carole bought is a nice car and they’ve fixed the head gasket problem. The only thing I’d say is the paint is a bit thin but it is on many cars now Honda being really bad. A friend who does detailing showed me how thin the paint is on modern cars and it was a Honda Civic he used as an example

Not bitter then?
Test drove the MG ZS a few days ago. Very good indeed and my brother in law bought one that day too.

Good for him ;)

I know of another owner of a new "ZS" who recently made a 400 mile round trip to Longbridge to sort out a software fault which also required the fitting of an updated camshaft sensor.

As his nearest dealer, a mere 100 mile round trip, couldn't guarantee to have the part as well as the update, nor the dealer in Durham, again a little over 200 miles from his home and back.

So as I was speaking to the "ZS" owner yesterday, I asked how he was getting on with the car, and it will be getting sold, a litany of niggling faults hinting at poor build quality, and his wife has said she doesn't like the car.

This is the problem with badge engineering, you can stick a badge of a relatively untainted brand on any old tat, but it will still be tat, and I'd like to see what the dealer support will like be once Longbridge has closed up shop.

Brian :D

You make a good point. Badge is no guaranttee of quality and you can quickly tarnish a brand by poor manufacturing and/or after sales support.

Nearest dealer to Mike is 15 miles and Longbridge is 40 miles away whilst its still open...........

That’s not good Ian, they have premises in Marlybone with a few floors spare, I read a few months ago that they were thinking of renting it out so I guess they could use it for R&D. Ive been to Longbridge 4 times over the last year and been privileged to of seen the R&D centre which had an enormous buzz about it. The main areas seem to be R&D, parts distribution, training centre for techs and a workshop for the cars they sell. The sales centre itself is just a couple of cars in the foyer of the conference centre since the round house was handed back. Myself and my daughter travelled to Longbridge to buy our ZS which was a 5 hour drive and the salesman went above and beyond in making it an experience that my daughter will never forget, I always get excited about visiting Longbridge and as we drove away my daughter remarked that she now understood my love of the place and link to our other three cars, there won’t be another new car hand over that will beat that day. I’m certain that MG will continue to thrive as they are selling many many cars but for me a massive part of ownership was the link back to Longbridge, once that’s gone I’m not sure how I will feel about the brand

[QUOTE=marinabrian;2733160]Good for him ;)



I know of another owner of a new "ZS" who recently made a 400 mile round trip to Longbridge to sort out a software fault which also required the fitting of an updated camshaft sensor.






Morning bri have you any more information on what the symptoms were please

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Brian - why keep pointing the finger at BMW and the Pheonix four yet not mention the two parties that contributed the most to MGR's demise - the British public for not buying the cars and the successive UK governments for having no interest in supporting British engineering/manufacturing industry. IMO this is where the responsibility lies.

BMW did with Rover what any business would have done with an unwanted/undesirable complex- retain the valuable parts and get rid of the rest.

The Pheonix Four took on what was probably the most difficulty job in British industrial history and provided quality engineering jobs for a large number of people for a number of years. The amounts they "pocketed" are not large by car industry not general top-level management roles in the UK. They sacrificed the prospect of having any realistic chance of long-term careers in management in the process.