ERISING 962D -1st fit
 

Just a few links to give a Clue on this Double Din Unit.

An Erising ES962D


A Boot up Video..

View My Video

And 2 pics of it plopped in Loose

http://i26.tinypic.com/10qm5qt.jpg


and The rear showing the cables.

http://i27.tinypic.com/1zvpfy8.jpg


Using standard ISO connectors was in and running in about 10 mins ..

rest of the morning spent fiddling / testing/ playing about .

So haven't got much further so far :D

Bluetooth connects ok .
Radio is good
Plays all DVDs/AVI/DIVXs put in it so far .
IGO works Ok , ( can't stand the womans voice ;) )
Freeview Scanned and found Most stations but then mostly no picture
as signal is very weak Here , and the supplied Aerial is the size of a
Mouses Winkle !! :D.

thats it so far ..

Chris

Which facia did you use and did it need modifying ??.

Mine a Homemade one , made from a Old Hi line radio fascia, Made it last year before the cheaper D -Din front came about.

Chris

Steering now working ok

It also has the usual hidden setup menu where you can select the GPS software to run.. so will try Tomtom .

So Mio pocket probably Ok too from here . ..not tried it yet ..

I've only failed on the Freeview .. but the signal round here is weak ..

1 mile up the road and it all OK on a Piece of bent copper wire ! :mad:


Chris

Would *love* to know how this works with TomTom... Seans unit's look great, but north of £300 is too much no matter how I play it.

If you do get TomTom working, can you record a video for me please? £215 is almost bearable...

EDIT - Do the steering wheel controls work with this?

Just looking at tom tom now !!

Yes got steering controls working .. ok . just 2 wires.. and setup in the menu.

I've got it as per normal

Vol + -
Mode
Next / previous
or everthing is touch screen

Chris

Guys, I have been around the "Biz" awhile. As Objectively as I possibly can. You CAN DO BETTER ON THIS TYPE FOR YOURSELVES . If you guys want to venture into the Universal type, let me get you a Nice one ? More Up to date features, Close to your Price range.

TomTom 6 Will work on these but very Out of Date. Tom Tom 7 will load but is Full of glitches.

Sorry if I have Overstepped or stepped on toes, Just Offering my knowledge. Just tell me to go away and I will.

A Few Examples..... And within your Price range.

Detachable Panels Maybe for Security reasons?

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...DETACHABLE.jpg

3D Graphics and Lots of neat Features.

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...herOptions.jpg

Go away, Sean :D

Seriously, though, you are quite correct about Tomtom on the Chinese double dins or any other system running WinCE. Its a well documented fact that anything beyond TT6 will not work for a variety of reasons, primarily audio clipping. TT6 is currently getting the pension and is well beyond its sell by date.

In any event, iGo is far superior IMHO. Tony (Fry) has a great version of iGo over on the MG7 double din thread.

I would also recommend purchase from Sean (Radioguy) due to his excellent warranty. Its impossible to beat unless you deal in a bricks and mortar shop (and pay the premium for doing so!).

A bit late for me !!! :D:D:D:D

As its an easier fit I would have gone for the OEM lookers.

Although I'm probably the only person here who isn't that struck on their looks ?

But I also wanted built in DVBT,not an addon box .

also never quite grasped the desperate need some peeps have for TMC ?? :shrug:

But in the end the Price was the real killer for me , just too expensive


If they were 250 or under, would have dived in earlier!!

But hey , each to their own !!


Chris


PS this one ere' seems to do everything the ones above do ?? except drive a CDC , or lose their front ,

Mind you I've not delved that deep so far .

PPS.. Not after a mines bigger/better than yours battle here !! ;) :getmecoat:

Well now you mention it, mine is 7" and yours is only 6.2" :D

Hi Ceedy,

Not at all after a battle ! We all know about Canucks !
You did well ! A Pioneer !

Just want to see you guys get the value for your money. You did okay, Just want to offer my services (If Possible). I have access to the newest and Bluest and Cheapest and deepest and experience with many models. (About 4 Years Now)

The Market is ever evolving. I was around when BLUETOOTH was the big thing. And those units would sell for 700$ with Bluetooth !

PIP is the newest Gig,
And The Virtual CD Changer too
The detachable Panel has certain advantages, especially in Big Cities.
The On Screen Buttons is cool and In My Opinion Practical too.

And we Do have a Good Guarantee for Y'all !


Sean

So Its true what the say about the Irish ?

Really? I currently use a Navigo SatNav running TomTom 7, I assumed any of the Windows CE SatNavs would run TomTom 7.

TomTom is a pre-requisite - i've tried iGo, Garmin, Turbo Dog etc and TomTom is the one I prefer. Using TomTom 7 atm, and would really want TomTom 8 but 7 will do.

Price range... well as low as possible, really, it depends.

I love my SatNav, but I wish I had a larger screen and that it looked more "sleek" and OEM instead of being on a rubbish cradle all the time.

I would also like to have a USB and Aux input, ideally on the back to hide all the cables...

Bluetooth isn't a massive issue - I already have a Bluetooth kit in myt car (although i'd replace it if I got a contact picture come up as well...)

Outputs - all I need is the ISO pins and an RCA for my sub.

CD or MP3 aren't that important if I have USB or SD, although a CD Changer would be nice (but certainly not a deal breaker).

I don't really need TV, or DVD, I would never really use it.

iPod functionality isn't that important (don't own an iPhone).

RDS is something i'd like very much.

I'm not sure what TMC does - if it works with TomTom and it's free, it'd be great, though, but I have a TrafficMaster ECU in the post...Happy to have your input :)Luckily security isn't such an issue round here to be honest.

I would love to, but alas £300+ as the exchange rate slowly worsens is a lot to spend.

I would post pics but this is a family Forum ;)



I have been trying to get TT 7.910 working on the Chinese DD but to no avail. The problem is audio clipping.

After several hours of research I have given up. There are numerous webpages given over to the same problem. It just will not work on Sean's double din running WinCE5. I also tried it on a tablet PC running WinCE6 and it wouldn't run due to an "out of memory" error. This last problem is fixable, apparently, but I prefer iGO and just gave up on TT.

Ah .. but as you can see I can push mine in further ? :D:D

tut tut smut !! :getmecoat:

Wait so you mean TomTom 7 doesn't work on the uber expensive units from Sean either?

I think mine is a better fit though :).

Better stop this - the mods will be after us :D.

Tomtom 7 Does not work correctly on any Chinese unit at the moment.

A couple of years ago we had the Options of Tomtom 6 , and it worked but the maps were quite out of date.

Correct - didn't work on my first Chinese double din either.

IGO or IGO8? They are very different you know?

We can get these Universal types in around the 250's

Biggest that you will get is the 7" Screens.

Done

Bluetooth isnot an option anymore, it is a standard feature on all 2 DIN units now

Would have preAmp Output

CD Changers are So passe nowadays with IPOD, SD and USB

Again Standard Features Not really deletable

Again Standard Features Not really deletable (So you and I are the only ones without Me thinks)

Done

Usually works from the RDS Have a read Here http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oG76193E...essage_Channel


- if it works with TomTom and it's free, it'd be great, though, but I have a TrafficMaster ECU in the post...

Thanks, Hope the other members feel the same.


I would love to, but alas £300+ as the exchange rate slowly worsens is a lot to spend.

Exchange rate is gradually Improving ! I want it up too ! (CDTi will react to that I am sure)

I haven't tried IGO8 I must admit... but does it to favourites?

7" is more than big enough.

I use TomTom 7(.910.9185) on my Navigo right now, going to 6 would be a step backwards... thank you for saving me a lot of money :/

Her is a rather dated Video of IGO8 But still pretty Impressive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gydl_Zsp9Do

London Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gydl_Zsp9Do

You can Add Speed Cams and POI's (Favorites) from www.poiplaza.com

This Erising came with Igo8.0.0.2 or thereabouts on 2 Gb SD card.

Also chaps.. you can all bow down :bowdown: as it only cost me 160 squids !! :D

the only one !! so don't ask ! ;)

hence the reason for buying this model :getmecoat:

off to bed now as gotta fit the thermostat in tomorrow ..
its been in the boot for 3 months ?

chris.

Don't we all ;)



Like most things in life, nearly everyone has an opinion on sat nav programs.

I have tried most of the main ones i.e. Garmin, Tomtom amd iGo8. Garmin is the absolute worst, terrible, terrible. Tomtom is OK but iGo is by far the best IMHO.

Tony (Fry) also put me onto iGo Primo. Check it out if you would like another flavour of iGo. Oh yes, don't forget iGo Amigo for a really simple sat nav app.

this Erising ES962D unit dose seem quite a good deal. sub £250 with all the normal stuff and built in digital TV which is of real interest as my area is for the change soon

To Radioguy if you think you have somthing to rival it then show us we dont know if you dont tell us :P

Let Me get the Best deal together for you !

RG

Looks like I have another headache coming on, My, must have, is TMC on the unit, it SOOOOO much better than the IPK info, and it will divert around the traffic jam's

A few Options I Put together fast
 

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...Universal3.jpg
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...ciaroverMG.jpg

Sean thats a rather nice little unit. Do you happen to have any more information about it, eg, brand or anything so I can do some online review searches? :}

Hi there

I am afraid that there is no real "Brand" Hard to research because there are so many different Universal Models .

What it DOES NOT have as far as I can see is

1/. LOGO Selections (But you can change the GPS Logos)
2/. Virtual CD CHanger
3/. Picture in Picture

Sean

I was writing a Letter to a potential Client and Sometimes I amaze myself.

Anyway here are a few thoughts I had about these Universal units


1/. Moving Chinese Screens Break
2/. You get what you pay for ! If that Universal unit "breaks", it will be expensive to fix.
3/. Forum support is limited. (But you always have me)
4/. Depending which future car you may purchase, this may not fit. Facias are very diverse. And resale value is Low.
5/. If you want My Opinion, Buy the MG Rover, it will either Increase the value (Maybe give the Future Car Buyer the option to purchase with the car or if he opts not too then you can remove and resell it on the forum. Tony Fry Just got about £325 for his. Remember these are about a 1000£ option or more at the car dealerships
6/. If deposits or payments are an issue we can make a special deal to pay in a few payments. I Only ask that I supply your future head units hehehehe
7/. If you still feel the extra 100£ is not worth it, Just tell me what you need and you will have it !


Sean

I agree with this. My first Chinese double din had a motorised screen and I thought it was very flimsy. If you are going for a universal unit then this one is better IMHO: http://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/sh...5&postcount=31


We are often amazed at you also, Sean ;) :D

Oh oh ........... I think thats not a good thing !

As I only started this thread just to show what I had done ..:shrug:

Looks like it has Been now Totally Hijacked by radioguy!! ?!!!

now its a Buy this or this !!..:( :getmecoat:..

wHOops, sORRY, I can delete my posts if you wish.

I don't want to hijack anything.

I can Open another thread?

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nah tis Ok .... had you worried tho'' :D:D:D


Don't let me catch you doing it again ;);):D


Chris

Ceedy, How are you finding the unit performance wise?
I was considering one of these due to the price/ features and I preferred the look of the unit compared to some of the other cheap alternatives.

Well still a newbie with it ..so lots of things I havn't tried .

Plugs straight in and works ,

Despite my moan about IGO I've just posted the Satnav works well .
But the PIP in the satnav would be nice to swtich off as a option at start up .

Radio is good as is DVBT standard weeny aerial is useless outside my house tho ;; :D ) Ok 1/2 mile up the road .

Not found how to change the logo to An MG/Rover one yet)

DVD player seems to play most things.

Not used the IPod section yet , havn't got an Ipod)

Bluetooth works ok with my Phone

Basically it just works well so far. and looks like its got some hacking capabilities like most Chinese double dins . but thats for later.

I've had the larger tilt out screen type before and just don't like them, much prefer proper buttons for the basic features like this type has even at the expense of a smaller screen .

Chris

Chris if you PM me with your screen size and email address, I can email you the 75 or ZT splash screen it just a matter of coping it to the brand.zip file within IGO

Been fiddlin, got the tomtom 6 Files of my Old Ipaq and this is the first attempt ..

all reading the GPS and displaying ok .

http://i27.tinypic.com/317jyxe.jpg


http://i27.tinypic.com/206kn41.jpg

The only problem with this TT6 is the voices are quiet even at full
volume :shrug:..

But also getting used to IGO as well. :D.

C.

ceedy

mate you neve answered my question regarding radio stations via freeview, do you pick up any?

Stubs

TomTom version 6 will work but the problem is the maps ARE so out of date now

yup knew that .. but round yer in injun contry , the roads don't get altered at all . :D

it was just a trial just to see if it worked.

off to try with copy of igo8 and some updates I've found to see if I can ruin that :D


C.

Do you have a copy of TomTom 7??

Have you tried it with that patch I posted on your first trip out with Igo thread??

I reckon it will work.

I won the unit I was after on eBay tonight - it's the 963d with TMC - got it for same price as non-tmc units go for.

Will probably try my version of TomTom once I have it installed - not sure how to get TMC working on it though - but we'll see.

I don't think you will find that the audio fix will work with the Chinese unit, I did try it a while ago

That's a shame.

I'll still give it a go - but won't be so disappointed when it doesn't work.

I think I will probably end up using Igo8 - just as case of getting used to it I guess.

Can you get different voices for Igo? Have heard the female voice is very annoying? Last time I tried Igo the sound wouldn't work - a Toshiba TG01 that went back to the phone company - useless piece of plastic that was.

Chris

Hi Chris,

No there are no "funny" voices for IGO, you will be stuck with the standard male or female voice.

You will not be able to get TomTom working with TMC, but IGO works fine, you just have to go into the settings and set the TMC receiver.

Not really bothered about funny - have been through that phase :D

Just wondered if there were a few to try - so as I can get one I don't mind telling me what to do.

Guess I'll see what comes in the box.

With regards to TMC, I'll be in touch when I have it in and powered up so as I can see how to do that or what to ask?

Cheers

Chris

Just for info..

A few pic's of this units other areas's !

The IGO version supplied ..

http://i29.tinypic.com/2z735ac.jpg


Device manager info screen ( thanks Tony fry :bowdown:)

http://i32.tinypic.com/4kcg8y.jpg


GPS loading path screen ..

http://i29.tinypic.com/65agqv.jpg


Firmware info screen..

http://i29.tinypic.com/1hdmpe.jpg


Chris

Hi,
I've just taken delivery of an Erising ES908D 7" 2 Din unit. There are no instructions on actually mounting it on the car. Any info you can give would be greatly appreciated.

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Its tricky to explain, but you do need to make some sort of tray fixed in to slide it in on or bracketry .. you will only get a couple of angle brackets
with screws in the kit. Not lot of use without some other Mountings.

Heres my old thing i knocked up out of a plastic tray.. it just sits at the front , the rear is notched for support to sit on the metal ledge at the back and its just held in by the single screw that originally held the IR adaptor box.
The sound proofing is cut back a fair bit , this was to fit in the original Xtrons unit, but the Erising is a bit shorter .


http://i27.tinypic.com/rsd1lg.jpg

never got round to painting it .:o

Not figured out a way to hold it back in yet ? but its quite heavy, so is n't going to fall out easily .

Might put some screws in the side of the unit , and shallow notches in the plastic tray, so it can slide in an drop into the slots .( and hopefullye get it out again ? :D

................
Fixing it in properly is the most tricky bit , but I 've not seen anything in the forums about doing it or what methods people have used .

We all seem to go on and on an on :shrug: about the Software, wiring etc !! nowt about the basics ? :D

Unless you've bought a Rover look unit, but then not sure what supports the rear end ?? :getmecoat:

Chris

Thanks for that. At least it's something to go on! (No pun intended)

I hadn't really considered this......

But after looking on eBay, have you ever used one of these? Universal Double Din security cage

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-Doub...item27b3417eb1

I have before, but only a standard single din.

Chris

Well this is my nearly??? ;) final install ,, Painted a` few bits with a Rhodiumish paint.. inc the Erising frame.


http://i28.tinypic.com/1gm4yc.jpg


at least it covers up my tatty mounting frame ;).

Chris( one of many) :D

I am going to order one this weekend two questions which is best unit and which facia was used ??.

A very nice install Chris, where did you get the "Rhodiumish" paint from? It looks a good match in the pictures how does it look in the flesh?
Have been interested in colour coding some of the centre of my dash for a while now.

I took the long switch panel to a paint supplier and they matched it pretty close.
I think it looks better in the flesh but the metal flake particle in my paint are a tiny bit larger which shows up in certain light.
And none of the new parts have had the laquer smooth'd and polished so that shows a bit as the original dash is glass smooth. got that to do.

Chris

Not used one of them, did think about it bit I'm a bit of maker type plus semi retired so got the time ..
Bbut cannot see any reason why one of these could not be mounted in , but i thought you don't actually need a complete rectangular tube?..
the top section doesn't do anything and at worst restricts access and room for all the dangly bits :shrug:.

Chris ( the other one ;))

eek a big question.. ?

Which unit are you considiering? one of these or the easier fit Rover lookers from radioguy ??

Mine descison was soley on Price & Function, plus I had a converted Radio fascia from a previous double din tryout.

I just couldn't justify , the big pennies for the OEM look.

Was wavering at 220+ for one , then a 1 month old Erising popped up for £160 and I snapped it up !!

It does all depend on what you want from the unit ?

DVD, ,Bluetooth, Camera, IPOD, Freeview, Radio, GPS. TMC, etc etc .

And how handy/ practical you are at fitting, as none of its ever staright forward ;)

I have seen mention the Fascias on Fleabay don't fit these double dins straight away ?

Chris ( the best one !! ;))

Certainly not straight forward to fit and varies a great deal depending on what you already have in your car.

I bought the double din fascia off eBay and no units fit it.

I have had to trim the opening in order to get my unit to fit.

Also you have the added problem that there is nothing inside the opening to support your new unit, so you need to purchase or fabricate something for that as well.

If you would plug in and forget then I think the unit Radioguy sells is the way to go.

I personally couldn't justify the expense - plus I like a chellenge.

Chris (the less experienced one)

Looking really good there Chris

I have made a bit of a hash of trimming my fascia - the double din off of eBay.

Think will have to get the Walnut stuff available via here to cover up my mess. It's not too bad but not as professional looking as I would like.

Am still awaiting my BMW to ISO convertor to arrive so haven't trial fitted mine in the car yet.

To get the HK stuff working is not going to be as simple as I had hoped as the same connectors for the speaker wiring are not in mine as others have posted.

Have you fitted a reversing camera? Is an upgrade I might add in the future.

Chris

[quote=kissifer1972;563126]Looking really good there Chris

I have made a bit of a hash of trimming my fascia - the double din off of eBay.

Think will have to get the Walnut stuff available via here to cover up my mess. It's not too bad but not as professional looking as I would like.


Suprising what you can cover up with Filler /paint etc :D

My modded radio fascia was painted rubbed back repainted many time before I was happy!.

Am still awaiting my BMW to ISO convertor to arrive so haven't trial fitted mine in the car yet.


Have you fitted a reversing camera? Is an upgrade I might add in the future.

Not yet , still using my £15 beepers.. but just been deciding what sort to get . I want one that almost hidden or one that replaces one of the Number plate lights.


Chris ( the older ?? one)

puzzled as to why TT7 dosent work when it does with navigo units?

both being chinese and wince:shrug: I couldn't be without "homer" now....:D

Lads - Sean (Radioguy) can also supply a fascia for our cars.

It maybe worth while getting a price from him if the fitting is better.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...aced64cec4.jpg

When I asked which is best unit I meant of the erising 962,963 etc .

From the Chinglish decriptions :D

The basic Stuff looks very similar it seems only the Outside fascia is different
with its left side twiddly volume knob. most other stuff the functions and the software seem the same .

I personally went for the 962 cos of the price !! .

C

I got the 963 because there is 1 seller on eBay providing it with built in TMC and got it via auction for the same price as a unit without TMC.

As the other Chris has said , very little to choose between them from a functions and software point of view.

Due to feedback from others I avoided the motorised screen units, apparently the touch screens can be a little weak?

Chris (the younger one)

[quote=kissifer1972;563509]I got the 963 because there is 1 seller on eBay providing it with built in TMC and got it via auction for the same price as a unit without TMC.


Hope you do get TMC, as these dear little oriental sellers are well known for
making claims for features that actually are not included!!
Even Radioguy had this problem with TMC originally ? ..If I recall correctly ?

Chris ( The tired one ! )



PS been scouring the Easy Rising Web page , and the only fucntional dif between the 962 and 963 is the 962 has the additional micro SD card Slot
the 963 does not seem to have it ?

That is quite correct you can't have satnav on a micro and use another SD card in another slot. Makes no difference to me as I don't intend to use it for anything other than the SatNav.

I intend to use my ipod for music.

With regard to TMC - all I can say at the moment is mine has an extra aerial slot on the rear of the unit labelled TMC. I assume it needs an additional FM aerial source for the TMC

Hi Chris,
Trying not to hijack the thread , Just to Clarify, In the Beginning the Chinese SELLERS (Not factory) were claiming TMC , They were not Equipped with TMC , they kinda rode a horse of ADDING TMC to the cost because a few original buyers were able to access TMC via the GPS. This was due to a Specific chip (ROYALTEK) used on the GPS Side.
We never claimed TMC as an Option until now and only are adding cost because after a battle with the factory to add it THEY added cost for the Royaltek Chip.

Sorry to intrude, just didn't want anyone thinking that we were making false claims in the beginning ! I wills skidaddle now !


[QUOTE=ceedy;563560]

[quote=Radioguy;563603]Hi Chris,
Trying not to hijack the thread , Just to Clarify, In the Beginning the Chinese SELLERS (Not factory) were claiming TMC , They were not Equipped with TMC , they kinda rode a horse of ADDING TMC to the cost because a few original buyers were able to access TMC via the GPS. This was due to a Specific chip (ROYALTEK) used on the GPS Side.
We never claimed TMC as an Option until now and only are adding cost because after a battle with the factory to add it THEY added cost for the Royaltek Chip.

Sorry to intrude, just didn't want anyone thinking that we were making false claims in the beginning ! I wills skidaddle now !

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No probs, I wasn't sure, thats why I mentioned the "Chinese sellers" !..

thanks for Clarifying !!
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PS.. On My 962 Just found that If I select the Down arrow on the bluetooth screen It will copy the Phone book entries !!!

Well after all the highs of getting Double Din installed ....

Theres a distinct possibility that my Erising 962 has packed up !!
:mad::shrug::(:confused:

home from work this PM all radio etc .. working as usual no probs.
switched off as normal .. in for cuppa !!

Went back out a bit later swtich all on .. Boot screen up ok..

Satnav says No signal ? eh!!! there not even an SD card in it ??

why its not asking for IGo ??

then realise its a bit quiet ?... Volume up to flat out and can just hear music ..
same on all modes.

Reset .. no change .. setup steering all ok. All operations and screen presses beep and every menu works as it should but no GPS and no sound ! *&^%$£$%£$^%£$%£$54 !!! ETC ..

Chris

Is there a "reset" button in it somewhere?

Yup used that a few times with no difference :confused:

on odd occasions when GPS is switched the screen goes slowly very bright then the menu switches back what other mode it was in before :shrug:

defin something amiss ?

C.

You think this is why previous owner was selling??

Was there any sort of warranty with it - mine came with 2 years RTB warranty.

Chris

Chris

If you need help and advice to return it Let me know. It can be both expensive and tricky. They CAN be Lost forever if it is not done properly.

Its latest symptoms are all boots up ok . blue tooth connects, all menus ok , all the setups work ,
GPS doesn't even moan it can't find the SD card ( which is not there).. all sound barely audible at max setting.
then press GPS , reports no signal , switch GPS off & back to other mode.
then after few seconds the screen gradually goes brighter until
totally white then nothing works. have to reset to do it all again .:mad:

I've got all the info and have contacted the seller and the actual ebay shop he got it from came from .. so we see where we go from here..
twas only purchased on the 3rd June 2010. so not very old.

Has worked perfectly for a fortnight so so don't think it was faulty when I got it .
The guy who sold it says he will help me send it back under the original warranty..

Stop press .. minutes ago have just had reply from original the ebay seller who has asked me to do a few obvious things ( already done them !! ) before returning it ? to what should be a UK Address ?

so maybe ?????
here's hoping !

Chris

PS another Saga to keep readers interested ;)..

watch this space !! :D

heres hoping it all works out for you mate...i have just bought a erising model off ebay also should be here tomorrow...with any luck from a uk address also.

Martin

The Sellers last reply from my quite comphrehensive description is " its probably user error"

yeah right .. been using it for 2 weeks ok.. now I can't drive it ?? :shrug:

Anyhow they asked for a Video of the symptoms .. so stuck one on You tube for them..

Its here.30mb

Excuse any minimal voice decriptions its for our Oriental viewers ? ;)

Well its gets better !! :shrug:.

The blokes in China can't view my video due to censorship!! great! :(..

So made 3 smaller ( still 10mb each ) and have emailed them seperately.

Will see if this works ? ...

Got a much better Freeview reception with one of Capese's Aerials..
Not perfect cos the signal round here.. but still actually got one outside the house , whereas normally nothing at all.

Seem the units problem is all centred around the GPS system, which I think is seperate from the rest of the system.
But that does not explain the audio disappearing down to a faint whisper ?

back soon

Chris

You are correct in saying that the multimedia and GPS are essentially separate parts.

I'm only guessing here but obviously the audio is common to both so it is possible that a fault on the GPS board could affect the multimedia audio.

Well ... they've had 1 video and replied already ..

saying .... thanks don't bother with the others..

A bit late as all have gone... had to send 4 in all as number 2 got bounced by my isp as over the 10mb limit..

Watch this space ? :D

I totally agree with Eamonn, if the sound is "muted" then it a problem with the GPS, when IGO say's a command it mutes the radio so you can "just" hear it in the background, and as you had a problem with loading IGO I would say that is the problem, I would suggest you download a copy of TomTom Version 6 and give that a try it "might" clear your problem

Have a look at:-
http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=658&t=2293

You may ALSO try a HARD reset by disconnecting the unit from power (Like pull your battery cable) for about 3-4 hours or overnight. This is standard procedure to clear caches and glitches.

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But the GPS does not seem to check the SD card any more.. if the card is not inserted or the program was wrong before , the GPS used to pop up and complain !.. asking for the program path!

This doesn't happen any more , it was running IGO last time just before it decided to muck around, so Tomtom Would need a path edit ?.

Chris

Sorry Chris, I did not know it wasn't reading the card now, are you not able to go into the setup and see the storage card any more?

And did you check the SD card on your Computer? Can you see the files there?

This really doesn't sound good.

Hope you don't have to send it back to China. Will they pay for the return postage if you do?

I have an issue with the radio on my headunit and Radioguy has already dispatched a replacement so as I wouldn't be without sounds in my car.

BTW Radioguy, if you think you are getting the original unit back you can think again. I'm gonna sell it on eBay :D :D

Eamonn, I bet you get more for it than Sean is selling them for!!!

Hmpfhhhhh Probably not a good idea for me to buy it back on Ebay !

I'll find out in a few weeks time ;)

I'll give you a good discount as you're a member of this Forum :D

Just had another thought Ceedy - can you remove the GPS board on your unit?

You will probably invalidate the warranty but the audio should correct itself.

Further to Eamonn's idea, I do have a spare GPS board that works fine, if you could take a picture of yours I will see if it is the same as mine, I brought another one so I could do the USB mod it cost me £70.00 but it could sort your problem out, if its the same, I am sure we can sort something out on the deal.

Until its the last resort reckon I'll leave it together with the seal intact..;)

But did take the only easily removable cover off before fitting.. just being nosey...

Took a Picture.... viewed from the rear facing the back of the LCD

Does it look familiar to anyone ??

http://i29.tinypic.com/6rsgie.jpg





Chris

That's a shame it look completely different to the GPS board in Sean's units.

http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/IMG_0104.jpg
http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/IMG_0105.jpg

Had another reply back from China, from the Company Shuitalin and an addendum from the Seller .."Otter Shop".

A bit confusing so have asked to try and clarify ?.

the Company have asked me to open the unit and check a Ribbon cable ,
but haven't specified which one ?..

And Otter shop have said ! the GPS documents may have been damaged",
I think what they mean is the GPS software, they have mentioned an exchange ? but I don't know whether this is software/hardware/ the whole thing or just a part ?? .. we will see ..

Not pulling it to bits until I know!

At least something is going on ..:confused:

Using ole Ken wood again at the mo ..must have some Muzic ;)

Chris



Stop press!! :D

reply back from China in 5 mins!!!

Seems the "damaged document" bit was for another customer an they made a boo-boo in sending it to me ,

But still want me to check the ribbon, but still not said which one :shrug:..

will poke and look at it about when I get home .

Chris..

Almost as good as episodes of Emmerfail init !!!

nah more interesting !! ;) :getmecoat:

Whipped it apart , checked all the ribbons as the Seller requested , nothing seems amiss , and retested it with no difference!!, didn't expect anything, but had to go through the motions.


Did a few Photos' for info ..

heres the GPS Board in close up ... similar layout to Tony Frys pic ..

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/-closeup.jpg


and photobucket if you are interested in the rest of the pictures

http://s277.photobucket.com/albums/kk74/ceedy44/

Hi Chris,

Just had a look at my GPS board, the main part of the board looks the same, but where your one is different is where it plugs into the main board, its a shame they were not the same, I could have sent my one for you to test.

SORRY

No probs. but the board layout is very simlar ? .

Plus looks like mine is soldered in ..

just waiting for the Supplier to get out of bed and answer my last emails ..

Chris

i was reading through my Erising 907d user manual last night and remember seeing something about the unit going white whilst doing something with GPS, wonder if it may help you mate...i will have another read when im home from work this avo....

Martin

Another message from the Manufacturer tech?? bods ..

Seems I have a problem with the GPS.... doh!!! ..

They want to send me a GPS module .. and show me how to fit it ??

Any " deja vous" here Tony ... :D

Chris

Yes Chris, been been there, done that :mad:

I would suggest you refuse this offer, I took my head unit to a electrical shop and got them to remove the old module and refit the new the GPS module (I am no good with a solder iron) , when I got it back it still didn't work, so not only did it cost me £30.00 for the shop to swap over the board, but then I had to return it to the factory at a cost of £70.00 AND I never received any refunds, when I got the unit back after 6 weeks they had replaced the GPS module with a NON TMC one, so I also lost another $40.00

That is the BIG problem with buying these types of units from China, boy am I glad Sean (Radioguy) came along :}

Just a question ?

With my unit currently unwell.. been ponderin', well gotta do something ?;)
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Is there any faint possibility, that the system firmware carn be screwed up
by any IGO modifcations, I.e Adding of skins , maps, etc .

wondering as all my problems seem to centre around the GPS system.

I would love to know how the system runs ??. boot up sequence ? etc ..

For info .. I have found a Set of firmware install files on the Net , on a Forum, that was supplied by the manufacturer to another user who had screwed up his system somehow? .
This is supoosedly just for the Erising 962d ? So I grabbed the files quick.

Well ..thats what the forums thread was all about .

But embedded Firmware is a tricky area!! get it wrong and OOEER!!

Chris

Hi Chris,

By you adding skins ECT will make NO difference as it has nothing to do with the firmware, on my original unit from Sean I had a similar problem after just two hours in the car, I just LOST the SD card, nothing would show up when you went into the Sat Nav settings NO storage card showing and that was with the IGO that was sent with the unit, no skins or anything added. just bad luck with your unit.

Cheers tony,

I asked cos it happened to pack up at the same time I tried those IGO branding files and some Skins from the IGO8 blogspot site.
But then I had fiddled before with IGO , got some resolutions wrong and all it did was give an Error message from WinCE.
Popped Old card in and all back to normal .
From Info on and around it looks like we aren't the only ones with this GPS card problem ?

Chris

For everyone except Tony Fry.... ( He will only say I told you so!!) :D

But I've been quiet waiting for this GPS board They insist on wanting to send me ..


http://i38.tinypic.com/2r3h4yr.jpg

so whipped it out !! ooer!! a bit fiddly but straight forward with the right kit

And pop in the new one..

http://i37.tinypic.com/9bjj8p.jpg

guess.!! yup.. he was right no difference.

Still minute volume and no GPS .. exactly

the same symptoms .

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


Waiting the replies to the emails ...
this was bought form a supposed "uk address" so will expect to return to the same place .. we will see.!!

Chris...

Looks like I might need this Assistance .Sean, :bowdown:

But gonna press for a UK return as it supposedly came from a UK source ..

Chris

Chris - finally got round to trial fitting mine today.

Couldn't get any DVD's or CD's to play for more than a few seconds. Just said disc error and then Card and then Blue Screen.

Haven't tried GPS or SatNav so don't know if have any probs there.

Was very impressed with iPod connectivity - full track info displayed on the screen.

Have sent email to seller - will let you know how I get on.

Chris

I DO hope you get s response, now is where they start ignoring your email they think they have done all they can, I did try to warn you.

Hi Chris,
Let me know

Yup...I know , :bowdown:.. but they wouldn't go any further without this
stage being done . s ohad to go through the motions .

But if it doesn't get sort there will be a paypal claim going up them !

But it still going to be sorted !!!

Chris

Chris

They trade under more than 1 name on eBay - I sent emails to 2 companies asking if their eRising units had TMC. They replied telling me I had them the same question twice.

As well as Otter-Shop they are also EasyRising88

I bought mine from a company in Germany, with a London office.

Chris

This one came from otter shop... and they are the ones I'm currently dealing with.


C.
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I bought an Erising from otter shop, and thankfully so far have had no problems. However, had an email today saying that units shipped after 1st August will have custom duty added. (Mine arrived in July, so hopefully will be ok). Their items on ebay still say shipped from UK with no VAT or import duty to pay, so beware.

Here is the text of the message:

Dear Customer:Thanks for your business from us,These days we found that many buyers, especially UK buyers, paid custom charge for the Registered mail parcel,Here we apologize for this, and some buyer just thought it is the postage, please note we have paid the postage for the Registered mail parcel already, you can find the stamp on the envelope still, also you can check, if we did not paid the postage already, HK post will not send the parcel out,The fees your post office charges is just your local custom charge, for the details you can ask your post office,This new rule of custom charge just happens from 1. August, all parcels arrived in UK from 1. August will be charged, as these days many of our customers complained about this, then we just know, as before we also do not know this will happen, we just beg for your professional understanding,Also these days we will revise all our ebay ads and put the news on the top of our item description, we just need time to finish this.Thanks for your understanding on this matter,Customerservice,Nice dayotter-shop

Well My dodgy Unit is winging its way back to China ?? :mad:..
Will will see it anything comes of the masses of promises I have had ..

C.

Hi Chris, I hope it doesn't take as long as mine did, nearly 4 weeks.

Keep us informed of the progress

Chris I would put a paypal claim in NOW, it can always be reversed.

It will make them act quicker as they freeze the traders account so they can not draw off any money

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The parcel is in Paris ;)

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Getting there, may be slow, but it's moving

Well tis in China , has some clearance problem of course .. even I've completed every form as required .. seems they may want extra info that wasn't asked for at the start !!

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Reason For Delay: Recommended Action: 1. The cost of the repair, alteration, warranty for the item(s) on the Commercial Invoice is needed for classification. Market value of the items may also be required. Shipper to provide repair costs or market value.
Please do not respond to this message. This email was sent from an unattended mailbox. This report was generated at approximately 7:11 PM CDT
on 08/25/2010.

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And i can find no info on how to or whether I actually need to supply this info?.

Chris

Just got off live chat with Fedex ..

and according to Fedex this is an automated response ( well knew that :shrug:?)

and Chinese Customs are waiting on contact from the recipient to arrange delivery ???

ermmm! not what it says in the email.. so pretty useful NOT!!! :confused:

Chris

Chris,
You are going to loose it.
That is the cardinal error. NOT SHIPPING PARCEL POST. (Parcelforce/EMS)

They WILL come back to the Seller for taxes, They WILL be exorbitant
Plus Fedex will charge fees for handling the import.

If you can Claim on Paypal DO IT NOW

Just heard back from the supplier of mine.

Mine wouldn't play any CD's or DVD's, well not for more than 30 secs anyway.

They did same as for you - wanted a video and pics of what happened.

However they have asked if I want an exchange unit or a refund??

Am not sure what to do.

Would you go for the replacement or the refund?

Chris

Do you want MY Opinion ! hehehehehe

LOL Sean Wish I could afford one of yours plus a DVB-T box, but alas I can't. Think I'll try a second unit, worst case scenario is same result. At least I know the supplier I use is willing to give refunds and exchanges. Chris

Chris , For the Full amount including shipping ?

Not got that far yet.

I have requested they confirm that it won't cost me anything either way.

Chris

Sean

They want it the faulty unit posting out to China.

What postal service should I use???

No confirmation as to whether I will receive a refund for my shipping costs - I am asking for clarification on that before I return the faulty item.

Chris

Ceedy

How have you got on with yours???

Chris

mines still festering along !! in China as we speak and ??? :mad:

Chris

They have said they will send me out a new unit from their distributors in London but I need to return the faulty unit to China for them to repair it.

So hopefully I won't have to wait long for my new unit.

How much did it cost to send yours to China and what service did you use?

Chris

Chris the best way to sent the unit back is via Parcelforce at your local post office, the unit I sent back a couple of weeks ago cost nearly £70.00, DH ECTL are cheaper, but there will be lots of problems with the Chinese customs.

Yup thats where my unit is at the moment .. in Customs...
been in there for nearly 2 weeks.

Been pushing the courier and the recipient to get it through ...

They are just SOOOOo...inscrutable aren't they .. :mad::mad:

C.

Guys, Use NOTHING But Parcelforce, NO MAtter what they tell you !
Mark the Invoice Outgoing DEFECTIVE and put a Value of 20$

Anything else will cause Chinese Taxes which your suppliers will not pay.
And those taxes are not £20 , Usually More like £150.

Reasoning with Chinese customs is Impossible !
I will also be VERY VERY Surprised if your Supplier will refund any shipping costs at all.

AS a side Note (PLUG) we now have a repair depot in the UK. So No one will be sending to China Anymore except us, if we cannot fix it ourselves !

They have told me to use the Post Office - so I assume they mean Parcel Force.

£70 seems very steep indeed, I'll see what my local PO says regarding the likely price.

If it is going to be that much I will have to raise a PayPal dispute for the fees at least, if they don't reply to my email properly.

They seem to be ignoring my request for them to confirm that they are going to reimburse the postal fees.

Just keep giving me the information as to where to send it and re-iterating a new unit will be sent out.

Chris

Chris

I have just got my receipt for the last unit I sent back it was £58.29 (It goes not only on the weight but also the size of the box) the delivery took near on 2 weeks to arrive in China as the service I want with was the the most cost effective for me, if I waited it there within 7 days it was £74.55, as I had a quote from Parcelforce, As soon as Sean had my tracking number he arranged to have a replacement unit sent out to me which arrived in 4 working days (Which Sean paid for).

On my previous unit (Not from Sean, but another eBay seller they promised to refund my outward costs, I NEVER get the refund and it took a further 3 weeks to arrive back to me, and when it arrived back it was STILL faulty.

Update ...yawn!!!

Still in Chinese Customs..

Got Fedex Chasing on side, and the Recipient the other !! but still in there!! :mad:

What can I say!!!

Chris,
Have they named a "Import Tax" yet?

Sean

Sean,

Who is going to be the company you are going to use here ?...and where are they based ?..

Do I take it if we have an issue within the warranty period, it will be sent to this UK depot and then you will control either the fix or replacement ?..

And is this only in the 1st 7 days or 30 days ? - What is the actual total length of warranty for the unit ?..

Mark they are in Ireland. It is actually an alliance with a renowned forum member ! I am very flexible on the warranty issue timing. The big thing is to report any issues within 7 days. Most of you don't take 7 minutes to get it installed ! I have seen people leave work early to get it in !
Factory warranty is 1 Year

Warranty is different from what I offer, Mine is more a guarantee. Warranties are usually silly , well worded excuses for you to pay for repairs !

Cool,

What I am actually trying to asertain is what happens after say 9 - 12 months and a fault occurs ?..where will the unit end up going to ?..

Cheers

All warranty and repairs will be done within the UK

The pain of poor service is felt long after the joy of the low price is forgotten

http://www.autogpsdvds.com/image/use.../mban1096l.jpg

Accordingto the Recipient( factory) the duty amount has been set and they are happy to pay it ?

But for some reason Customs are " supposed" to br checking the item to ascertain how faulty it is ??? :shrug:

Didn't know they had testing facilties of DVD/GPS system ?;) :shrug:

Conspiracy Conspiracy ??

***Cough****

its finally left customs ..... Well accordingto FEDEX..