Great cars in the news
 

Hi to you all, this is neither a rant or criticism but pure fun and it certainly makes me giggle from time to time.
So I have had the pleasure of owning MG and Rover products over a number of years, and was blessed with some superb vehicles with technology beyond the time of their concept which still works and in many ways featured in more modern cars, but in todays demands they seem to be old fashioned. Over complicated systems have emerged into production and harness the user of such systems as totally incompetent. We have many examples of (I cannot drive systems) for example electronic parking brake, brake system hold, driver assist, cars that park themselves, keyless systems - the list seems endless.
But in the news, we discover a whole new concept that changes everything basic, into a complex nightmare. Now this made me laugh so much :
So you no longer need a key to use your Tesla car. Great ! However the lazyness has caused significant impact to the fashion of trying to be a "Flash Harrry" in your state of the art motor. So the app failed hundreds of users causing issues beyond our normal imagination. So for me, I get my KEY, unlock my front door, cross the threashold of the property, close the door and put this centurys old device into another device, turn it and the property becomes secure again. How satisfying it is ! For centuries we have managed to carry keys quite comfortably and confidently, they even offer the mind a level of security and confidence that we can access our property/equipment with ease and confidence, but his seems no good to the new aspiring EV owner, a key ? So funny the thought that a driver of a car with his Iphone that has failed as they are renoned to easily do both for old and new handsets, could indeed prevent the wheels from turning ! What is wrong with these people, why no key for your car ? Do they need an app to lock their house when they go to work ? All I can say is, I laghed so much when I saw the news article regarding these poor modern idiots left stranded with no access to their fab car !
To conclude this post, I wonder what chance these drivers would stand driving a proper non tecnical car, maybe a Lada Riva, series 2A Land Rover, both of whch are examples of robust reliable built to last vehicles (If looked after properly)
So - Just in case I have missed something out -
You need a charged up car to drive it, and a charged up mobile phone to get into it and drive it, mobile data to communicate and blutooth connections ETC to operate it and the app fails, then you need a taxi or public transport to get home to get your KEY, then return to the stranded advanced technological vehicle and manually interact with it to get into and maybe try driving it back home to put you key in the front door to unlock it again ?

WOW FANTASTIC, Wake up lazy people, old fashioned stuff still works ok !:}

I’ve not read the article but the way I understood it was that the app side went down but the cars weren’t stranded as there was another means of entering? My Ioniq has remote opening via an app but also a key and keyeless via a button on the handle

Here is the problem with that paragraph. The writer calls others 'modern idiots' and 'lazy'. Only an idiotic person (there may be a better four-letter description beginning with p!) would do this, whether for light-hearted entertainment or out of serious belief.

One of the problems with car keys is that a lot of modern clothing is tight, figure hugging and designed to accentuate the natural form of man or womanhood. What sort of an idiot would wish to ruin that by putting a bunch of keys in their back pocket?

So many old fashioned Luddites just do not get the opportunities offered by modern technology nor do they understand how it actually works.

I used to work with someone many years ago, who always said "you are confusing me" and never "I cannot understand". Even now I see this quality in many citizens.

Isn't this fun? :}

That aside, if the app had failed, the news article suggested that drivers had been stranded while away from their key rendering them to be right in the brown stuff.
I have experiencince working with the modern cars as a tester within one of the on-line car supermarkets, some of the tech is cited as funky, but most of it inevitably will fail, and cause significant issues into the future, at significant cost ignoring the simple things which were histrically perfectly acceptible for everyday use. Just my thoughts on this. Others may not agree, and we all have to simply get on with it but overcomplicating things will cause issues further down the line and so many of these cars will become valueless by the cost of repairing and lack of skills and understanding how it all peices together to work.

I have tested plenty of Iconic's and they seem a little boring with little character, but on balance, they are a well put together car with great future alongside their competitors.

No I dont reckon any of what you say is correct,its all because 50% plus of them are fat and the clothes dont fit because they buy the size they think/hope they are. You see Ravinder I do understand.(and I feel much better now) Chris.S.

So the fashion comes before basic needs of a key, I see where this is going.I would rather be able to use my car because of a bulge in my pocket, rather than be sat stranded in the rain. BTW, where does your phone get carried if a key is too big ?

This just proves my point. Have you never seen a person dressed in modern attire as I described? The phone is part of the fashion and in a carefully positioned pocket!

God, we have some work to do. :duh:

My post above was intended to make a point. We all have a choice as to what we buy and how we travel. The car in question has other means of entry and starting. There is no need to label those with differing tastes and aspirations idiots, lazy etc. It's not funny! :cool:

From a manufacturing point of view they have to move forward with technology or they will be left behind other manufacturers . From a tech point of view they are becoming incredibly difficult to fix but the motor trade evolves so fast it’s not surprising there is a huge skill set gap.
Regarding the article I tend not to believe much I read in the press. Last week there was an article in the Daily Mail about a recent spate of tourists parking in the Lake District blocking roads and being inconsiderate, the result would be a ban on cars in the area and they posted two pictures in the article and one showed our ZS. The reality was that the photo was taken in 2019 when the Rannerdale bluebells were in flower and people are encouraged to go and view them. The angle of the photo didn’t show the cars were parked with more of the car off the road and not in fact blocking the road at all. We haven’t owned this car for over 2 years and the cars belonged to locals not tourists.... but if a 2 year old photo taken out of context fits a different news story then why not!

I would sum it up as follows:-

So much of what we have with modern technology is because we can and not necessarily because we need to have it.

The way I heard it was the 'KISS' principle, alternatively expressed as 'If you leave it off, it can't go wrong! There's inevitably plenty to go wrong on any car, it just needs the parts to be made and assembled properly. But glitchy software is a relatively new story that we're all learning to love and appreciate.

I'm not a fan of EVs by any means, but I do think in this instance they have got it right. If I lock my '75 and lose the key, I'm stuffed, but with an EV there is at least an alternative method of entry (the app).

If the EV owners found themselves stranded because the app failed, it's their own fault for not having the key with them as backup :shrug:.

Cliff

Cliff in that statement, it means you need to know what common sense means and how it works, some do not have any ;)

I agree. In the same way as both our keyless entry cars have mechanical keys stored within the keyless transmitter.

All great fun, no doubt!, but wait until artificially intelligent machines start to appear and do the things that humans do, you know the every day things nothing advanced or complex!, how long do you thing it will take these AI machines to figure out that humans, that is to say, ALL humans, are in fact NO LONGER required, what do you thing is going to happen then, all kinds of games can be played out, and humanity goes the way of the dodo, a sort of typical flow diagram of events would be, man appears on earth, man treats everything on the planet with contempt, man thinks he is clever, man introduces technology he cannot control, technology takes over, man becomes extinct.

What does one do now? Whereas once we could have an evening of enjoyment if we tossed our car key into the bowl! :shrug:

Kev

Write down your IP address and throw that in

I do accept one drawback of technologically advanced cars - the human reproduction for which cars like the Ford Cortina were a key platform may not be possible unless those indulging are happy for the DVLA and possibly the whole world to watch. :eek:

Chris, your post is so politically incorrect. We do not have fat people - they are people of lower lightness.

Also, you got my name wrong again. I guess we all look the same? :eek: To keep you happy, I am just going to call myself Ravinder. :cool:

I have to agree with Maninder on this as we need to look forward and embrace new technology. ;)
The trouble is with you load of luddites, :p: :D, is that you see this:-

https://live.staticflickr.com/4261/3...9924b7e2f7.jpg

Whereas I would prefer to see this:-

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1c300e0b_c.jpg

:D