Lower Plenum Drains solution!
 

Introducing the new Jules Plenum Drain Shield (copyright design)
In time for Autumn!


Lower Plenum drains design flaw sorted !!
Long time arriving I know (initial drawings made up back in 2005)

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The design flaw
There is nothing inherently wrong with the 2 lower drains as such, providing it's only clean water that enters them!
It's when leaves, bits of small twigs and pine needles enter them that the trouble begins, and clogs up the almost closed off ends of the rubber tube.
These are in fact one way water valves which let water down but not up from the road.
Some rubber tubes have been cut off or removed altogether (not an ideal solution for obvious reasons as more engine/road noise enters the cabin)


MGR went to all the trouble of making the plenum covers with the square netted holes design (for filtering debris) but they left a 4 inch gaping hole where whole leaves etc can enter together with the Water from the windscreen, forming a muddy sludge.
We all know what happens then !


ie A flooded plenum chamber causes:

• Sloshing water sound round corners.
• Potential ECU damage
• Gallons of water entering the Car (via pollen filter into footwells)
• Long term musty smell & Carpet damage
• Inner sill SRS sensors failure (caused by corrosion)

The gaping hole can be found on the driver's side (RHS for UK models) and LHS for Left hand drive models.
You will find the passenger side is blocked off with a vertical plastic moulding.
"Why didn't they block both sides off? " I hear you say....................because the wiper arm mechanism would fowl it.
This is where our specially designed shield works with it's right angle so avoiding the wiper mechanism.


Description
This is the new Jules Plenum Shield (copyrighted) which needs no tools or expertise to fit.
It is manufactured "in house in North Wales" from a high quality BLACK plastic.
Laser cut for a good fit and appearance.
It's concept is a "Fit & Forget" part that will extend the inspection intervals for the plenum chamber.
ie: Ideally only every 1-2 years or whenever you change the pollen filter.

The shield while still allowing gallons of Water to flow through into the lower drains, catches all the debris thus preventing the tubes from blockages.

Procedure

Remove the drivers side scuttle hatch (very carefully so as not to break the 2 clips)
Pull the sealing strip back about 12 inches (which allows the front edge of main scuttle cover to be raised slightly)
Ease the Jules Plenum Shield in, which slots over the bonnet release cable.
Fit as shown with the U shaped channel butted against the hinge bracket.
Refit the sealing strip & scuttle hatch.

Finally, there's another small hole that needs dealing with.
Clip the plastic netting piece (supplied) into place as shown, to the Washer pipe clip next to the bonnet hinge.
Now all your Plenum worries are over and a £500 ECU is protected!


Ordering
Please allow 5 days delivery

Available in Right Hand Drive & Left hand drive versions


Price £9.95 + £3 UK PP
Payment Details
All major Cards accepted, cheque by post, Bank Transfer using IBAN BIC codes, or Paypal to [email protected]
International Buyers welcome
Tel 01492 535020
Mob 07831 457011

This was the prototype shown in blue. They are now produced in BLACK

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Looks great Jules. And could save peeps a lot of money replacing ECU's.. :}

And beats the hell out of my idea of filling it with concrete. :o :o
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Hi Jules, what would postage be on two of the covers ? Thanks John

Hi John
No extra postage for 2 as they don't weigh much and fit in an A4 Jiffy Bag!
Have you got 2 Cars to fit them to?

Regards
Jules

Hi Jules, payment for two covers just sent. I currently just have my 2005 CDTi Tourer, but other half has agreed I can get a 260 as well when the house is finished :}

i have also ordered a set Jules, great idea well done

The ECU is at the other side, the UK passenger side.

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Great idea money on its way

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Sorry every one posted back in wrong place replicatin pictures

Great idea, palpal sent!

What is the reason for the plastic mesh - just behind the strut bottom mounting in the first photo?

Thanks John
These are even more vital on a 260 as the lower drain holes are only 5/15th inch (8mm) diam holes!

Think we realise that Harry but all the water & debris comes in from the drivers side on a UK Car and sloshes over to the passenger side, if the drain under the servo is blocked (which very few owners can get to!)
The plenum chamber (or double bulkhead ) is all one area.
Any ECU water damaged actually comes from the driver's side
I'll try and dig out a pic with the whole shuttle cover removed and all will be rervealed:cool:

Oh, I didn't realise that - thanks for the explanation.

I have managed to clean out two of the three (they didn't really need it), but I have not yet found the third one under the brake servo - so the photos would be very helpful.

Same purpose as the Main Shield Harry.........to allow water down but not the pesky leaf debris!

You will see it with a torch and telescopic mirror (right under the center line of the servo);)

Ellow Harry. :)

There are 3 plenums sort of.. two small ones situated by the bonnet hinges, and one long very deep one in between those two..

The shallow ones are very easy to get at, and the one on the passenger side has a lil wall between it and the main one that stops any debris getting in from that side..

The shallow one on the driver side does not have a wall due to the wiper arm drive shafts being in the way, so leaves and other rubbish can get into the main plenham from that side thus blocking the drains in the bottom and causing water to slowly fill it up untill it both reaches the ECU and overflows via the pollen filter into the passenger side footwell.. :(

Jules has designed a lil wall that goes in the drivers side to prevent any rubbish getting in from that side.. :D

The wire mesh bit is to block a smaller hole that also lets rubbish into the main plenum box..

If you weren't confused before, you should be by now! :D :D :D
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You are confusin people now James cos there are 2 lower drains (deep)
One underneath the centre line of the servo, the other is in front of the pollen filter.
Pics to follow unless someone beats me to it:o

Perfick :D

My Paypal payment sent as well.

Cheers Jules

Thread stuck
 

I have stuck this thread as its a very good mod/solution and deserves a little sticky time, will unstick in a few weeks.

Small Batch of these turned up today so they're on the way to you Gents
Many Thanks

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Look good Jules - hope you have another batch in by the 20th! Pictures very clear - but where on earth did you find such filthy vehicles to model the mods for you?;)

Ha
We deliberately left them dirty to see where the debris ends up:o

Another batch due on Friday.
Hell they only come from down the road in Denbigh anyway !
Our Bass player (come designer & prototype maker) produces them for me.

Received and fitted, thanks Jules.

Well designed, well executed piece of kit :)

mine arrived today too, not fitted yet but looks superbly made

Thanks Jules,mine arrived today and decided to fit it straight away,just as well I did the drain was blocked once again despite regular checking and the water was probably a couple of inches deep ,soaking up the pollen filter, it looks a well designed bit of kit that should do what it says on the packet,once again many thanks,Ian.:}

Ellow Ian. :D I'm surprised you didn't just send Jules the hole and he could have filled it with biscuits and sent it back.. heh heh.. And pigs can fly innit.. :D :D :D

PS:- For family reasons, am staying in Wimborne in October so gonna have to give West Dorset a miss again for this year.. :(
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Hi James,if I had known you were not coming I could have taken the scone out of the freezer and used that as a debris wall ,never mind its only money.:}

just fitted mine pics below, i also used one of the " netting pieces " supplied
as instructed and held it by undoing one of the bolts passing through the netting and retightening.

The second picture is the passenger side of the car where you can see that there is already an OEM " shield " to stop the debris getting to the lower plenum on that side, Jules shield solve the problem on the other side which as he says was a design flaw

Great bit of kit, and easy to fit, go on order one !

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Jules, you have a PM

Well done Trebor!
I'm waiting for an even better material to deal with the gap around the bonnet hinge.

It will hold itself in place.:cool: No need to undo bolts etc
For anyone who's bought the first batch, I will gladly send this piece when they arrive.

Pics to follow

Hi Jules,
I want one of these, left hand drive, but tell me how much postage to Spain.

Looks great!

Regards.

Hi Eliseo

We are preparing some LHD shields as we speak!
Should be ready middle of next week.

A member in Slovenia is going to test one out to see if it fits.
In theory it will no problem, but we have to check first if you don't mind waiting. (No LHD ones here in Wales to test!)

PM me your address and I'll sned you one.
Postage is the same BTW.

Thanks, Jules. Of course, I'm not in hurry.

By the way, don't worry, I've fitted the shield with Photoshop and it works fine... :D :D


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PM sent.
Regards

:wot: .:clap: .:jig: ..:D

HI Jules.
I would like to purchase your Plenum drain shield and or any instruction to fit. i will pay by Paypal once finalised by payment please post to the address that came with the payment much appreciated Steve (AKA Artic )

PS loving this site.

i am in Walsall if you need any help but they are easy to fit

Hi Rob
thanks that is very kind if i get stuck i will give you a shout i am having trouble with my alarm at the moment keeps going off will put a post up soon about it. cheers Arctic:)

HI All.
it's arrived and i am ready to do the operation will do the drain holes at the sametime, also the pollen filter and the spy hole i have read about i :bowdown:to all those whom go before me. :D can anyone think of anything else that may nee doing in that area while i have the body open to take it's new organ:) was thinking of putting in the drain holes a solid tube from daughter wendy house as it is smoother inside so water may flow better ? will take some pics of job may even do a little video of the transplant. Arctic
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No need to modify the drains once the shield is in place, cos no debris will be going down there ever again :o

Hi Jules
thanks just a thought and wondered if it would have worked :) just sent you an email on the PCV cheers Arctic

If you do a complete "How To..." it could be considered as an entry into the "How To" section for posterity ;):D Best started on a separate thread.... :}

I would like one RHD and 2 LHD. No hurry though, can wait till the LHD ones are ready:D

Hello to everybody from Slovenia!

Last weekend I tested Jules plenum shiled on my LHD Rover 75. As you can see from photos I made, it fits well and Jules made a great job again.

Here are some photos:


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The shield is not broken or damaged, it is just a reflection.
Wiper arm passes shield without any problem.

Thanks to Jules. It was pleasure to participate in testing this LHD shield.


Igor

Thanks, Sigor. Now we know there's no problem fitting the shield.

By the way, my 75 has a bung instead of a drain tube there. Do I need to fit the shield or not? :confused:

Nobody knows?

Hi Begiorlegi

Sorry I've been in Scotland gliding for a few days.
Yes even the later cars with the bung need the shield.
It will fit 99 - 2005 Cars.

Regards
Jules

Ok, pm sent.

Regards.

Bit/lot orf topic......... :o

Ellow Jules, just to let you know my FB.H PCB is now in France with frenchMike. :D

Hope you had a great time flying around in Scotland.. :D :envy:
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Payment sent for a shield :}

Folks
Price reduced to £9.95 for members here (autumn offer)






LHD shields now in Stock;)

Morning James any news with PCB yet?

Many Thanks
Jules

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Folks
Price reduced to £9.95 for members here (autumn offer)

LHD shields now in Stock;)


Hi Jules
I would like one LHD. How much they cost to sent to my adress in Portugal?
Thanks

Evening Jose
£13.95 inc to Portugal

Regards
Jules

Hi again, Jules
Payment sent for a LHD shield.
Regards
José

Just a quick Note to Publicly Thank Jules for the prompt arrival of the new Jules Plenum Drain Shield.
This might be a good time to point out that the new Plenum Drain shield is bent to 105° and not the original 90° as this was found to foul the wiper mechanism.

Jules furnished me with this information after I admitted snapping mine within 30 seconds of opening it :( as ‘I Thought’ it should have been “bent a little further “

Jules suggested I might like to share the information with you all for info so that no-one else was as stupid as me :getmecoat:

My embarrassment was whole and complete as I had carried out the box opening in the kitchen in front of the better half .....

I proceeded to say how neat it was adding “I think it has opened out a little”....

I then proceeded to flex it a little and promptly snapped it, to which I was treated to that withering look that only better halves can give, along with the comment of “That was Clever!!”

anyway, It's a nice piece of kit, and learn from the dunce....dont try and flex it ;)

Nick

Jules

I have two CDTi's and one V6 for an order, all RHD

How many guards should I order to cover the three?

Thanks

Phil

Hi Phil
Three sets will do it!

Just to clear up any confusion.

RHD cars kits contain:

Qty 1 shield and 1 x black sponge filter
(both fit on Drivers side as passenger side already blocked off)


LHD Car kits contain
Qty 1 shield and 1 x black sponge filter
(both fit on Drivers side as passenger side already blocked off)

PS
Just pay the postage amount for one set ;)

Phil if you wish, send them to me and I will fit the pair to L Jay and store the other 2 pairs. If you want that is.

Thanks Jules - I will place an order for 3 sets and ask you to send them to Lewis so that he can put one set on LJ and keep the other two sets for me to fit to the other two CDTi's

Cheers

Phil

Hi Jules, I saw your nifty kit on Wuzerk's car yesterday and I have just made a paypal payment to you for mine. A great design, and I look forward to fitting it. Many thanks matey.

Regards

Paul :}

Hi Paul, sorry for the mini hi-jack
Have not seen you here for ages, good to know your ok, I have offen wondered where you had gone
Good to see you here
Regards
Lyndon......:)

Hi Lyndon, and many thanks matey. My appologies for being on the absent list so long, I've been so busy having two photography/literary books of mine produced and published that aeverything else took a back seat. Roxy is still my pride and joy and I have a lot of catching up to do on here :}

Sorry also for this mini hijack, guys.

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will these fit a 260?
steve

Hi Steve
Thanks for pointing this out !!
Yes they fit any 75 or ZT including the V8

Quite important to fit to a V8 as the lower drains are only a 10mm hole!
More to protect your carpets etc than the ECU of course.

Have just Paypal'd money for a RHD version. Looks like a brilliant idea.

I notice you say "sponge" now instead of "netting" to cover the extra bit of space. Is fitting the sponge obvious?

Hi I'd like a RHD one but you don't seem to have one on ebay. I don't have a paypal account so I need the wife to get one from ebay for me, I'm not very good at this internet stuff sorry.

Yes simply fill the hinge gap with it!
Some more updated pics to follow when time allows;)

Sorry Dave they might appear on eBay one day (when time permits!)
In case you didn't realise, you can still buy things with Palpal (with full protection) without going via eBay!
If your wife has Paypal, simply ask her to log into www.paypal.com and Click "Send Money"

When asked enter my payment email: [email protected]
Enter in the message box what payment is for etc, and it will be in post to you in no time.

Regards
Jules

Sorry Dave they might appear on eBay one day (when time permits!)
In case you didn't realise, you can still buy things with Palpal (with full protection) without going via eBay!
If your wife has Paypal, simply ask her to log into www.paypal.com and Click "Send Money"

When asked enter my payment email: [email protected]
Enter in the message box what payment is for etc, and it will be in post to you in no time.

Regards
Jules[/QUOTE]

Sorry I didn't know you could do that, I've just sent the money 12.95 inc post I hope that's ok, I look forward to fitting and having one less thing to worry about.

Baffle arrived yesterday, fitted today (10 minutes, easy once I'd got it oriented the right way). I'll get some silicon beading stuff to finish the job at the weekend.

I took the opportunity to clear out the passenger side plenum and rod the drains. There was a lot of gunk in there. (As Lates will testify every time he services the car:o)

Hopefully, they'll stay clear now.

Thanks.

Hi Jules
Just to let you know I'm placing an order for two sets RHD.
One for a 2003 ZT260 (mk 1) and the other for a 2004 ZT-T 135 (mk2)

Ta very much

Evening Jules, presume you still have these? and are all details (payment, etc.) the same as i'd like to order one.

Thanks
Steve

Yes all details the same.
Cheers

Hello Jules,

I would like 2 for my LHD cars. Could you let me know what the total is for sending to Sweden and I will pay you directly by paypal. Thanks, Alan C

Are these still available?

Hi
Yes in stock (and made in UK, North Wales)
Please see full details in my forum shop link below.....not eBay.

Good luck

Jules

Excellent, thank you!

Hello Jules,

I would like to order one device for my Rover 75 SE, LHD car.
Could you let me know what the total cost is for sending the goods to Belgium?
I'll pay you by PayPal.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,

Yosh

I've got 2 separate Belgians visiting here early September for work on their V6's !

£4.85 PP ok?

Jules

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I whish I could be the third one to visit you in September, but it won't fit in my agenda😩

So it will be £11.95 plus £ 4.85. Is that correct?

Regards,

Yosh

No it's now £6.95 +£4.85
Jules

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Well, that's a lot cheaper than I thought, Jules 👍.
Just send you the money via PP.
Regards, Yosh

Could I have one too? :o

Do I need one or two? Either way I'd like some :D

Thanks
Umar

Only one kit required for driver's side ;)
If you look at the passenger side (already blanked off with a plastic shield and foam gasket)

Hello Jules,
I'd like to order a plenum drain cover set if they are still available (RHD).

• What is the current price & pp?
• Does the payment, via PayPal, go to [email protected]?
• Delivery address via pm?

Anything else you need to know?

regards,
Ken Lion

great idea - paypal sent.:xmas-smiley-005:

hey Jules - I'm am such a numpty....got so excited by the plenum drain cover I sent the money without realizing that the last posting were much earlier this year....are the covers still available?:icon_redface:

Hi Jules.
Are you still producing the plenum drain cover. for a LHD 75.
could you let me know the price please.

Hi Jules,
i am now a proud owner of a rover 75 but have been reading your reviews on the plenum guard and would like to purchase one if that is Ok with you
Regards Happy Bazza.

Feel free to order .
All info in 1st post.

I cannot despatch until 9th though.

Jules

I will order 1 as well. How much is shipping to The Netherlands?

£4.20 PP
Is is LHD kit you need ?

Thanks Jules,

fitted mine with a slip of sikoflex.

Brilliant design and good service as well.

Many thanks

I have a RHD car here in NL so you can put me down for the RHD one.

Thanks!:}

Ok order away see here :smilie_re:

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...splay.php?f=74

My nearside plenum drains don't have the factory fitted cover so I presume I need two of your covers. Why is this?

I ordered a set through your paypal.

Let me know if I need to pay any more for shipping to The Netherlands.

Thanks :D

My shield kit only fits the drivers side on RHD cars.
(see photos and details on 1st post & a couple below)

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Mine arrived and is now fitted! Thanks for the note on the foam piece, I almost threw it away until i read the note :duh:

Hey bud

A little late to the party here but I'd like one.
As Autumn approaches I'd like to pre-empt the leafy menace....

Let me know if I can go ahead and pay.

After a RHD cover.

Ta

James

Order placed :)

Hi Jules
Are these drain covers still available please
Thanks
Shaun

Hi Shaun.
I am sure Jules still does and will do so in the future supply this great product link below Arctic.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=68328

They sure are.
See 1st post for latest details.


Jules

Paypal and order sent for my V6 project thank you. Right hand drive.;)

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Hi Jules
I have just paid via pay pal for a set of Plenum drain shield covers right hand drive
thank you
Tony

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hi are the plenum fix still available thanks dave

hi are the plenum fix still available thanks dave

Yes just PM me or use the very course black filter sponge as used in fish tanks

Hi Jules are these still available mate ? I notice the plenums are a litle different on the V8 small diameter metal tubes pffttt Cheers Ian

Yes still selling loads of them ;)

I gather from the last post your fix for the plenum is still available? I broke mine trying to swap it from my V8 to my ZTT V6 🤦🏼
Can I purchase another?

Yes still plenty in stock ;)

Should I PM you to buy one?

Paypal to [email protected]

PM for card and BACS payments ;)

Thanks Jules, I guess the price is somewhere on the forum? Easier to PayPal you.

Click 1st post of 1st page of this thread :cool:

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Hi Jules,

Wold be obliged if you would post me one. Can I pay with card and can you send me details to pay to.

Cheers
Mike

Hi Jules, do you still supply the modded gold fan resister?? dont have the facility to solder so your mod would help a lot, would like the plenum covers too. is paypal still an option??

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Hello, are these plenum covers still available, they look perfect for me, especially because my neighbours have a great high conifer hedge. The blasted thing goes right down the side of my driveway, excellent looking solution.

Hi Alan.
You will need to find Jules on FB now has is does not come on here very often now, or you could just use fish tank gauze such has below.

https://i.imgur.com/lMH5T2il.jpg1

https://i.imgur.com/7aV9vIwl.jpg2

https://i.imgur.com/fgfVKnNl.jpg3

https://i.imgur.com/xrWtJnPl.jpg4

That is a clever alternative Dave, I will do that! Just clean it once in a while et voila.
Cheers from Holland.