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Roderick 11th January 2019 12:33

jack point problem
 
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Hi all. An increasingly familiar problem I believe after doing some searches on here.
I was looking near the rear offside sill and took some photos of where the rubber jack point is. There is evidence of rust but also some crack openings. What’s the current advice for making the best repair possible barring eventual replacement and welding?
I have an anti rust treatment called Ferox which has proved pretty good but it’s surface stuff only.

There are only 3 jack points fitted, the front offside is missing. I know some say take them off. Well I tried, but after 17years, it’s well and truly stuck. How are they supposed to come off?
Sorry photos are not good but hopefully show the problem.
Thanks, Ray.

stevestrat 11th January 2019 12:51

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Originally Posted by Roderick (Post 2701494)
How are they supposed to come off?

In theory they are just clipped in with lugs that go into the hole in the sill although I have heard of them being secured with mastic and God knows all what.

Arctic 11th January 2019 13:47

Hi Ray.
I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I think you will find that the sills have gone to far now, and if you care to scrape off the rust it may well hole as mine did.

https://i.imgur.com/fLQrpSSl.jpg1

https://i.imgur.com/VaGcFzCl.jpg2

Roderick 11th January 2019 15:09

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Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2701518)
Hi Ray.
I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I think you will find that the sills have gone to far now, and if you care to scrape off the rust it may well hole as mine did.2


Thanks Steve (not! lol) I have given things a good prod and it seems pretty firm, though no doubt there will be worse to find if I could get the pad off.

If possible I'd like to get it repaired as the car is running extremely well and generally in good condition. MOT passed in October.

So if a decent repairer is known, if possible around Hereford, I'd like to know. Got to drive it back from Italy before then though!
Ray

COLVERT 11th January 2019 19:46

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Originally Posted by Roderick (Post 2701545)
Thanks Steve (not! lol) I have given things a good prod and it seems pretty firm, though no doubt there will be worse to find if I could get the pad off.

If possible I'd like to get it repaired as the car is running extremely well and generally in good condition. MOT passed in October.

So if a decent repairer is known, if possible around Hereford, I'd like to know. Got to drive it back from Italy before then though!
Ray

Well, if you did get a puncture on your trip there are other places to jack the wheel up.
Probably best to carry one of those small cylindrical jacks with you. Not expensive.--:}

Brunty 11th January 2019 20:04

Steve, Arctic, is dead right, looks superficial but once you start prodding you will find total rot! had this on both of my cars offside rear sills go first. Needs a good welder to put it right.

sewerman 11th January 2019 20:29

And if I recall Ray yours was a sea side car so that won't have helped with the rust problems

SD1too 11th January 2019 21:02

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Originally Posted by Roderick (Post 2701545)
So if a decent repairer is known, if possible around Hereford, I'd like to know.

Hello Ray,

I was in this situation recently. Behind that pad is a turret which sits inside the hollow sill to take the weight of the four post lift. The turret was a listed MGR part but is now obsolete. You'll need to find a classic car bodyshop who can fabricate something for you. A good job won't be cheap but it will solve the problem once and for all.

Simon

marinabrian 11th January 2019 22:21

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Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2701691)
A good job won't be cheap but it will solve the problem once and for all.

Simon

We have seen the pictures........... Sadly it won't be the end of the story in the case of the "repair" carried out on the rear inner and outer sill / jacking point section of your car Simon :(

It was an example of what would be described by Charles Ware, as a "short term MOT patch"

With that I mean a chicken poop "weld" with a lot of porosity and undercutting to a section of steel that had not had the tinworm cut back far enough, so much so as the ginger was showing through the paint.

You have to choose carefully when employing someone who is experienced, competent, and takes care and pride in what they do.

A lot of people claim to be classic car restoration specialists, or indeed welders, but I've seen some real horror stories, and yours is not the worst.

This is why when someone who clearly takes great pride in their work such as Tom Hobbs is discovered, then it is worth the effort in employing his services, even if a long journey is involved, if your car is going to be a keeper ;)

It is exactly this type of inattention to detail that lead me to carry out repairs of this nature myself.........properly

Brian :D

maxi_crawf 11th January 2019 22:35

Tom Hobbs is your man, I had my 51 plate 75 done by him, I don't think you will find better to be honest, and to echo what Brian has said, unless you are very lucky, once you can see rust like yours it's too late, they rot from the inside out,

https://www.tjhobbs.com/photos.html#

If you click on the photos section the photo on the top row fourth from the left is my 75, if you want more before, during and after pics message me.


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