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Avoid Mintex
If you'd asked me a month ago "name a brand of brake pads", I would only be able to say Mintex. Well I fitted new Mintex front discs and pads in an altogether neat box last month, BUT every week I'm washing off the crud that's appeared. Never known such sooty pads. Not a happy bunny.
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So that's sooty as well as squealy.
Don't know who made the original OEM pads, but they were always free from both and very good at it. TC |
The pads in the blue SLP boxes were TRW and very good. They are all I use these days.
My experience of Mintex was the same - they squeal and create too much dust. I went back to Vauxhall OEM on my Omega, after trying Mintex, for this reason. |
I had a heap of trouble with mintex pads fitted to our VW UP a couple of years ago. Never ever again.
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Strange world isn’t it? I’ve always used Mintex pads, front and back, on my ZTT ever since I bought it, and never had any excessive dust or squealing issues :shrug:
Always used their disc too but, this time I fitted some MTec drilled and grooved to the front along with Mintex pads. Again, no issues whatsoever :shrug: |
I'll explain what happened to my VW UP
bought a pair of new discs on eBay, but thought I want so decent pads. Bought mintex, within 50 miles I had a serious brake judder. I couldn't be bothered with it so took it to my local garage and told him the discs must be rubbish and could he fit me some more. Picked it up, again within 50 miles a serious judder. I took it back, he swapped the discs again under warranty. Again within 50 miles the judder was back. I thought what can it be, can't be the pads they are mintex, but this was the 3rd pair of discs. Bought some EBC green stuff pads and they were fantastic, the judder never returned. I told Bob at the garage of my findings, he was amazed just as I was. |
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The latter made quality friction material down the road from you in Cleckheaton, until they were swallowed up by TMD friction, and subsequently resold to Japanese NISH. So the question is, were these real Mintex, or one of the plethora of fakes? This is what happens when manufacturing is outsourced to the far east, NISH manufactures in Japan, Korea, India and China, suddenly a well known and respected brand becomes just a logo on a cardboard box containing something of indeterminate quality. An all too familiar story sadly :( Brian :D |
too true, it's a sad state of affairs
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I bought a pair of Mintex front discs 4 months ago and they are rubbish, after a few heavy applications of the brakes they are vibrating.
It will be the last set I buy. They used to be one of the best discs you could buy but they are worse than some of the cheap ones on the market. |
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This is in the back of the MK2 Tourer I am looking at. I was told it had new brake pads. Anyone have experience with Meyle for pads? I know they're a desirable brand for suspension/steering parts.
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I make a point of looking specifically for meyle products.
Just fitted a meyle vortex pcv to my diesel. It looks like a quality product, as did my HD drop links. |
I used to spend many a happy hour chatting with the research and development team at Mintex in Cleckheaton. They would make up "odd" requests for the price of a few pints (often whilst you waited!). Saved my bacon on many vintage projects over the years. Try getting somebody overseas to do that - assuming that they even know how!:shrug:
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The general view I found on Meyle discs and pads is that they are good quality, up there with TRW and Brembo's OEM replacements. They're not cheap either. I ordered a set of TRW discs for a good price, I wanted them specifically because of the black coating on the unswept area of the disc. I have always avoided mintex pads due to the bad reviews of their performance and tendency to create a lot of dust. I fancied trying EBC green stuff pads despite mixed reviews but found a good deal on some Black Diamond Predator Fast road pads so decided to give them a try instead. they're supposed to be at least as good as a decent OEM pad in general performance but with less fade when hot and more "feel". For what I paid, I think they may be worth investigating. |
I have TRW discs and pads all round, the black coating on the edges and hub parts has lasted over a year now and no sign of rust on them, I think the whole set cost about £150 give or take a quid and that included the wire sensors.
They stop well and the dust isn't excessive, I would buy these again. |
I replaced the original discs on my zt at around 90k with mintex. Judder within 20k, another set fitted a year ago, same thing. Don't know about the pads, but the discs are c...p.
And the rear ones were also replaced twice, and are coming off in layers as we speak. |
I was telling my motor factor about this thread yesterday and he has told me something interesting.
He reckons there are a lot of fake brake parts out there for sale, it does not matter where you buy them from but even he has been caught out. The packaging is correct and they even have the correct tamper proof seal on the box but when you return them to the manufacturers they are denying they came from them, I don't know how they can tell but Mintex have been targeted as well as a few other top brands. He reckons though they are cheaper than they should be they are not a lot cheaper to arouse suspicion. He has even seem pads separate from there backing. |
I recently fitted Mintex front discs and pads. All is good. No excessive dust and no squealing.
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My opinion differs to most here it seems.
I honestly quite like the braking performance of Mintex kit, have fitted Mintex pads and discs all round to both my 75 and my partners 25. Dust doesn’t seem a problem for me and they’re completely vibration free. However... The centre of the discs rust so badly and so quickly that I might have to change them soon purely for cosmetic reasons, because it looks ridiculous. And I only fitted them to my 75 a month ago. Surely a bit of paint wont cost them much? |
I agree with the other posts recommending TRW. If you can afford to wait a bit for delivery, Autodoc seem to be offering some of the best deals.
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Sorry to go a little off the O/p post,,,I fitted a complete set of Brembo disks and pads to my recently sold MG. When I fitted them last summer they seemed to take forever to bed in and I had softish brakes for a while. When they did settle down I had really good brakes with minimal to no dust. I was truly amazed at the stay clean nature of my front and rear wheels.
My newly acquired tourer had awful front brakes so I aimed for the brembos again but due to supply probs had to settle for Pagid which while being quick to bed in produce awful amounts of black dust. I recommend Brembo brake parts from ECP. |
When I change mine, I want it to be able to stand on its nose. God knows what I will end up buying to achieve that.
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Perhaps I had fakes, it must be doing a lot of damage to the real manufacturers.
I guess, when I need some, the safest place to purchase will be the manufacturers. |
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The problem with fake parts is big, I have heard of so many instances I could write pages on it. Filters, Spark plugs and poor quality sensors repacked as high quality branded items. |
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They ship from Germany and any returns have to go back there. They are known to send different a different brand than you ordered. Say you order a set of TRW discs, they may send you a set of Stark discs instead. They will claim that the TRW discs were damaged so they upgraded you to a better, more expensive option at no extra cost. It's nearly always Stark branded items they send in this situation and if you check, they are one of the most expensive options they stock despite nobody I know ever having heard of them. Autodoc and it's sister companies are based in Berlin. Stark was conveniently founded in Berlin in 2013. It's not easy to find on their sites how to return those unwanted Stark discs you received but it seems they expect you to pay return postage and wait a very long time for a refund. Here's the usual response you get when you contact them about the stark product you didn't order. Quote:
I have never needed to return anything to them so have no idea what their returns policy is like, it's always a risk to save a few pennies. |
I had my TRW brakes from Micks Garage, UK based and I found them to be quite helpful.
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I have literally just purchased a full set of TRW discs, Gates cam belt kit, SKF water pump and drive shaft outer and received exactly what I purchased, so not personally had any issues . . . .yet. Their response you've quoted is completely unacceptable IMO. If the parts ordered are not available, you should be given the choice prior to dispatch on so called equivalent spec parts being sent. |
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Just bought some cheap mintex pads off ebay for our kia ceed
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I heard horror stories a few years ago of fake mintex pads crumbling and separating from the backing plates, luckily the quality of the fakes seems to be better these days so even if you do end up with fakes, they should still stop the car in an emergency and last a while. Hopefully you get genuine mintex. :} |
Does anyone have experience with M-tec pads on a 190 please?
https://www.mtecbrakes.com/brake-dis...-01-05-05.html |
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Thanks Andy. I have Pagid fitted at present, but they do produce quite a bit of dust.
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