160 Remap - pros (and cons?)
 

I picked up a new (to me, of course) diesel tourer 115 and completed the first 140 of, hopefully, many many miles on less than a 1/4 of a tank of diesel. 190,000 on the clock she runs very sweetly and is a credit to her former owner (take a bow Jim, you know who you are). The only difference I noticed is the power delivery. It is progressive and feels relentless where as my previous diesel tourer, which the seller told me had had an xpower upgrade / remap had a real push in the back once the turbo was properly spinning. Would this have been the 160 remap I've seen mentioned and, if so, what are the cons to go with the "pros"?

well i had mine done at 185k and the cars now done 276k and i havent found any cons to having the map on, the cars about to die but thats due to rust not mechanical failure.

con, some insurance companies wont insure the 115 once remapped to 160 as the % increase in HP is too much for them. Adrian Flux however does insure them.
Apart from that cant think of any other cons

At 115 which is what my saloon was it is a bit of a dog and when fully loaded you will notice it struggle.

Pro, wont struggle when fully loaded and can merge a lot better with cars already going faster as it can within reason match their speed.

The CDTI's with the extra BHP already, do not seem to need a remap unless towing a caravan in my experience.

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If you opt for the remap - and as others have said no cons as such i would PM Bigruss a trader on here who will be able to remap you to 160 - he is just up the M1 from you at Liversedge.:xmas-smiley-008:

Cheers, yes I have Big Russ' No. following my woe's of my previous Tourer locking me out. Presumably the power boost has an adverse effect of mpg (hey, I am an adopted Yorkshireman......). The torque band seems wider on the 115 than my previous car but maybe it is just flatter(?)

No change in fuel consumption under normal driving.. Of course you may be tempted to use the extra ooomph more often which may not help :icon_razz:

I must firstly start this post by saying that all modifications should be declared to your insurance company.

But let's be honest, these are old cars now and we're talking about a relatively small power/torque increase over the original, which simply makes them more driveable in modern traffic - it's not turning them into a racing car.

Equally, if an insurance company were to get involved with writing off a 75/ZT, they're highly unlikely to spend thousands of pounds getting the cars ECU interogated to check what tune is present, as I doubt they'd have the knowledge to even know that a 160 version exists ?

With no visual identification that there's been an increase, I'd be amazed if an insurance assessor has the time, funds or facilities to bother checking whats contained in what must now be deemed as an 'oldie' :icon_rolleyes:

Unless I'm missing something, of course...??? :xmas-smiley-008:

:icon_lol::icon_lol:[QUOTE=Rogue;2852317]No change in fuel consumption under normal driving.. Of course you may be tempted to use the extra ooomph more often which may not help :

hahaha - just when over-taking on the Snake Pass! :-)

The thought had briefly crossed my mind. I think a call to Russ or Jules, since my Mum lives in Chester, is on the cards for the new year.

Thanks for everyone's thoughts and comments.

You shouldn't have a push in the back if the car is working as it should, the stock turbo spins up that quick the power should be smooth and taper off around 3750rpm when the turbo runs out of puff. Sounds like you had a faulty MAF.

There are different remaps available, the only thing I can say is, if you have a "160" map put on, have the car put on a dyno afterwards and see what the real number is. Drop a PM to SewerMan on here, he has experienced the "160" maps and beskpoke remaps.

Pros:
Slightly more power than a stock 131
No smoke at all

Cons:
There are maps that can achieve more power, without smoke if the EGR, Manifold and Intercooler are clean.

If you fancy the drive to Cannock I can plug the T4 in and give the car a health check.