Norwegian damsel in distress
 

Trying to assist a Norwegian lady owner: she asked her local garage to give her newly acquired V6 a checkover. They found that the oil level was very low and filled it “too much” without measuring the level. The next day the high temperature warning light appeared for the first time. She returned to the garage and they found that one cylinder was out of action. The garage found water had entered No.2 cylinder, saying “this would have happened anyway”. They then removed the headgasket and even the engine & gearbox condemning the engine.

So, you learned fellows, was the leak of coolant into the cylinder just a coincidence, or a result of overfilling the oil? Opinions please.

Einar, you still around?

Regards

More info: Received this photo, was the leak into No.2 cylinder caused by this gasket?


https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...d7b19166a5.jpg

https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=170573648


aha,,so thats her!...

My experience with the V6`s are not the best...

But my general impression is that garages (not all) are have very little knowledge about Rover engines...Had to SCHOOL a couple of wiseass mechanics about my 1.8T..

The fact of the matter is that she is a lady and maybe they been giving her the..."Your indicator fluid was low and this would have happened yesterday and in 2023 anyway"...Get my drift..:D

My opinion, for what it's worth.-----Coincidence.


Gasket problem.----Can't see high oil doing that.---:shrug:

I would be more concerned about what else they did, if a garage managed to overfill the engine with oil then maybe they 'checked' the coolant as well?

Good detective work, yes that's the one and looks in otherwise fine condition. A couple of us on https://www.facebook.com/groups/1800705170206717/ are trying to advise the owner, I've only got to think about my own wife and how lost she would be listening to a garage, so yes I certainly get your drift. You're most welcome to join us, there are a couple of Norwegians there. Any idea if Einar from Sandnes is still around?

Regards

Just checked Einar was here only two days ago, hopefully he might see this and offer some insight

I think he`s around but I must say I`ve Had more direct contact with other members and seeked advice on here and on different facegroups...

Thank you for the invite,I will join you guys:}

Hi There!

I am still around, but have to admit that I am not a frequent visitor to this forum at the time. Poke me with a PM, and I will be here :)

Regarding this car, I have seen her advert and have done the same thoughts as you. I does not know the details in this case and thoroughly checking is needed to see if this engine is repairable within reasonable limits.
Garages do often go the easy way and recommend "new engine". Especially here in Norway where the labour cost is high and knowledge with Rover engines pretty bad.
Basically, this is something I would have been able to fix if I have had time. It could be as easy as a gasket issue, (IMG or HG). For all we know, the head gasket could have failed due to low coolant/overheating caused by a leaking thermostat housing. The big question here if the engine has been damaged due to potential overheating?. Cylinder heads are replaceable/repairable and liners/piston also if needed, but this kind of work is only done by competent DIY-ers as garages will only replace the engine.
I guess this is pretty frustrating for her.

Rgds
Einar

The tightness of the set screws clamping the inlet manifold is often overlooked as the engine manifold settles down over time and heat cycles the screws lose some tension and coolant has the ability to weep into the cylinders 1,2,4,6. If allowed to lay long enough the coolant build up could be significant. Every time I have worked on a KV6 I always try and nip the set screws up.

I have no doubt at all that you could fix it having seen most of your previous posts. And it is very frustrating, like my wife she hasn't a clue what she's even looking at, left to the mercy of the garage and their opinion.

In my opinion the inlet gasket does support evidence of coolant leak into no.2 cylinder but unfortunately I haven't seen any photos of the headgasket or the other IMG. The cam cover gasket is seriously de-laminated, worst I've seen, baked? Wondering why with evidence of IMG failure they then whipped the cylinder head off and removed the whole engine.

But would like to hear your opinion on the state of the inlet manifold gasket, as I'm only an hobby mechanic.

Regards