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gadget1960 28th January 2019 07:09

HID kit ... which is best?
 
Hi all, I was considering upgrading my 75 CDT lights (basic reflectors) to HID, not really interested in changing them to what is already available from the 75 range. Question is ... how many of you have actually done this with your 75? what was the end result like? is the conversion really worth the time / money? and above all .... which kit did you use? as every kit I have seen advertised all claim to be the best for one reason or another and prices range from over £100 right down to about £20 !! , apparently the kits to use are the ones with 'ceramic' bulb holders??? no idea really so any personal experiences would be much appreciated.

Terryf 28th January 2019 07:58

I used hids4u.co.uk fitted in my halogen lights.
Very much better than halogen if fitted correctly, garage did mine.
I switched to Ricks Bi-Xenons when law changed, they are great!
Terry

klarzy 28th January 2019 09:44

Do not put an hid kit in halogen reflector headlights... not only illegal but blinding and you may melt some parts of the headlight....

Get hold of a proper set of second hand xenons...

T-Cut 28th January 2019 09:54

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Originally Posted by Terryf (Post 2706203)
I switched to Ricks Bi-Xenons when law changed,


The law changed? - cos I've been thinking about converting mine but I'm dithering.



TC

Rick-sta 28th January 2019 10:25

DON'T EVER FIT A HID KIT TO REFLECTOR HEADLAMPS :eek:

HID kits were designed to be installed where there is a projector lens inside the headlight, giving it the correct clean cut off beam pattern so that you're not blinding on coming cars.

If you fit a HID to halogen reflectors you will be blinding oncoming cars badly. Ever seen a car coming towards you or in your rear view mirror with extremely bright headlights in a pure white or usually bluish tint light shining out all over the place like as if the car has it's main beams on? that's how it looks when you fit a HID to reflectors.

They also changed the MOT rules last year where now if you fit a HID kit to any halogen headlamp, reflector or projector, it will fail the MOT.

If you want xenon headlamps, purchase and fit a set of genuine factory xenon headlights, they will pass an MOT fine and will not require headlamp washers or self levelling.

zedhed 28th January 2019 10:34

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Originally Posted by Rick-sta (Post 2706255)
DON'T EVER FIT A HID KIT TO REFLECTOR HEADLAMPS :eek:



HID kits were designed to be installed where there is a projector lens inside the headlight, giving it the correct clean cut off beam pattern so that you're not blinding on coming cars.



If you fit a HID to halogen reflectors you will be blinding oncoming cars badly. Ever seen a car coming towards you or in your rear view mirror with extremely bright headlights in a pure white or usually bluish tint light shining out all over the place like as if the car has it's main beams on? that's how it looks when you fit a HID to reflectors.



They also changed the MOT rules last year where now if you fit a HID kit to any halogen headlamp, reflector or projector, it will fail the MOT.



If you want xenon headlamps, purchase and fit a set of genuine factory xenon headlights, they will pass an MOT fine and will not require headlamp washers or self levelling.



That’s what I heard but mine passed mot in the summer


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Rick-sta 28th January 2019 10:49

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Originally Posted by zedhed (Post 2706257)
That’s what I heard but mine passed mot in the summer


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Depends on the MOT tester, could have missed it and not noticed, especially if the HID kit is fitted to halogen projectors and is well hidden, as visually there's no difference between halogen projectors and xenons apart from "xenon technology" written on the black lens inserts (the very early xenons didn't have this either) and the ballast on the back of the headlight. To someone not familiar with the car this wouldn't be so obvious.

Also some MOT testers may choose to ignore it and pass the car anyway.

It should now fail if there is a HID kit fitted to a halogen headlamp, but of course it can always sneak though.

zedhed 28th January 2019 10:52

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Originally Posted by Rick-sta (Post 2706263)
Depends on the MOT tester, could have missed it and not noticed, especially if the HID kit is fitted to halogen projectors and is well hidden, as visually there's no difference between halogen projectors and xenons apart from "xenon technology" written on the black lens inserts (the very early xenons didn't have this either) and the ballast on the back of the headlight. To someone not familiar with the car this wouldn't be so obvious.



Also some MOT testers may choose to ignore it and pass the car anyway.



It should now fail if there is a HID kit fitted to a halogen headlamp, but of course it can always sneak though.



Surely they couldent miss em though when emitting a blue tinge of light.as you say though,he probably chose to ignore it,but normally they are quite strict,then again though I am a very good customer😁


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Rick-sta 28th January 2019 10:58

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Originally Posted by zedhed (Post 2706264)
Surely they couldent miss em though when emitting a blue tinge of light.as you say though,he probably chose to ignore it,but normally they are quite strict,then again though I am a very good customer😁


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Not all HID kits to give off a blue tinge. 4300k is OEM colour temp which gives off a sort of milky white light from close up, 6000k is pure white, 8000k or above starts going blue and eventually purple. But even if the MOT tester notices he might not spot it's an aftermarket HID kit and may assume the headlights are factory xenons. Even with factory xenons you can change the burners to 6000k.

I think we will see a lot of cars passing with HID kits still fitted, as I still see many cars here in south Essex with HID kits fitted to halogen reflector lamps.

Neil1 28th January 2019 11:33

The original rules with HID's was to have them self-levelling and have headlight wash.

Which is what is fitted to my car.

You can get away with a blue tint to headlights but only if they are HID's.

My car failed last year for having aftermarket side light bulbs as they had a blue tint to them, now I have gone back to the original bulbs which are rubbish, but that's the rules.

I had one of my HID D2S bulbs fail, that means the bumper has to come off to change them and it's advisable to replace both in case the other one goes.
I had them replaced with 6000k bulbs, wow what a difference, I can now see down the road for a change.
The other bulb was starting to fail because it had a pink hue to it.:}


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