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simon.jane 13th June 2019 15:00

This is a bad design
 
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I am going to get the big welder out tomorrow and try to fix this.


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ceedy 13th June 2019 15:15

needs long thicker plate as a load spreader :duh:

roverbarmy 13th June 2019 15:16

It outlasted the warranty period! :getmecoat:

simon.jane 13th June 2019 15:21

I post some photos of the job as and how l do it.


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T-Cut 13th June 2019 16:52

From what I've read, fatigue like that can be caused by the spring-loaded lid lifting modification. Several threads discuss the problem, so if there's no springs now, was there in the past? I must keep an eye on mine, which has the lift kit.

TC

Jamiewelch 13th June 2019 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Cut (Post 2740380)
From what I've read, fatigue like that can be caused by the spring-loaded lid lifting modification. Several threads discuss the problem, so if there's no springs now, was there in the past? I must keep an eye on mine, which has the lift kit.

TC

OPs car is a tourer not a saloon :)

T-Cut 13th June 2019 18:59

Ah, I couldn't tell from the gigaphotos.
Anyway saloon owners note.


TC

Sonic ZS 13th June 2019 19:08

It is a design flaw - if you think about the loading on the pin, all the weight is pushing downwards, this gets transmitted through the pin to the plate.

Now, if the plate had been welded to the outside of the panel, it would spread the load beneath it, BUT because they wanted it to look nice and not be a rust trap, the plate was attached to the rear of the panel so all the force goes through the two small spot-welds :duh:

In fairness, they've lasted very well considering the age of our cars.

If you can carefully weld it back into place, just gently unscrew the ball and insert a large repair washer underneath it to spread future loads ;)

All Tourer owners should do this BEFORE the mount cracks and breaks :}

simon.jane 13th June 2019 19:28

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Originally Posted by Sonic ZS (Post 2740434)
It is a design flaw - if you think about the loading on the pin, all the weight is pushing downwards, this gets transmitted through the pin to the plate.



Now, if the plate had been welded to the outside of the panel, it would spread the load beneath it, BUT because they wanted it to look nice and not be a rust trap, the plate was attached to the rear of the panel so all the force goes through the two small spot-welds :duh:



In fairness, they've lasted very well considering the age of our cars.



If you can carefully weld it back into place, just gently unscrew the ball and insert a large repair washer underneath it to spread future loads ;)



All Tourer owners should do this BEFORE the mount cracks and breaks :}



I going to put a plate over it and weld both sides sonic zs l have both of them to do.


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trikey 13th June 2019 19:30

Fit weak struts, problem solved :D


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