MG motor advert offensive to Z owners
 

https://www.desiragroup.com/mg-offers/mg-swappage/

While searching the other day came across this:mad::mad:

It seems to me to infer to scrap a decent ZR to buy a Chinese piece of ####.
We own both a ZR and an MG3 but the 3 is no match for the ZR 115 TD in any department.
I left desira a poor review but rang them today and some idiot was basically taking the pi$$ so the review stays

The reason I'm so annoyed is that when you visit most but not all SIAC MG dealers they are very keen to tell you they are NOTHING to do with MG Rover of the past so if this is the case the ZR is nothing to do with them (I appreciate SIAC own the intellectual rights to the ZR)
It does nothing for MG Zs to achieve proper classic status and is bad for used prices of our cars.
Desira tells me that advertisement is a national MG motor campaign but I cant find other dealers with it.
I suggested to them that they photoshop something to make a generic car but he would have none of it.
If you look at their reviews you can see the one I left them , leave your own if you wish .

Although its branded swappage it is actually to advertise a scrappage scheme by MG motor , although in theory and vehicle in this could be bought unlike the government scheme but that depends on someone recognising an historic vehicle

I think old mg-rovers are often victims of that, as there is no corporation that will take offence any more. There were a few breakdown ads that used them. Would I trade in my distinctive 25 bubble for a chunky SUV, looking much the same as every other brand? No, but looking around I guess I’m in the minority. :shrug:

I would take any MG-Rover model over any of the Chinese MGs.

In fact I’d take most MG-Rovers over most of what's on the roads these days.

Schemes like this will make a dent in the numbers of surviving MG-Rovers no doubt, but I’d like to think it will be ones that are a little past their best and not enthusiast owned good examples. This in turn will make the cars even more rare and they may ever so slightly go up in value in time.

Adverts like this do nothing for the survival of our cars, I find this terrible for a MG dealer to put our cars down in this way.

If I was in the market for a new car (Which I am not) I would definitely be giving these guys a swerve.

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The mere fact that they are offering such large discounts says that their cars would never sell at the official price, and that ours are worth more. I have noticed a rise in prices for good (but not exceptional) examples anyway.

Trophy Yellow, now there is something to aspire to, unlike the current crop of "MG".


I was speaking to a chap only last week who has had no end of issues with his MG3 which has spent more time in the workshop of Bulldog Garage, than on his driveway.


Given the choice between a badge engineered 25, or simply a Chinese badge, I know what I'd be buying !!

This is just another indication that shows that MG Motor is not really MG but SAIC.
Ads like these show that SAIC only cares about the heritage of the MG brand when it can be used to sell their SUVs and pickup trucks.
At my stage in life it is unlikely that I will buy another new car but If I was to it certainly wouldn't be "Made in China", SAIC, Geely or otherwise.

Well if the standard of many of the spares that emenate from China is anything to go by, l certainly wouldn't want a complete car made by them. :shrug:

The MG3 we have was screwed together at longbridge so has European tyres and wipers but doesn't feel that substantial. The reason I recommended it is that it is easy to service and very simple. The general arrangement of the suspension is identical to the maestro.
The dealer in brandon were really good the service manager had a ZS and metro turbo but this lot in diss seem quite obnoxious, even recommending to me I come and try the new MGs and suggesting I have my MGs serviced there:eek:
I'm hoping I get a response from Danny Hopkins from practical classics as if SIAC want the MG badge that comes with some moral responsibility in this country

That's a nice signal box in Brandon.

To be fair, no mg zr is ever going to be worth £7000.

Shame its not used anymore

Never say never, good ones especially decent spec and performance are going for over five at dealers now.
All MG rover and BL stuff is quietly creeping up

A friend of mine is a MOT tester, ( no, he doesn't do me any favours when my car needs to be tested! :o )
He had a MG3 that was 4 years old on his lift for a test, he said he was surprised how much surface rust was underneath and could imagine that in the next couple of years it would require welding.
It also failed on a couple of suspension components, but at 30,000 miles which it had done there about's this could be expected.

On the flip side, my wife has a 2003 Rover 25.
Underneath it is still extremely good. Never been welded, never been waxoyled either before you ask. It's not garaged as we don't have one, so it's out rain come shine.
The wings are starting to go tatty, but this is all.

I wonder what any of the new MG range will be like for longevity when they reach 17 plus years old?

I think there are a couple of monogram owners that would argue that case.

What about the V8?

Wonder how you would fit a V8 in a 25/ZR:shrug:

Ive looked at the ad and unless I am mistaken its a picture of a ZR no mention of ZR`s especially being broken its just a generic picture of a ZR. If you used a Vauxhall or any other brand they would have to cover up or even make an effort to cover the Vauxhall decals and grill etc.
The majority of ZRs left are rusty abused scrap with the odd exception of the monograms etc by members club owners but if you asked Joe Bloggs in the street they would say they were NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- anyway.(Wrongly or rightly).
Chill everyone!:} As said the new ones must be poor if they are trying to give them away. Ive had a few 25s and were steady cars for little money and cost very little to run just outdated by all the new or same age cars.

Indeed. The one at Highams Park in Chingford has been repurposed as a coffee shop which is a nice idea.

Well maybe it’s just me, but I’m not so easily offended that a photo upsets me. It’s just an advert, There’s no offensive or derogatory comments against the ZR or other old cars, simply a photo of an old car. They probably thought the MG connection would appeal to some, as it does me, my wife having just bought a ZS. It says in the text that you can swap any make or model of car, not just rusty old rovers. The people going for this scheme won’t be the keen enthusiasts, they’ll be the people who are running their cars into the ground anyway.

What I’m more interested in is the fact it’s a swap page scheme, not scrappage, so what happens to the cars they take in? Are sending them to auction or scrapping?

Sorry, thought that the post was ref the advert showing and MG in general, not specifically just the ZR. My mistake.
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What annoys me is they love to tell you they are nothing to do with MGR, I can't see BMW doing the same with a real mini on a similar poster as they know it will alienate real mini owners and put them off the new ones

Let me tell you all a true story as an ex MG Motor Longbridge employee. We obviously seen how poor the quality is from China, we often said "chinese S***" to things. Anyway, William Wang who I'm sure some of you will know is the MD of MG UK, he got wind of this and got everyone in the conference centre (now used by paul rigby) and ranted saying how fed up he was of hearing people saying Chinese S***, and that Rover was S*** and China was good. I don't think he appreciated everyone laughing at him...

As a former owner of two MG6s, the ZT wipes the floor off them, much better quality product in many way. We often tried to buy left over ex MGR pool cars & unsold ones left behind but were told by William that if we want an MG we have to buy a new one. He crushed a load of them to be spiteful to us.

Are you sure Wang is his full name? 🤔

Only thing I'll trade my 75 for is a 75 tourer thanks. (or maybe 2 45 diesels :D)

Guess his real name rhymes with either Irish Punt, or bank manager. :mad::mad::mad:

Yes, when the Chinese come to uk they were given a choice of English names to pick from, that is the truth. His real name is Hao Wang from memory.

:D :D

I think you missed the point of my post. I was wondering if he was related to Mr Kerr. ;)