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N00b 24th April 2021 20:20

For the technical bods
 
EGR bypass.
Are there any negatives to having one of these fitted and, if not, can anyone recommend a good one?

2Diesels 24th April 2021 20:27

The only negative that springs to mind is the fact that insurance companies class it as a modification. Other than that it does no harm, egr is just a way of asking an engine to eat it’s own excrement. As for which one, I think they’re all much of a muchness. A cheaper alternative I’d to unplug the solenoid & clean the valve out & make sure it shuts

COLVERT 24th April 2021 20:31

More on the EGR Bypass Valve....Modify or Leave alone------------:shrug:


Search for the above.

breakfastinsmethwick 24th April 2021 20:37

I wonder if disabling the ECR increases acid dilution in the engine oil. It certainly helps to poison the air we breath.

trikey 24th April 2021 20:38

The other negative is that it can break the egr flexi pipe on some autos!!

Don't know why it does this but i have seen it happen to a few, never seen a fractured pipe on a manual :shrug:

N00b 24th April 2021 20:57

I was thinking more along the lines of preventative medicine to be honest. EGR blanking kits have been commonplace for years now but it's not something I've ever investigated and as such I don't really know much about it.

Arctic 24th April 2021 23:09

Quote:

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Originally Posted by N00b (Post 2878104)
I was thinking more along the lines of preventative medicine to be honest. EGR blanking kits have been commonplace for years now but it's not something I've ever investigated and as such I don't really know much about it.


Hi David.
Remove your EGR give it a good clean scrap out most of the crud, you can then use swarfega with a tooth brush to do the rest, wash it out with carb cleaner after.

https://i.imgur.com/9JmLql0l.jpg1

https://i.imgur.com/haoLOwml.jpg2

https://i.imgur.com/9JyGTrXl.jpg3



if you want a bypass one gut your original EGR as here below.
https://i.imgur.com/pbfV2YZl.jpg4

https://i.imgur.com/5Lws22Ol.jpg5

https://i.imgur.com/2nm2Vwfl.jpg6

No MOT tester will know the difference ;)

Be warned though no point in any of the above if you do not clean out the manifold as well, remove the MAP sensor wipe that with a rag sprayed with carb cleaner.

To clean the manifold again scrap out most of the crud and then use oven cleaner soak for at least 2-3 hours and jet wash it out repeat if you need to.
https://i.imgur.com/VTJ0hCtl.jpg7

https://i.imgur.com/W3DcmJRl.jpg8

I have seen some really bad ones.
https://i.imgur.com/rhpMpFLl.jpg9

https://i.imgur.com/DfTIylZl.jpg10

You want the inside to look like this.
https://i.imgur.com/uIjpRK8l.jpg11

MAP sensor before and after a clean wipe.
https://i.imgur.com/ahMQa8Ol.jpg12

https://i.imgur.com/jJVEjucl.jpg13

macafee2 25th April 2021 07:05

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Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2878120)
Hi David.
Remove your EGR give it a good clean scrap out most of the crud, you can then use swarfega with a tooth brush to do the rest, wash it out with carb cleaner after.

https://i.imgur.com/9JmLql0l.jpg1

https://i.imgur.com/haoLOwml.jpg2

https://i.imgur.com/9JyGTrXl.jpg3



if you want a bypass one gut your original EGR as here below.
https://i.imgur.com/pbfV2YZl.jpg4

https://i.imgur.com/5Lws22Ol.jpg5

https://i.imgur.com/2nm2Vwfl.jpg6

No MOT tester will know the difference ;)

Be warned though no point in any of the above if you do not clean out the manifold as well, remove the MAP sensor wipe that with a rag sprayed with carb cleaner.

To clean the manifold again scrap out most of the crud and then use oven cleaner soak for at least 2-3 hours and jet wash it out repeat if you need to.
https://i.imgur.com/VTJ0hCtl.jpg7

https://i.imgur.com/W3DcmJRl.jpg8

I have seen some really bad ones.
https://i.imgur.com/rhpMpFLl.jpg9

https://i.imgur.com/DfTIylZl.jpg10

You want the inside to look like this.
https://i.imgur.com/uIjpRK8l.jpg11

MAP sensor before and after a clean wipe.
https://i.imgur.com/ahMQa8Ol.jpg12

https://i.imgur.com/jJVEjucl.jpg13


Arctic, do you do an exchange service, clean ones for crudded up ones?:D

macafee2

Arctic 25th April 2021 08:53

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Originally Posted by macafee2 (Post 2878141)
Arctic, do you do an exchange service, clean ones for crudded up ones?:D

macafee2


Hi Ian.
Only at the Nano meets or if you came to my house that was when you could. I have been asked a few times to post out & exchange and the answer was/is the same, i have six ready to go which if the meets were going would be taken up within the weekend of our meets, we have only one this year so far as a tester due to C19 link below.

A Pm would have to be sent so a time could be allocated for the exchange as you could imagine it gets really busy at our Nano meets or used to :mad:

http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/f...hp?f=197&t=640

Ducati750cc 25th April 2021 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2878157)
Hi Ian.
Only at the Nano meets or if you came to my house that was when you could. I have been asked a few times to post out & exchange and the answer was/is the same, i have six ready to go which if the meets were going would be taken up within the weekend of our meets, we have only one this year so far as a tester due to C19 link below.

A Pm would have to be sent so a time could be allocated for the exchange as you could imagine it gets really busy at our Nano meets or used to :mad:

http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/f...hp?f=197&t=640


As Arctic says, well worth the effort to disembowel the EGR and manifold etc. put aside a couple of unrushed days if you are going to leave the manifold to soak.


I had, still have, but about to scrap, an 02 plate 75 Tourer, that wasn't quite as smooth as my other one, nothing you could put your finger on though, so best place to start is with something that cost nowt.


Did the deed and as Arctic says and shown in his photos, the contamination and restriction in the bores of manifold and EGR has to be seen to be believed.


Once back together, it was as smooth as a sewing machine and had a crisper pick up.


For anyone who doesn't want the down time whilst doing the work, get one of each off a scrapper, work at leisure, then it's a simple afternoons swap over.


As an aside, the old 02 plate I'm scrapping hasn't turned a wheel or even had a door opened for 4 years, I'm using it as a donor car for the tourer I've just been given, on a whim, I put a charged battery on, third crank it started without any fuss or hesitancy, on the 4 year old derv in the tank and settled down to a smooth idle, then suddenly stopped with what, from the drivers seat appeared to be a cloud of steam / smoke, but what was derv spraying from a split in the under bonnet pump to filter head, replaced it, fired it up and left it to idle for 30 mins not a leak of problem in site and as quiet as a mouse.


It's fitted with the cab heater so when I've got nothing to do 🙄😁 I'll see if that still works.


Dipped the oil, OK, stuck some antifreeze on the refractometer, still spot on, it's a pity it was one of those that tin worm got to.


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