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Caskin 16th September 2016 14:41

More help required No Cd player??
 
Hi having just returned to the Forum I'm being forced to post a few questions for which I apologise, but with this one, if I cant find an answer my missus will do her nut!!

My "new" buy a 2003 2.0 CDTI tourer,is great in some respects but in other areas, compared to past models I've owned, seems to be lacking.

In this case it appears it doesn't have a CD player!!! It is fitted with Symphony radio, with buttons clearly marked CD/Tape.....the tape player is in position but no CD player,,,,can I fit a glove box cassette version, and if so how do I connect to back of radio...is It a dockyard job? Is there a socket in place to accept a CD input plug on the back of the radio, is the back of the radio readily accessible? Thanks again..:o

Coups 16th September 2016 16:12

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Originally Posted by Caskin (Post 2365816)
Hi having just returned to the Forum I'm being forced to post a few questions for which I apologise, but with this one, if I cant find an answer my missus will do her nut!!



My "new" buy a 2003 2.0 CDTI tourer,is great in some respects but in other areas, compared to past models I've owned, seems to be lacking.



In this case it appears it doesn't have a CD player!!! It is fitted with Symphony radio, with buttons clearly marked CD/Tape.....the tape player is in position but no CD player,,,,can I fit a glove box cassette version, and if so how do I connect to back of radio...is It a dockyard job? Is there a socket in place to accept a CD input plug on the back of the radio, is the back of the radio readily accessible? Thanks again..:o



The cd changer isn't in a side cubby in the boot is it? Does anything change on the display when you press the cd button?


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Caskin 16th September 2016 18:27

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Originally Posted by Coups (Post 2365852)
The cd changer isn't in a side cubby in the boot is it? Does anything change on the display when you press the cd button?


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No my friend, I used to have one Rover with it in the boot and another with it In the glove box. There is a glove box version on EBay which I am chasing. The selector is marked tape/CD but on pressing nothing happens,Im certain if I put a tape in it would operate, but without a CD player there is no feedback from the CD button.
As I understand it ,the symphony radio is only held in with a piece of trim and four screws, I have the removal tools for the radio ,just hope it has the fittings for a CD player!!! Haven't told the wife yet...Chicken!:shrug:

Davy 17th September 2016 10:52

Hello Derek if you have not already purchased the cd player from e-bay i have one fitted in my tourer that i no longer use and you can have it if you wish free of charge.

Davy

Caskin 18th September 2016 13:37

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 2366216)
Hello Derek if you have not already purchased the cd player from e-bay i have one fitted in my tourer that i no longer use and you can have it if you wish free of charge.

Davy

Davy You are a man after my own heart!!That is/was very decent of you.Unfortunately purchase now made, and although I know I can go through the torturous route of a return, I don't like breaking a contract..but once again that was very kind of you thanks. All the best Derek:bowdown:

raykay 18th September 2016 16:17

When you remove the Symphony, see if there are cables in a blue mini ISO connector (along with a green and yellow one) plugged in the back. That is the connector for the CD changer, if it is there, the other end must be somewhere..... usually under the glove box.

Caskin 18th September 2016 16:46

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Originally Posted by raykay (Post 2366864)
When you remove the Symphony, see if there are cables in a blue mini ISO connector (along with a green and yellow one) plugged in the back. That is the connector for the CD changer, if it is there, the other end must be somewhere..... usually under the glove box.

You Sir are a mind reader as that was about to be my next topic. The CD player I have purchased comes complete with compatible Symphony radio head I have tools etc and code for removal of present and fitting of new.
However on looking all over my glove box I can not find any cables or access holes to rear of radio unit, so on removal of old, do I just drill a hole through the glove box bulkhead etc to attach cables to compatible unit?:shrug:

Duotone 18th September 2016 16:46

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Originally Posted by raykay (Post 2366864)
When you remove the Symphony, see if there are cables in a blue mini ISO connector (along with a green and yellow one) plugged in the back. That is the connector for the CD changer, if it is there, the other end must be somewhere..... usually under the glove box.

This is the back of the Symphony.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...psbcm3u70x.jpg

Dave T

raykay 18th September 2016 18:31

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Originally Posted by Caskin (Post 2366885)
However on looking all over my glove box I can not find any cables or access holes to rear of radio unit, so on removal of old, do I just drill a hole through the glove box bulkhead etc to attach cables to compatible unit?:shrug:

If you remove the glove box, it will be easier to 'feed' the cable through. There should be the holes in it, maybe covered by the lining.

Caskin 19th September 2016 09:03

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Originally Posted by raykay (Post 2366946)
If you remove the glove box, it will be easier to 'feed' the cable through. There should be the holes in it, maybe covered by the lining.

This is where this Forum comes into its own with people like yourself so willing to help. Will do as you suggest and update accordingly, once again many thanks:bowdown:

TomRS 19th September 2016 09:16

Not easier to just replace with a modern stereo that has CD/USB etc? that way you dont loose your glove box space.

Caskin 19th September 2016 11:23

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Originally Posted by TomRS (Post 2367237)
Not easier to just replace with a modern stereo that has CD/USB etc? that way you dont loose your glove box space.

Appreciate your comments ,it has crossed my mind, especially when you consider the government is bringing in digital radio quite soon , like TV,most car radios will no longer be of any use, so when buying ensure its digital, I have a 2010 Mazda MX5 which the wife drives , that has a Bose digital system already in place.
So for time being I'll keep the old 75 in its original condition, then when I have to ,upgrade and also use my Iplayer.All the best Derek

TomRS 19th September 2016 12:28

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Originally Posted by Caskin (Post 2367286)
Appreciate your comments ,it has crossed my mind, especially when you consider the government is bringing in digital radio quite soon , like TV,most car radios will no longer be of any use, so when buying ensure its digital, I have a 2010 Mazda MX5 which the wife drives , that has a Bose digital system already in place.
So for time being I'll keep the old 75 in its original condition, then when I have to ,upgrade and also use my Iplayer.All the best Derek

Understood! just sometimes the cd changer units can outweigh the cost of a cheaper aftermarket radio!

Caskin 19th September 2016 14:36

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Originally Posted by TomRS (Post 2367322)
Understood! just sometimes the cd changer units can outweigh the cost of a cheaper aftermarket radio!

Totally understand, however this unit plus compatible symphony radio cost £50 inc P&P so can bear that......Incidentally I have tried to "thank you" but thank you logo does not seem to appear on your page? Thanks

Caskin 21st September 2016 11:52

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Originally Posted by Duotone (Post 2366886)
This is the back of the Symphony.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...psbcm3u70x.jpg

Dave T

Exchange kit has arrived but radio has had a knock so would rather use mine that is fitted....I know how to remove but can I gain access without disconnecting as I do not appear to have the code for my radio. In the drivers manual there is the VIN, Chassis, and a four digit number that appears to be related to nothing could that be the code? Is there a way if I get stuck, to obtain a code? Thanks Derek

Caskin 21st September 2016 16:51

Can I accept?
 
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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 2366216)
Hello Derek if you have not already purchased the cd player from e-bay i have one fitted in my tourer that i no longer use and you can have it if you wish free of charge.

Davy

Item arrived from EBay badly damaged! So without meaning to be cheeky, may I take you up on your offer and accept?

Postage and insurance my expense, can do via PayPal if you are Ok with that...Thanks Derek

Davy 22nd September 2016 18:34

hello Derek i can send the item no problem but am away in my caravan till monday so can you possibly wait and i will post tuesday, Also do you requie the connection to the radio or did you get one with the damaged item.Send me your address by PM and i will send asap

Davy

Caskin 22nd September 2016 18:55

Message sent,,thank you so much

Richard1973 19th October 2019 12:40

I will hijack this thread as it is relevent to the issue I am having.

I have sourced a changer but realised I didn't have the correct lead. I have now bought a full set of head unit, loom and changer.

I have tried the blue plug of the new loom from the radio to the changer. The changer goes through the CD cassette, so is connected, but when I press the CD/tape button on the head unit all I get is 'no tape' on the display.

I have tried both head units & both changers with the same issue.

i have now unbolted the BCU to gain access to what I thought would be the plug on the current car loom but there doesn't appear to be one. It appears that the stereo loom is part of a bigger one.

I wonder if there is a signal via either the green or yellow plugs that isn't being sent to tell the head unit that a changer is present.

I am running out of ideas now. I have two changers, a loom and 2 head units and still no CD.
Argh.
Help please

Caskin 19th October 2019 13:34

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Originally Posted by Richard1973 (Post 2769607)
I will hijack this thread as it is relevent to the issue I am having.

I have sourced a changer but realised I didn't have the correct lead. I have now bought a full set of head unit, loom and changer.

I have tried the blue plug of the new loom from the radio to the changer. The changer goes through the CD cassette, so is connected, but when I press the CD/tape button on the head unit all I get is 'no tape' on the display.

I have tried both head units & both changers with the same issue.

i have now unbolted the BCU to gain access to what I thought would be the plug on the current car loom but there doesn't appear to be one. It appears that the stereo loom is part of a bigger one.

I wonder if there is a signal via either the green or yellow plugs that isn't being sent to tell the head unit that a changer is present.

I am running out of ideas now. I have two changers, a loom and 2 head units and still no CD.
Argh.
Help please

Assume you have Rover 75 Symphony radio fitted, the connections for the multi changer are contained within the main loom, one is red/white but not too certain about the other. However if you have multi changer ,again I'm assuming you have the Multi Changer independent loom, which has to be connected via plug to CD changer and the other end wired into main loom, follow colour coding of CD changer loom?
If you are fitting an after market head unit, all plugs etc should be included to enable you to marry up with Rover 75 loom. There are a lot of them, but the one thing they will NOT do is activate the original Rover 75 CD changer, most like mine are single disc load?
Plus ensure you have chosen correct main socket/plug to connect to Rover loom? hope this helps

Richard1973 19th October 2019 15:56

Thanks for your quick reply.
You have spurred me on and I think I have fixed it.
I have undone all of the loom tape on the loom I was supplied and determined that the bulk of the wires from the blue plug do go directly to the CD changer bar a couple of thin red and white with yellow flashes wires, that are joined in a bridging block and then go to a thick wire of the same colour that joins the main loom.

I went out to the car and found the same thick red, white and yellow flash wire and found that as part of previous bodging, it has a bullet connector on the end.

I made up a temporary bridging wire and plugged it all in and voila I have a CD player.

Just soldering the two thin wires together now and will then put them into a bullet and try it again before hopefully putting the car all back together again.

Caskin 19th October 2019 18:23

Hi Richard Glad it all worked out,and that I didn't get my wires crossed!!!!

MarkS 21st October 2019 17:14

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Originally Posted by Caskin (Post 2769670)
Hi Richard Glad it all worked out,and that I didn't get my wires crossed!!!!

As the Symphony/Alpine CD players are approaching 20 years old, the grease inside them is drying up, leading to all sorts of failures within the CD player.
If you turn up to the Poole meet this weekend, I will remove and regrease the CD mechanism.

Caskin 22nd October 2019 10:58

HI Mark As you know Cd players I wonder if you could give me some advice on an annoying problem which arose earlier in the year. I purchased one the BMW 46 Octacore
head units which were being offered on this forum. When I inserted my first CD it played but never came out again!! No amount of fiddling will bring it to the service.
The two main players "Andy" (that proved not to be his name , the same went for his place of residence Canada was false)Equally Rob the UK technician is very hard to pin down so that back up is virtually nil!
So I wonder if you could advise on accessing the player or removing the CD?


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