Need Help When Buying A Car Some Distance Away?
Buying a used 75 or ZT that is some distance from where you live, can at best be an inconvenience, and at worst a complete waste of money and time.
I myself wanted to buy a ZT which was for sale in Sheffield some months ago. Not a problem, unless like me you live in Southampton. However, with the help of fellow member Duotone who lived nearby, I was able to get an initial heads up on the car which then enabled me to decide whether to travel the 200 miles and pay the considerable train fare to see the car for myself. Duotone, who I value as a friend, gladly accepted my request to take the initial inspection for me, and he was able to take photographs showing the actual condition of the vehicle, not just the images supplied by the seller. On the strength of his report, I did make the trip, and purchase the car. This experience has prompted me to post a suggestion which other members might find useful. Namely that If you are a club member who has spotted a car for sale on the forums, ebay or Autotrader, but that is located at the other end of the country, why not consider asking any members listed below, who live close by, to take the initial look for you. If the area is not covered, then an appeal in the General forum should be the next best option. With any private sale, one mans 'perfect' may be another mans 'poor', so written descriptions could disappoint, but the beauty of this suggestion is that everyone here has a good eye for our cars, knows what to look for, and can quiz the seller with a detached manner that they couldn't if they themselves were considering buying it. In addition, asking whoever volunteers to view the car for you, to take a few pictures would certainly help in ascertaining the true condition of the car for sale. So please don't be afraid to ask on the off chance, in the long run it could save you a considerable amount of time and money. If there is no volunteer in your area of interest, then please post a request in the General Forum. EDIT: rrobson has compiled an excellent check list of things to look for when viewing a used car, print off and take along if required :smilie_re: General Car Checks Further to this, below is a list of members who would be happy to view a vehicle if approached by another club member, click on their user-names to send them a PM request: UK - England The South Hantsdave -Portsmouth, Havant, Petersfield and Chichester Houxboy - Poole and Wimborne MangoMan - Southampton, Fareham and Eastleigh Petetourer - Buckinghamshire and Berkshire... Possibly others Redfive - Weymouth Dorchester area Reebs - Southampton thomas 75 connie - Plymouth to Brixham The South East Sonestarick - Folkstone Kent The South West arnosvale65 - Bristol Barry Emmens - Wiltshire Dorset Bob - North Dorset operamagorum - 50 mile radius of Blandford Forum, North Dorset DragonFly - Bristol area Ratty - parts of Devon & Cornwall Windslore - West Dorset/ Devon region Flying Banana - Saltash & Cornwall Fadows - South West Cornwall The Midlands 1gp - Derby and Notts area Bernard LPG - borders of Worcesterhire, Warwickshire and Gloucestershire Buccaneer - West Berkshire and South Oxfordshire Colbo68 - the Midlands Coolguy - north Northamptonshire Jezzer 1 - Warwickshire / West Midlands john493 - North Oxfordshire / South Warks Kiltman - Stoke, Staffordshire, Crewe,South Manchester Mark2000cc - Sutton in Ashfield, Mansfield, Mansfield Woodhouse, Skegby, Kirkby in Ashfield, Oak Tree, Edwinstowe (all in the Nottinghamshire area) but not all of Nottinghamshire philm - herefordshire/gloucestershire/worcestershire spawn666 - Peterborough area trebor - Walsall & Wolverhampton Trophy Blue Tourer - Bletchley/Milton Keynes victorgte - Gloucestershire/Worcestershire (South) The East championdaddy - Letchworth North Herts Drewski - East Anglia guru - Norwich and surrounding areas trikey - Bungay - Norfolk Yorkshire Canonite - West Yorkshire Monty1 - Middlesbrough rrobson - West Yorkshire sikelsh - South Yorkshire Area stocktake - Leeds The North West Frank Incensed - Manchester jonathan63 - South Cumbria & Furness Ken Lion - Radcliffe near Bury, North Manchester prezz1 - Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria The North East bazza004 - 20 mile radius of Newton Aycliffe Co. Durham bobred9 - Northumberland suzublu - Hartlepool & North East Northern Ireland andymc - mid & north Antrim/east Derry area Colin_NI - Northern Ireland (General Antrim area, but will help out elsewhere!) Eire trojan - Midlands area, Eire Scotland allan t -Aberdeen area Captain Leisure - Aberdeen, South Aberdeenshire/Kincardineshire and maybe a bit further Ennine - Portmahomack & Inverness FrazzleTC - Dumfries and Galloway GRAHAM1961 - Edinburgh and the Lothians Les4048 - Elgin, Moray and surrounding area Ravinder - Fife, Perthshire, Lothians and Glasgow Rover 75 Tourer - South West of Glasgow Terrorfex - Perthshire / Tayside area Wales dabber5411 - Cardiff spider13 - Newport, Gwent (SE Wales) International - joel antonio - Segovia & Central Spain Disclaimer: The members listed on this thread will view cars in their local area on behalf of fellow club members entirely in good faith, and AT THE PURCHASER'S OWN RISK, no liability can be attributed to the person who viewed the car, or to the Club, if they do not discover any potential fault at the time of viewing, which may arise after purchase. All purchases are made at buyer's own risk, the viewer can only give their honest opinion and their comments should reflect the true status of the vehicle as seen. |
I would support this. I know only too well what its like to travel hundreds of miles to view something and it be a total waste of my time and fuel costs.
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Perhaps it might be an idea for all those willing to look at a vehicle on another members behalf to put their name on a list with where they live and the list be made sticky.
Regards Paul |
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Additionally members could, if requested by the would be buyer, take a glance at the car's documentation so that there aren't any nasty surprises waiting later down the line ;)
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Certainly wish I'd done this with mine.
I turned up to view mine, having bought a one way train ticket from Bradford to Birmingham, on my son's birthday. It did influence my decision to buy. If the car had been closer to home I am certain I would have walked away and not bought it. |
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An excellent idea that I'm sure will catch on. Whilst not mechanically minded I would gladly go to have a look at any vehicle close-ish on behalf of a member and would definitely ask around if I was the prospective buyer. When I decided on a 75 Tourer the one I got was the 8th I had looked at. SWMBO accompanied me on each trip. The trips back were not as nice as the ones there each time!!! I did over 750 miles before finding the one I wanted :D |
A very good idea and should prove helpful, but i was afraid of missing mine and drove the 200+ miles to Sittingbourne to view and then leave a deposit, having seen the dealers pictures on the net.I then collected a few days later via a one way £32 train journey.
I do agree though that a lot of time and money can be wasted viewing cars that are not as they first seem in the ad/pics. |
Defin a Good Idea...
Altho' I did ask this a few weeks back for a potential buy and got not a single reply ?? :shrug: |
A suggestion to help when buying a car some distance away.
I think this is a very good idea..and i would be willing to do this for anyone.
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Yeah this sounds a good idea!
Would certainly do it for anyone that needed a car looking at Near Lanarkshire Scotland. Anyone in bristol, that could look at a ZT-T? :o Stephen |
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only to see as I pulled up a dent in the bumper knew right away I would not be buying it, but looked it over. to find it needed a new engine banging from bottem end. new wing and bumper and the inside need a good clean. would be happy to look over any car near me (Hertfordshire) for a member |
I travelled 150 miles to buy mine and upon my request the guy sent me loads close up photos of paintwork, under bonnet, under boot, interior, dash, controls, wheels & tyres + he also sent me photos of all documentation including V5, current and previous MOT's, service book including every single stamp. I also asked for copy of HPI clear document which he took photo of and emailed.
Didn't start to discuss price until i got all those. So there quite a bit of spade work you can do before you travel a long way to take a look It might seem like you're causing a lot a trouble, but you're spending lot of money and if they cant/wont be bothered I'd leave it |
I'm able to help worcestershire area. Live in Redditch.
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...cd7cd80d3f.jpg |
I think this is already being done by the members, in fact some people, one of whom was 3discos I think, not only checked a car out but got it back on the road again.. I seem to recall it was a gift car?
And I remember Scribbler checked a car out for someone not long ago? :shrug: And when I was car hunting I had lots of very nice offers regarding looking at cars for me mainly from the Yorkie lads. :D. ... |
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That's the real strength of this place, people genuinely wanting to help each other out. |
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I just bought a car in Derby and that took two visits so if I had known the club had a list of 'helper checkers' I'd have consulted it first and it might have saved £100 and a working day. (As it was the car was worth it, happily :D ) Cheers Gary |
Been there, done that!!:D:D:D:D:D
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...highlight=ives And if anybody else needs help, just ask. As you will see from the thread, I give them a good going over (the cars that is!) ;);) And Andy bought the car as well!!:D:D |
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Oh, and just in case anyone who has already replied to this thread is wondering why their name isn't on the list, I've only actually included those members who have actually stated they would be willing to view a car for another. Again, I can easily update the list if need be. I won't make it a sticky for the time being, lets see how big the list gets, then we can review it. There is always a danger that with too many threads being stuck, it takes members forever to scroll down to a fresh subject. |
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Now my request! I am considering a car in Sutton in Ashfield, Notts, which looks good, even if a bit overpriced. If anyone can take a look I would be grateful. |
excellent idea,add me to the list
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Cracking idea had viewed a tourer some 120 miles away bloke sounded very good a undertaker and a car and bike collector and a freemason, it was a total waste of time.
This is a great idea and as said folks would need to know what the stipulations are for availability to view. As a lot of us im sure are not that sure of exactly what we are looking to check mechanically. A how to and what to check guide would be advantageous. A check list that can be printed off would ensure nothing was missed. Especially something like the lists you get when your car goes in for repair or you get a curtesy car you know the ones where its marked for what chips and scratches etc are on the body that would be good. |
A bit like this excellent How-To by rrobson
General Car Checks ;) Now also added to the first post in the thread :) |
So, how would this work?
Only I could be looking for a knowledgeable person to view a car (from a private seller) near junction 25 of the M25. Thanks. |
I would love to help out as there are loads of 75s on the island but they are so overpriced no one would want them anyway ie a club se y plate 1.8 80,000 miles £2795.
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I'd send :smilie_re: Kevin who's in Hertfordshire a PM. ;) |
Will gladly help on this in the South Yorkshire Area.
I couldnt offer a true mechanical breakdown of a car, but could follow the list and report back. |
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Well done that man, I've added you to the list in Post #1 Simon :bowdown: |
I very much appreciated Larry's (Loz1971) assistance when I found a 75 CDT on sale in St Ives, Cornwall. It was nearly 300 miles away and too far to travel based just on the seller's description.
Larry's feedback was invaluable. I'd asked just for his assesment of the external condition but he posted a very detailed report, based on his mechanical expertise. It gave me enough confidence to travel to view a car that otherwise I would have discarded from my radar. It's now in my garage and I'm very happy with it!! |
OK, I don't have much spare time, but please add me to the list. Must admit I am a fair to middling DIY mechanic, but a terrible inpector of my own intended car purchases - I tend to be blinded by the thoughts of a new toy.
Another suggestion I could make is that we could perhaps offer to accompany a prospective owner to assist with the inspection. I like to always take someone along with a level head, to at least distract the seller. |
You can add me too as I have already done this for members, SE Essex I could cover:} Dave
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Stick me name down if others not available ok. same as above done this for other members already alway willing to help.....
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:) Thanks Jamesuk sir, yes I viewed a 75 at Wareham for Steve whom was impressed with the vehicle, (as indeed was I) he then drove down and purchased said car. *He offered `expenses' which I refused, suggesting instead he put A £10 donation in the RNLI charity box. This he did.
Please add my name to the list of those willing to view for members. :} Mike. |
An excellent initiative. I just helped some people here in NZ in the same way. They ended up getting a 2005 Conn SE in fab condition, with only 31,000 kms on the clock (19,000 miles) for the equivalent of 5,500 pounds. Not sure how that compares with the same model over there, but for here that's a pretty good buy. Made me envious!
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need a professional in the yeovil, somerset area?
need a pro to look at a potential purchase for me - anyone know someone (hopefully with a T4)! in that area?
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Having dragged Mrs Incensed up and down the M6 several times until we found one we both approved of, I know what it's like. And that was relatively easy. I didn't have a car on the road on any of the other occasions I've bought a vehicle. (I didn't mean I'd dragged Mrs Incensed up and down the M6 without a car - she's much too difficult to drag by hand) |
Please add me to the list. (Somerset).
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Great idea.
Pop me down as well, I can do around Basingstoke / Reading / Maidenhead. |
I am willing to do Cambridgeshire and could pick anyone up from Ely train station if they want to see a car
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you've all been added to the main list in post #1 :smilie_re: Here |
I'm happy to do Wiltshire, I live in north Wilts and work in south Wilts so count me in, and i'm on my 3rd car with a K serise so can spot a bad one a mile off!
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Hi Paul, although not very well versed in Rover 75's (but getting there) I'm quite very well mechanically minded and would also be more than willing to help, in the SOUTHAMPTON/FAREHAM/PORTSMOUTH/SALISBURY/ROMSEY area, if you are unavailable/busy.
Regards, Bill. |
i agree with others this is a good idea - you can add me too for the Walsall/Wolverhampton area
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Hopefully this is something that the RS's will be helping with going forward.
Watch this space, if those interested could drop their appropriate RS a PM that would be great. Best, Jake |
Goes without saying, add me please Paul :)
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And if anyone needs help in Warwickshire or West Midlands areas do count me in :) |
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I have already done this a while ago and would be happy to do so again. I am based in Glasgow and work in North Ayrshire so could cover a reasonable area of the West of Scotland. And I agree with Jake that an approach to the relevant RS may also be helpful as I could then ask a member I know of in other parts of the country (Scotland is a big place) if they can help:} Please add me to your list Thanks Derek |
Is it possible to make this a sticky ?
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add me to the list for the blackpool, thornton cleveleys, st annes and fleetwood area's
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Hi Paul, don,t mind doing Northeast.Cheers,Ronnie
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Happy to do what I can in this distant backwater Paul...;)
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Im based around Antrim area in Northern Ireland but im always willing to help people out with their cars, so proves the half dozen or so cars ive helped people purchase locally. Please add my name.
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Oh pop me on the list for Mid to North Essex and South Suffolk please Paul.
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An excellent idea and a good example of how the club is in growing in strength with the membership coming together and supporting each other as it expands. I bought S750 LJW, from afar, whilst I was in Nairobi, so could not actually see the car myself. Given the reputation of the previous owner and current registered keeper (Lewis), and the details 'as advertised', I had no need to ask any other forum member to 'check out the car for me' beforehand.
All in all, another incentive for becoming a paying member I believe :} that is if this is an offer from other members available only to other members? or is it available to non-members too? As we know, other motoring organisations will charge a 3 figure sum to carry out a pre-inspection check. Phil |
id be happy to do west yorkshire :)
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Lincolnshire / East Coast region... |
I would suggest that very detailed pics taken of any blemishes or anything that you may be unsure of.
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You can inlude me on this list.
I am roughly on the intersection of the borders of Worcesterhire, Warwickshire and Gloucestershire. |
This is really taking off :xmas-smiley-031:, so can I suggest it might be a good idea to have some sort of standardised, printable basic check list?
Nothing too technical or too involved, just basic easy checks from a list. |
there is one, on the first page :xmas-smiley-031:
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This is a brill idea and wish it had existed a few years ago when i was looking
would of saved me a wasted journey to Buckinghamshire:smiley: |
Just curious, does this list only apply to viewing Rovers/Mg's or other makes.
Obviously not as a replacement for our beloved Rovers but maybe a second car or one for our significant others. |
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I will look at just about anything in my area, but I will say I have more knowledge of Toyotas, Mercs & obviously Rover 75's. Cheers, Bill. |
Anymore volunteers for this worthwhile list (see Post 1) to assist our members in search of a "new" steed? ;)
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I would certainly go and see the car for anyone, using the list, taking pics and looking at documentation. I can only compare it to my car but would give honest oppinion for what its worth at the time, i am learning more daily using this site so will never be an expert but will have great knowledge. Count me in on the list.
Sussex West and East, Chichester maybe a bit further and go up as far as say Gatwick area. Happy to help |
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Merseyside
If i can help, am willing to give any potential purchase the once over.
not too sure about posting up photos but im sure i can learn! |
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Hi, I would be glad to assist any member in having a look at any 75/zt's in the leeds and surrounding areas of west Yorkshire.
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hi guys, ive found a zt 1.8t at Croft Trade Centre in blackburn road, Darwen off te M65 Junction 4, just wanted to know if there is anyone near who could possibly go and have a good look round it to see if its worth me making the nearly 400 mile round trip. thanks regards Terry, (Tezzer):bowdown::shrug:
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See post #1 and click on the member(s) the nearest to the location of the car and PM him (the link is the member's name) :D |
Sorry if anyone has mentioned this below, but in line with this maybe information on the garage / dealer selling could be quite useful. Obviously via a private pm rather than a libelous for all to see post. I say this as I bought my car from a used car dealer near Bristol; the dealer went from doing a full service to just an oil change to nothing at all 'becase it didn't need it'. I also was slightly (to be polite) mislead as again we went from the car sailing through its MOT to requiring one new tyre to two new tyres. Three months later I have had to get all tyres replaced, plus new brake pads and brake discs. As I live in Glasgow I can't excactly nip down the M6 etc to complain. I may have been genuinely unlucky or he may have a reputation for this sort of thing, I don't know. My point anyway is, especially living so far away, if I had known of any dodgy past I would have maybe been more careful with any re-assuring utterances. Or I should have just lied and said I was from Bath but that's another story.
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I would gladly go and look at a Car for someone, i bought mine in Castleford and i was lucky that my brother in law only lived a few miles away.
So i know how helpful this idea is. |
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this is a great idea!
why don't more forums do this? anyway, I'm very happy to participate England - Shropshire I guess I can do Telford, Wolverhampton, Shrewsbury if need be or obviously anywhere in this sort of area |
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Well I'd be willing to go and have a look, take pics and e-mail them to anyone if it helps.
I'm in Leeds so anywhere in the area please let me know and I'll do my best to help out. Graham |
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I'm happy to help in Bolton, Wigan & surrounding areas.
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Well I've just joined and I don't know much about 75s/ZTs but I do know my way around 2nd hand cars so I'm happy to oblige.
I can cover Aberdeen, South Aberdeenshire/Kincardineshire and maybe a bit further if needed. Not too many cars come up for sale up here and I'm sure not too many folk will come up here to buy them but you never know..... A HUUUUGE thank you to Jezza1 for his excellent and comprehensive inspection of my new ZT-T and big thanks to the other members who were willing to go and check out other cars for me. Much appreciated. :bowdown: |
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Did you buy it then :drool4:. |
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Lancashire
Happy to help in and around Lancs if I can?
pm me for telephone number? best regards |
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Was just wondering, after 5 pages and nearly 100 posts, has anyone taken advantage of this yet?
Curious is all........ |
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Not in any order except country though ... WIP ;) |
My time is fairly limited however I'd be happy to help in Norfolk or north Suffolk
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Everyone's time is limited, but the volunteers on this thread are appreciated for offering their time and fuel to help out other members :D It all adds up to what this Club is about - the cars :) |
Stick me down as well in the Suffolk area(ish).
Having carried out a viewing for a member on the MGOC site re an LE MG Roadster which they travelled down from the Isle of Lewis to the West Mids to view and buy, it can actually be quite rewarding. |
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I would be happy to help out with this also!!;)
Say around 15 mile radius from Bletchley/Milton Keynes If you want to add me to the list?? Andy |
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Great Idea - Count me in.
I am in the north of Scotland, and can cover Inverness area. |
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I'd be more than happy to take a look at any 75s or ZTs in Dumfries and Galloway for people.
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If Harry or stocktake are too busy to look over a car in the Leeds area,I will try my best to be available.
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I would be pleased to assist - could cover Herefordshire and surrounds.
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Surprised there's no one on the list in the Newcastle area when there's loads of us.
Put me down. This would have been very helpful when I bought mine from 150mls away. Had to take a chance, the car still has issues which I'm dealing with one by one (nothing too major) but loads of things became apparent after buying it, which were not identified in the ad. It would have been extremely helpful if someone had given it the once over before buying it. Still love it though and it gives me something to do. It would be boring if it was perfect, wouldn't it? |
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Thanks guys, you have been added to the list :D:bowdown: |
I'm willing to look at any 75s or ZTs in East Anglia, wherever possible - and any bikes for that matter.
Drew. |
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You can add me to the list if you want :D
Could do some of the areas of as Buckinghamshire and Berkshire... Possibly others.... |
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Hi.
Can you please edit mine to only read; "Southampton, Fareham and Eastleigh" please. Thanks. |
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See also my sig:D |
I am more than happy to help out. Anywhere in the Greater Manchester area.
I am also a time served mechanic and still work in the motor trade. |
I can thoroughly and wholeheartedly recommend this service having availed myself of it recently, and thus purcheased a car in Liverpool :}:)
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hay am in manchester so ill diffo go to have a look within my area take a look, maybe some pics of car and diffo look at paper work if it helps put me down pleaseeeeeee just pm with info
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Stick me down for Doncaster, Yorkshire.
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good idea i have often found cars that are a distance away
happy to check in my local area |
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This thread is for those offering their services, and to provide a collated listing of members who are offering their services FOC.. If there is no member in the area that you require listed, then I would suggest that you post to the General Forum, for better coverage and speedier response :xmas-smiley-004: Posting a requirement in here will elicit very little response due to the nature of the thread. :xmas-smiley-014::xmas-smiley-004: |
Happy do cover Durham & North Lincolnshire if anyone needs it!
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I've just responded to your PM, but I've just noticed that in another thread you've posted that you've already bought a car. I really don't mind doing this if someone is serious and I can fit it in. And I certainly don't want any payment for doing it, but I don't want to go on a wild goose chase either. Please explain. Regards Robert |
I'll be happy to check out a car for anyone in the west/south yorkshire area between Leeds and Sheffield, while i'm no mechanic I do know these cars and can provide top notch photos :)
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I can offer to provide help in the Perthshire / Tayside area, Scotland.
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List updated. Thank you guys for offering this free service to our members :D
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A general request here does not really work.:( Look at the list in post #1 and click on the user name that covers the area where you want someone to look at the car you are interested in. Check out post # 1.;)
The link/name will take you to the PM for that member. And so PM him. ;) Any dialogue thereafter is by PMs..... Not in this forum. ;) This is a FREE service provided by the members who have volunteered to do this to help out the members in acquiring the car of their dreams ;) Please do not use this service frivolously :} |
Please add me to the list, can do Stoke, Staffordshire, Crewe,South Manchester.
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Any more volunteers? :shrug:
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...86&postcount=1 There have been a few requests lately for areas not yet covered ;) :} |
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I would be happy to look over any cars Stourbridge, Brierley Hill, Dudley area postcode DY5.
Trained as a mechanic for the 1st five years of my working life and have looked after my baby well. |
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Looks nice in red :cool: |
Another for the South, i'm happy to view anything Weymouth Dorchester area..
Cheers Ian |
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You can add me for South Lincs and North Cambs if you want! :)
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May I remind members, please to read the first post. This thread is for volunteers who offer their services to look at cars on behalf of other members. If you are looking for a member to look at a car of interest to you, then PM the member listed by clicking on the link and send your request.
This is not a request to view thread.:( If you cannot find a member in your area, then please post a request in the General Forum which will ellicit a faster response... hopefully :D Check the "volunteer's" forum history to see whether they are still active before you PM the member. This may assist you ..... Thank you.;) (Errant posts have been moved to their individual threads or removed as being off topic) |
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One other thought - it may be that if certain models are sought after and members are after them, if those who know the cars see one for sale, perhaps alert others to it? One of my thoughts are the monogram paint project cars - chromactive etc. - which are fairly rare, and perhaps even V8s and so on....? Cheers, Alex.:} |
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Well we do have a Wanted Section for members to post up their wants, and cars are included..... ;) |
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