I have a serious problem with the NHS.
 

I'm in a sticky situation right now with my local Hospital, it's Wigan Royal Albert Edward Infirmary. I can't say too much tonight but I need to get a record of my concerns before tomorrow as I'm likely to be arrested for my conduct in the morning. I'm not about to hurt anyone but there's something I need to do that will put me at odds with the Hospital and they'll call the Police.

My dad is in there and being forced to die....

Record everything Mike, you can then look back and take notes shoud you have to.

Take care mate

Flipping heck Mike, hope everything works out ok. Just stay safe

Take care and good luck.

A friends daughter had a baby last year and she was told that it was unlikely to last the night due to a couple of problems. She was told that it would be best to '' let nature takes it course''. The following morning she was still alive and they started to intervene, she is now 15 months old an happy. She will need some minor opps as she grows up but is expected to live a proper life.

A full investigation was carried out and the midwife was disciplined but nothing more.

You will know what you have to do Mike.Just do whatever is necessary,he's your dad.

I don't know the situation with your dad Mike but time stands still for no one. We know what is coming to us all one day yet it still shocks and causes mental turmoil when the medics take you to one side and quietly explain what you've been dreading about a loved one who is in their care in hospital. It can't be easy for the medics even though they will have to deal with these situations on a very regular if not a daily basis. I trust them and feel that they will have done their best for your dad. If it is the case that they are now talking end-of-life care they will want to continue to do their best for your dad for his remaining time. Please consider that he might be in the right place for this if it is so. They have the staff, the equipment and the medicine to make you dad as comfortable as possible - pressure pads/mattress, pain relief turning him in bed etc.. :grouphug:

Everybody lauds the NHS - I don't. The number of mistakes, wrong diagnoses and sheer incompetence I have come across is staggering. I literally had to KIDNAP my mother to get her out of their clutches some years ago. She couldn't pass her mobility assessment, but it was affecting her health in other ways being in hospital (5 months over a Christmas). I waited for the inevitable move of wards, marched in and said "I have come to collect my mother" which I did before her notes had followed her. She lived happily at home for a further 6 years, dying in her bed just short of her 99th Birthday. I do understand your frustration, but please do not get arrested over this - that will help neither you or your father. My thoughts are with you.

I was also upset at the hospital in York.
My Aunty was in there for a routine biopsy to see what a growth was. On the notes it said 'Do not resuscitate'. I posted about this last year and somebody commented that's what they do now.
I was always under the impression they would do anything to try and save you, guess not.
My mate is in there now having had an abscess removed, he said he cannot wait to get home as the standards have nose dived since he was last in.
I know overall the NHS do a great job but I guess there is just too many people in the UK now and not enough staff.

I have a certain sympathy Michael. I don't entirely share the current adulation of the organisation, but I'm sure it varies from place to place. There have been four members of my direct family who worked in the service so have perhaps a closer view than some that can see no wrong. Especially in the case of my dear wife (which obviously I won't go into).

That has been resolved by going into the private sector, not only for a realistic diagnosis, but also together with the unavoidable surgery as a result. Just in time.

Don't do anything daft, focus on the several ways you can get a satisfactory resolution before taking serious measures. Be careful about removal of a patient by force - that loses the high ground you have already. Ask, nay demand, to see all the notes and get copies. If you meet with refusal mention Subject Request (already mentioned) and sit tight. Above all, I know it's difficult, try not to raise your voice as that will only result in Security being called. Best wishes.