Bad Example B.S.M. Driver.
 

Whilst driving up the M1 on Saturday afternoon to MG Saloon Day in Staffordshire I overtook a BSM driving instructor in his Fiat 500. He was in the inside lane & I was in lane 2. My wife said hey look at him talking on his mobile phone :mad:

A short while later he flew past me in excess of the speed limit & still on his phone. I couldn't catch him up to get his number!!:(

I'd like to be surprised but sadly I'm not, seen some awful driving from driving instructors when on their own - think the worst 2 are, reversing round a roundabout and wrong way up a one way street

Are Fiat 500's that fast? :} I dare not think that the converse is true :( ;) :getmecoat:

Driving instructors in my area, in the driving seat, are some of the worst drivers!! I think that they are trained to adopt the policy of... "Do as I say, not what I do" :(

I live on a test route and regularly see pupils being taught to reverse round corners and do three point turns in places that I would consider too dangerous or too likely to seriously inconvenience another driver. But then I still believe the safest way to remain stationary is in neutral with the handbrake on, so what do I know? If you're awake and watching what's happening it doesn't delay moving off.

no wonder there are so many bad drivers on the roads if the instuctors are driving that way ..all the rear ends smashes are due to being taught to drive by breaking late and not using the gears to take a bit of speed off the car when approaching traffic lights crossings and jjuntions

I beg to differ with you Pupils are not taught to "Brake late"and the reason pupils are not taught to use the gears to slow down is because modern cars do have more efficient brakes and therefore work better.Early cars brakes were not as good and required "assistance" from the gear box to help slow down the car. And for you to say the reason that there are so many bad drivers around and rear end smashes because they are taught in the way you describe is a very cavalier attiude.Pupils are taught the art of anticipation and try to forsee what is going to happen in front of them.

I do not excuse the alleged offence of the BSM instructor using his phone while driving but what speed was the OP doing to "trying to catch" the Fiat 500.Its not always "Driving Instructors" who drive badly You should wittness some of the outrageous manouvers other drivers (and I use the term loosley) to get infront of a learner pupil

Number 6 ADI (retired) :mad:

Are you certain that it was an Approved Driving Instructor and not a mechanic on a test drive after a service or some other reason???????:shrug:

Have to beg to differ too.. Since I only learnt to drive, what 13 years ago, there was nothing more harrowing as a new driver than being behind an "older driver" who insisted on slowing down with the gears.. The brake lights give you an indication that the person in front is slowing down for whatever reason. It's so easy to miss a gradual decrease in speed by the car in front without that indication for a new driver, as your perception and experience just isn't there yet.. I had a couple of near misses, and I suspect a lot of mature drivers who are rear ended by new drivers wouldn't have had their brake light illuminated if a full crash inspection was performed..

I use gear braking just so I can be in the right gear for any given speed.
It's also more fuel efficient ;)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! If you look ahead and "anticipate" what is going on ahead you should always be in the right gear and at the right speed:shrug:

When I took my test (1955) the examiner had to look for the driver being in the right gear at the right time. This was also a mention in the Police manual. - In those times there were still a lot of cars around without brake lights.
There's nothing more annoying than following somebody who brakes at every bump in the road, or who sees a Speed Camera ahead, especially at night!
Barnowlnoddy.

Driving while using a Mobile Phone is still a growing problem, only yesterday I was behind a woman driving an Audi TT and she was blabbing on her phone, her braking was late constantly as her mind was on the phone more than the road, her driving line was horrendous too, on 3 occasions she crossed the white lines for no reason other than she wasn't paying attention. She then got in the wrong lane at the traffic lights and would have cut me up if I had not been holding back as a matter of caution.

It's time to toughen up the Fine and Points for using a Mobile whilst driving, even more so, you should have your phone confiscated until you pay the fine. Maybe that will stop them from doing it.

Oh and no, I don't use my Mobile whilst driving, I call them back, while I am still alive or not arrested for dangerous driving after causing an accident, at the end of my Journey :p:

Also wears out your clutch much faster and with the R75 this is something you DON'T want.
Gears are for 'going' and brakes are for 'stopping'

THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE DESIGNED for. :p::p::p:

You do know, don't you, that you can be in the right gear for any given speed without using your gears as brakes ??? :cool::cool::cool:

I agree - Driving Instructors are the worst drivers. I regularly come across; one....... at all times is engaged reading whilst his pupil is careering all over the highway. Changing lanes without any prior indication etc. etc. BSM is the name on the car!
Bad Start Motorist should be on the leaners licence.

Yes, one should be in the right gear at all times - but being so will not increase wear on any clutch. The clutch should already be engaged to allow such de-acceleration to cause braking effort in the gear chosen. Slipping the clutch is the cause of most wear problems.Try driving an Auto, and this will change down repeatedly, which should illustrate this effect; without the disaster?

The wear I was talking about was wear to the Slave Cylinder which tends to be the first item to fail with heavy use. ( unfortunately this means the gearbox off and cost lots of money.)---:shocked:

In fact to keep wear off this item I tend to use first ,third and fifth gears on the move, on fairly flat roads.------------:snowball:

That's what I call a considered response - 6 years and 28 days of considering! :D

Aurora MG - Andrew Stevens convicted on 10 March 2017 of raping a child aged 13 and other sex offences against children. A name I thought I would never see on the forum ever again. With so many other threads to discuss on the forum, can a mod please close the thread.