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Arctic 6th July 2012 01:12

Sunroof Drains Tube Leak Solved
 
Well after days and days of rain we finaly got some dry sunny weather today 5/7/12 so i set about with vigour tackling the leak on my sunroof drainage tubes which if left unchecked will sooner or later leave you with water in your footwells front and rear, because i got caught out with all this rain and did not check mine in time i have ended up with a sodden carpet which i now have to remove to dry out i am hoping this post will save some of you that trouble and you can catch it before its to late, those of you whom have not got a leak yet do this fix asap so you will not have to go to all the trouble of taking your seats and console out along with radio and A/C controls etc.
Below is the short version presuming you have not yet got any leak or its not to bad and you dont have to remove all of the above mentioned.
First you will need to remove the glove box this is held in by seven torx screws four along the top of the box and three hidden under the felt cover in the glove box one each end and one centre, Fig 1-4

Peel felt back to expose the three torx screws one in the centre also.
https://i.imgur.com/axqr2Xpl.jpg1

Remove these first all three.
https://i.imgur.com/cXI1NGrl.jpg2

Now remove the four top ones as here below.
https://i.imgur.com/YlHtXkBl.jpg3

Once removed the glove box will slide forward easy.
https://i.imgur.com/Q5ouWvul.jpg4

Slide the Glove box forward careful because of the box light which needs to be unpluged Fig 5-7
https://i.imgur.com/Q5ouWvul.jpg5

The light showing its plug.
https://i.imgur.com/If4xTXSl.jpg6

Unplug the wiring to the light as here
https://i.imgur.com/wYyFG4el.jpg7

You can now remove the glove box and put it in a safe place this will now expose the fuse box and all the wiring etc behind the box. Fig 8
https://i.imgur.com/TaZeZgVl.jpg8

Above and to the left you will see the sunroof drainage tube this is just pushed in by about 15mm then it hits a stop in the outlet rubber tube (Ducks Bill) going through to the wheel arch poor idea and not a tight fit, some sort of PTF tape was used to try and hold it :confused: Fig 9
https://i.imgur.com/Rerc76bl.jpg9

To make more room and easier access to this tube unbolt the fuse box 10mm socket and set it to one side out of the way as here below Fig 10-12
https://i.imgur.com/T8v5lC8l.jpg10

https://i.imgur.com/gXlJrsnl.jpg11

Rest the fuse holder on the glove box opening.
https://i.imgur.com/ElDqONll.jpg12

Now you can get a better look at the sunroof tube and the silly tape Rover used Fig 13-14
https://i.imgur.com/GgxSzqAl.jpg13

https://i.imgur.com/IiaYARul.jpg14
Here i have removed the tube to show the rubber tube outlet to the inner wheel arch through the bulk head note that dirty water and it smells. Fig 15-16
https://i.imgur.com/kgP5aJSl.jpg15

https://i.imgur.com/8lAHE4Ql.jpg16

Quick view of how thick the foam on the back of the carpet is in this area and its soaking wet. Fig 17
https://i.imgur.com/zv0No4il.jpg17

Here is a close up of the dirty muck cloging the outlet tube this needs to be cleaned out before the fix Fig 18
https://i.imgur.com/Mn6BkGJl.jpg18

here i am rodding the outlet tube with a 10mm pipe spring any larger and you risk pushing the tube through the bulk head and we dont want this Fig 19-20
https://i.imgur.com/aW5ObM4l.jpg19

The pipe spring can be passed through the front of the glove box compartment as here and lines up nicely with the outlet tube.
https://i.imgur.com/AyJYXHJl.jpg20

Right i had two idear's for the fix one to use a clear tube to extend the exsiting sunroof black tubing as here below, i have brought the tubing to the opening of the glove box to make it easy for you to see how the clear tubing would fit inside the black tubing Fig 21
https://i.imgur.com/7k2iGgxl.jpg21

This idea looked ok but gave me a little worry as the exsiting sunroof tube was on the outside of the clear tube even though a every tight fit it can still give rise to some leakage in my opinion, i may be wrong but was not going to take tha chance as water will always find the easy way out so i went to next idea which involves the hose connectors as here below in Fig 22
This time the sunroof tube is inside the hose connector and is also a very neat and tight fit pushed into the connector by 50mm making it a secure fitting which cannot slip out or be forced out by water back flowing.
https://i.imgur.com/k77ld2vl.jpg22

I can now offer this up to the outlet rubber tube which is pushed inside and again a tight fit i needed to smear it with vaseline to push fit the ridged pipe which is 30mm long you can hear the slight pop when pushed fully home to the lip inside the outlet tube Fig 23
https://i.imgur.com/7fyOC67l.jpg23

A close up of the secure fitting which in my opinion will stop and solve the leaks from now on and as the black sunroof tube is pushed inside the hose connector by 50mm the connector with its ridged fitting is pushed into the outlet tube by 30mm over all length is an 80mm not the 15mm push in Rover left with some sort of silly PTF tape to hold it in Fig 24
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https://i.imgur.com/fMky2Mnl.jpg24

https://i.imgur.com/z6LGZ9Cl.jpg25

The hose connector bought from Halfords Fig 26 Size needed is 5/8 =16mm
https://i.imgur.com/qzOx6EKl.jpg26

As stated at the start this is the quick way if you do not have a bad leak already or not one at all if your carpets are soaking wet like mine its seats out, console out, carpet out and dried clear all water in the floor area of the car make sure all wiring is ok and dry then you have to refit it all so try not to get caught out as i did i will start a new post following how i take the seats out etc cheers Arctic.

Ducks bill in the wheel arch
https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...118622&page=15

Scuttle sealing clips
https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...3&postcount=61

FLYING BANANA 6th July 2012 07:17

Very interesting. What about the one to the rear? Will have a go once it stops raining. Watching Steve916 fitting my compensators has given me the confidence to have a go at things myself.

Arctic 6th July 2012 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYING BANANA (Post 1047623)
Very interesting. What about the one to the rear? Will have a go once it stops raining. Watching Steve916 fitting my compensators has given me the confidence to have a go at things myself.

Hi Bob
its raining again here today as well very short lived that little bit of sunshine i will post more about the driver side and the two rear drain sunroof tubes and access as i get round to them over the next few days weather permiting yet again :( Arctic.

Arctic 6th July 2012 23:04

Well another day as passed with out getting nowt done i was hoping to fit the other three sun roof outlets hoping i can get them sorted tomorrow after i have fitted a members handbrake compensator just need another day like Thursday and then will be on road to recovery ;) Arctic.

Dominic22 6th July 2012 23:09

Fantastic Steve, when retro fitting Hi-line on the V8 noticed the drivers side carpet was a bit wet my suspicion being the sunroof drain, will be interested in seeing that side done, if it ever stops raining for you:}

Hope all is well with you Gail & Bruno

Dom

phenonix 6th July 2012 23:34

Great Write Up
never had a problem with leaks but must admit i didn't realise the drainage holes were there, will check mine to be sure

Arctic 6th July 2012 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic22 (Post 1048276)
Fantastic Steve, when retro fitting Hi-line on the V8 noticed the drivers side carpet was a bit wet my suspicion being the sunroof drain, will be interested in seeing that side done, if it ever stops raining for you:}

Hope all is well with you Gail & Bruno

Dom

Hi Dom
Yer all well except being a bit browned off with this weather :D hope you keeping well and fine hope to see you on 21st or 22nd ;) I am hoping to get round to the driver side sometime tomorrow should be the same except for a bit n more wiring in the way have heard i may have to take out the light switch to gain better access but as usual photo's will follow got a 3x3 meter gazibo erected in the back garden at the moment trying to combat all this grass growing liquid :D might hire one of those blow heater to dry out the carpet will have to wait and see if i could get hold of a dry one i would chnage it asap but being beige andd a tourer rare to find one, also check out the rear one in the boot Dom straight forward to get to cheers Arctic. :bowdown:

rover54 7th July 2012 01:53

Is there a drain on the driver's side and how do you get to the rear drains. Want to check mine.

Arctic 7th July 2012 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by rover54 (Post 1048322)
Is there a drain on the driver's side and how do you get to the rear drains. Want to check mine.

Hi Ed.
yes one on drivers side and two at the rear i am hoping to tackle the drivers side tomorrow if your car is a saloon the rear ones are easy to to find just pull back the side boot carpet and you will see the tube going into the rubber outlet either side over the rear wheel arch not as bad as the front ones as they are vertical but i would still had the hose connector, with the tourer there is a bit more work involved which again i will post up when i get round to them asap cheers Arctic.

ProfDave 7th July 2012 10:16

great stuff; one question as I am about to attack my potential leak; the bulk head fixing; does that just peak out the other side or is it another tube that runs down. Will dictate my rodding enthusiasm!

thanks;)


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