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Kearton 28th March 2024 10:06

Unequal Rear Suspension Settings?
 
(ZT-T)
I recently thought that my left-hand rear spring might have broken as the wheel seemed to be sitting closer to the wing than on the other side. The springs aren't that old, but one of them had had to be replaced after only 10,000 miles (a presumed manufacturing flaw), so I thought that the other side might now have gone.

I drove it to my garage cautiously to be checked. I was pleased when they reported that both springs were fine, and in fact in very good condition. The culprit had been low tyre pressures - way lower than I'd expected. (I hadn't used it much since Xmas, so the monthly checks had been missed.)

I asked about the apparent difference in wing clearance between left and right sides, which I didn't think could have been caused by low tyre pressures alone. They said that BMWs - with which they were more familiar - have their rear suspensions set slightly lower on one side to offset the weight of the driver, in order to improve handling. Since MGR used a variation of the BMW rear suspension, the garage thought that they might have done that too.

Has anyone else heard of this and/or know whether that is the case?

SD1too 28th March 2024 11:41

I'd check your shock absorbers if I were you.

Simon

bsafly 28th March 2024 12:11

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Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2992254)
I'd check your shock absorbers if I were you.

Simon

And the condition of your upper arms!

xsport 28th March 2024 13:36

and the spring thickness and lengths. I think the garage are playing silly billies !!

Kearton 28th March 2024 22:58

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Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2992254)
I'd check your shock absorbers if I were you.
Simon

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Originally Posted by bsafly (Post 2992257)
And the condition of your upper arms!

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Originally Posted by xsport (Post 2992261)
and the spring thickness and lengths. I think the garage are playing silly billies !!

Thanks all for the suggestions.

The shock absorbers were replaced about 15-20,000 miles ago, along with the upper suspension arms. The garage said that both these and the springs were in good condition.

Ride height is controlled primarlly by the springs, so i don't think it can be due to the shock absorbers. I didn't ask the garage whether they had checked the spring lengths, so that might be a possibility.

I think my next step will be to recheck the clearances with the car on level ground. My drive has a bit of a slope.

Has anyone heard of those differences being the norm on BMWs?

SD1too 29th March 2024 06:33

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Originally Posted by Kearton (Post 2992283)
Ride height is controlled primarlly by the springs, so i don't think it can be due to the shock absorbers.

Have you ever fitted shock absorbers yourself Kearton?

Simon

Kearton 29th March 2024 07:10

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Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2992292)
Have you ever fitted shock absorbers yourself Kearton?

Simon

Not on a car.
If you need to do, it I think it will be easier on the rear than the front as the springs are housed separately, so there is no need to remove them.

KWIL 29th March 2024 08:09

Springs should be replaced in pairs to ensure equal performance. Shocks do not set ride height.

SD1too 29th March 2024 09:12

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Originally Posted by KWIL (Post 2992315)
Shocks do not set ride height.

I see that you are a professional engineer Ken so can you help me with this please?

Whenever I fit a shock absorber I have to raise the car body very high, beyond spring-determined height, in order to insert them. When the body is subsequently lowered the spring partially compresses but so does the shock absorber. A point of equilibrium appears to be reached. Surely this would depend upon the ability of both the spring and the pressurised shock absorber to compress, wouldn't it?

If I removed my shock absorbers completely, would you say that the car's body height would be identical to that with the spring/shock absorber combination fitted?

I'd be grateful if you could explain where I am going wrong with this.

Simon

dave lincs 29th March 2024 12:32

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Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2992319)
I see that you are a professional engineer Ken so can you help me with this please?

Whenever I fit a shock absorber I have to raise the car body very high, beyond spring-determined height, in order to insert them. When the body is subsequently lowered the spring partially compresses but so does the shock absorber. A point of equilibrium appears to be reached. Surely this would depend upon the ability of both the spring and the pressurised shock absorber to compress, wouldn't it?

If I removed my shock absorbers completely, would you say that the car's body height would be identical to that with the spring/shock absorber combination fitted?

I'd be grateful if you could explain where I am going wrong with this.

Simon


I would think the answer is obvious but as the clubs technical advisor why don't you make it Simple Simon and remove your shock absorber and try it then you can let us all know


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