View Single Post
Old 20th March 2020, 21:54   #3
clf
This is my second home
 
clf's Avatar
 
MG ZT CDTi

Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: carrick
Posts: 7,859
Thanks: 3,494
Thanked 2,657 Times in 1,973 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MissMoppet View Post
Our local Sainsbury's yesterday it was apparently heaving from 7.00am with Over 70s fighting for The Last Toilet Roll.

Lunchtime we went to a fairly remote but till now popular pub. We had booked for six but four of our close friends withdrew. We were the only ones eating, with two at the bar.

Somerset has a population of 560,000 and we have 7 affected patients, none of whom are in the County's hospital. We think the pub was the safest place to be yet it has now closed and possibly may never re-open.

Shut the village pub and the heart is ripped out of our community.

Are we sure the country's tackling this in the right way?

Dave
I actually agree with the closure of places like pubs and restaurants, especially as the symptoms are not obvious sometimes for up to 14 days. The problem, like the supermarket issue, is crowds of people in close quarters. Masses of people panicking in supermarkets, doing what they are not supposed to do.

The pub etc is not a necessity (unfortunately lol), those who gathered defying sensible advice of avoiding crowded places have caused this. A bit of common sense was needed. If people went about their 'normal' shopping habits, the shelves would continue to be restocked, there would be 'normal' amounts of people in the shops. If you were not well, you would not go out anyway, however if you needed to get something when you were not well, and didnt have the ability to do it yourself, you could get a delivery, you most likely could have asked for help from someone - just as you would do, if you had the flu, gastroenteritis etc.

If you had the flu, gastro etc, you would avoid contact with people as a matter of course, you would likely not feel like doing certain things anyway, but you would have been considerate of those who were vulnerable. When my parents were being treated for cancer, I had a cold, once was quite severe. But I would not have visited them in hospital at the time, as not only them, but their fellow patients would have been susceptible to my cold, and that could easily have developed with their suppressed immune system to pneumonia.

I didn t feel like going out at that time anyway, but I could have, I could have gone out to a pub, met with friends, passed on my cold to them, who then passed it to their granny who had just been released from hospital after recovering from TB.

It is not about you. It is about those who cannot deal with it. You if you are healthy will likely only feel like a heavy cold. But do you know who you pass it to? Then the people you passed it to, have had to go into hospital. Say three people become infected, that is three more people in the hospital. Two survived, one died, but before they went in, those three passed it to three more each, who needed hospital treatment. Now nine more people are in hospital. The first one is in the morgue, the second and third are recovering in the ward, the next nine people are all being treated in the ICU. The ICU now does not have adequate facilities to treat the man who was due to have a bypass operation tomorrow. The man who finally reached the top of the lung transplant list, does not have an ICU bed, never mind a respirator to help him recover after the operation ........................ and it goes on.

It is not even just about the suffering to the individual, but also the support network we have, that is already at breaking point, the NHS.

I still blame social media for spreading stupid. We didnt have to get to this point of panic and empty shelves.
__________________


It is not gloss primer .............. it is duct tape silver!
clf is offline   Reply With Quote