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Old 21st March 2021, 16:58   #4
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Originally Posted by macafee2 View Post
ok that makes sense, wtf the BT naughty word could not have explained it in that sort of way. I now feel ripped off, I paid once and now need to pay again. I would have thought paying at the outset the check would be done to make sure I am entitled to record.
I will have to see if there is anything in the terms and conditions but I will probably find them so hard to read I'll give up.

Appreciate an explanation I can understand. Thank you

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you do have the 'right' to record, but only for personal use, and record only using BT's software. BT will have paid royalties to the original program makers/broadcasters, and they will transfer some of those albeit limited rights based upon what their (BT) rights and conditions were.

These no doubt would have had some kind of proviso that the end user (you) could not easily download (record), to keep, or distribute elsewhere. This is where the software (MPEG4BT) would come in.

BT (sky etc) own the rights to the software the programs play on, Universal (or BBC etc) own the copyright to the film/program, and you own the right to use the equipment whilst you pay for that use. It would be unreasonable to expect the end user to store a film to watch a long time later - I would suggest a month would be a reasonable amount of time.

I am sure you could obtain a program (they are called codecs, and or containers, but to keep it straightforward, call it a program) to play it, or a converter to play it. Then you could remove the hard drive from the YouView box and plug it into a computer. I have done this with a Sky box, and could see the programs that were recorded, but nothing would play them. I never looked into it though.

By doing it this way, it gives the supplier (BT, Sky etc) the ability to control the content and satisfy the original copyright holders. Also a little leverage for them to 'hold' onto you as a customer.

Incidentally, once you stop paying Sky (and TalkTalk) for their service, whilst you can watch basic service, you can no longer record.
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